DEI Hiring

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infinity ag
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They are so open and brazen about it. No wonder Ubisoft has gone down the drain.

They say "diverse" and show only women (and maybe LGBTZQSHKJETYUV)

How many women care about video games?

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AG
Diversity for the sake of diversity is a recipe for disaster.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
boy09
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AG
You stumbled across a 9 year old screenshot and thought this was worth sharing?
hedge
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I think this is more F16 material
Teslag
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boy09 said:

You stumbled across a 9 year old screenshot and thought this was worth sharing?


Care to address the context? Diversity is trash
hedge
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Teslag said:

boy09 said:

You stumbled across a 9 year old screenshot and thought this was worth sharing?


Care to address the context? Diversity is trash
forced diversity is trash. A diverse demographic with equivalent skills/knowledge I would think is better than everybody having the same background mentality
boy09
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Teslag said:

boy09 said:

You stumbled across a 9 year old screenshot and thought this was worth sharing?


Care to address the context? Diversity is trash
No.

You're gonna lose your mind when you find out how many women work at Ubisoft today.
Ragnar Danneskjoldd
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infinity ag said:

They are so open and brazen about it. No wonder Ubisoft has gone down the drain.

They say "diverse" and show only women (and maybe LGBTZQSHKJETYUV)

How many women care about video games?


remember when boeing tweeted about their all-female engineering team and their planes started crashing and now elon musk has to rescue astronauts?
infinity ag
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Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:

infinity ag said:

They are so open and brazen about it. No wonder Ubisoft has gone down the drain.

They say "diverse" and show only women (and maybe LGBTZQSHKJETYUV)

How many women care about video games?


remember when boeing tweeted about their all-female engineering team and their planes started crashing and now elon musk has to rescue astronauts?

I think I missed that tweet. If you have access, please post.
GarlandAg2012
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boy09 said:

You stumbled across a 9 year old screenshot and thought this was worth sharing?
He is obsessed with feeling like a victim. Just check his post history.
Teslag
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GarlandAg2012 said:

boy09 said:

You stumbled across a 9 year old screenshot and thought this was worth sharing?
He is obsessed with feeling like a victim. Just check his post history.


Nothing to be a victim about. I've got a great life that I achieved. Didn't need to whine about being held down.
Teslag
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hedge said:

Teslag said:

boy09 said:

You stumbled across a 9 year old screenshot and thought this was worth sharing?


Care to address the context? Diversity is trash
forced diversity is trash. A diverse demographic with equivalent skills/knowledge I would think is better than everybody having the same background mentality


Only merit, talent, and ability matters.
Teslag
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boy09 said:

Teslag said:

boy09 said:

You stumbled across a 9 year old screenshot and thought this was worth sharing?


Care to address the context? Diversity is trash
No.

You're gonna lose your mind when you find out how many women work at Ubisoft today.


Looking at the trash they've developed in the last 5 years that wouldn't blow my mind at all. In fact, I'd completely expect it.
hedge
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Teslag said:

hedge said:

Teslag said:

boy09 said:

You stumbled across a 9 year old screenshot and thought this was worth sharing?


Care to address the context? Diversity is trash
forced diversity is trash. A diverse demographic with equivalent skills/knowledge I would think is better than everybody having the same background mentality


Only merit, talent, and ability matters.


Correct but would you rather have a bunch of people with same background or from different backgrounds that can offer different perspectives (this is assuming everybody is a qualified candidate and has the same merit)
infinity ag
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The world needs a major course correction where only merit and qualifications matter. Not gender, LGBTQ status, age, color, race etc.

It is not PC to demand this. How will this ever happen? I don't know. Who will bell the cat?
infinity ag
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hedge said:

Teslag said:

hedge said:

Teslag said:

boy09 said:

You stumbled across a 9 year old screenshot and thought this was worth sharing?


Care to address the context? Diversity is trash
forced diversity is trash. A diverse demographic with equivalent skills/knowledge I would think is better than everybody having the same background mentality


Only merit, talent, and ability matters.


Correct but would you rather have a bunch of people with same background or from different backgrounds that can offer different perspectives (this is assuming everybody is a qualified candidate and has the same merit)

That is the key though. When you look for different perspectives, you almost always reduce standards to force that in. Your assumption above never happens in reality.
Also, in some cases, different perspectives just slows down execution. Diversity is not always a good thing. No one can prove why hiring people other than for merit helps. You ask these advocates, they will respond by shouting you down and calling you a hater.
hedge
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So if we had a hypothetical scenario where all the candidates were of same caliber but there were different races/ethnicities you think we should hire just the single dominant race?
Teslag
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hedge said:

Teslag said:

hedge said:

Teslag said:

boy09 said:

You stumbled across a 9 year old screenshot and thought this was worth sharing?


Care to address the context? Diversity is trash
forced diversity is trash. A diverse demographic with equivalent skills/knowledge I would think is better than everybody having the same background mentality


Only merit, talent, and ability matters.


Correct but would you rather have a bunch of people with same background or from different backgrounds that can offer different perspectives (this is assuming everybody is a qualified candidate and has the same merit)


Doesn't matter either way
infinity ag
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hedge said:

So if we had a hypothetical scenario where all the candidates were of same caliber but there were different races/ethnicities you think we should hire just the single dominant race?


I personally don't care about so called "diverse" people as I see no point of it. If selection is on merit, none of this matters. It is just for virtue signaling.
Teslag
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hedge said:

So if we had a hypothetical scenario where all the candidates were of same caliber but there were different races/ethnicities you think we should hire just the single dominant race?


If that were the scenario I'd be fine just drawing names from a hat
AtticusMatlock
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Since no one is posted the context, I'll try to explain it. Ubisoft is a major, major, major game developer.

They own some of the more lucrative IP in the game industry including the Tom Clancy games, Assassin's Creed, Far Cry, etc. They were one of the most respected brands in the industry.

Their last two major release games went full woke.

They decided to create a Star Wars game. The lead writer, who is a female, initially designed the game with a male lead in mind. Ubisoft Executives overruled them and told them they had to create a game with a character that is dark skinned female. Then they made her androgynous. This is an open world RPG where you go in explore and meet people similar to GTA or Skyrim. Instead of focusing on gameplay elements they chose to make it impossible for your character to steal, kill, or otherwise harm anyone but the designated bad guys. It basically takes a lot of the fun elements of this style game and neuters them. Most people would have overlooked the lead being a caricature but the game itself absolutely sucks and is not fun.

Their next release is worse. They created an Assassin's Creed set in feudal Japan. Guess who one of the main characters is? A black guy. That's right folks. They made a samurai, one of the most important figures in Japanese culture...black. And not just any samurai. He's portraying a real, historical Japanese person.

The Japanese outcry against this game is significant but Ubisoft has already invested tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars into developing this one and they can't go back and change it. They are announcing a 3-month delay to try to figure out how to fix the character. This game may end up bankrupting the company.

Their stock price is down to a decade low until Friday as buyout rumors surfaced.
Martin Q. Blank
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hedge said:

Teslag said:

hedge said:

Teslag said:

boy09 said:

You stumbled across a 9 year old screenshot and thought this was worth sharing?


Care to address the context? Diversity is trash
forced diversity is trash. A diverse demographic with equivalent skills/knowledge I would think is better than everybody having the same background mentality


Only merit, talent, and ability matters.


Correct but would you rather have a bunch of people with same background or from different backgrounds that can offer different perspectives (this is assuming everybody is a qualified candidate and has the same merit)
Look at Japan and the quality of their products.
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Nobody ever bothered to check if diversity by itself makes work output better. It was just assumed because the idea of it makes people feel better. Also, there are many many types of diversity, and some you can't superficially see. You can say maybe it is good to have some opportunity for diversity or some minimum level of it because it is a goal for other reasons but it doesn't inherently improve work quality, quantity, innovation, etc.
hedge
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Japan is very unique in their ability to be "western" and have very ethno centric race. The left will come after them sooner or later
infinity ag
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AtticusMatlock said:

Since no one is posted the context, I'll try to explain it. Ubisoft is a major, major, major game developer.

They own some of the more lucrative IP in the game industry including the Tom Clancy games, Assassin's Creed, Far Cry, etc. They were one of the most respected brands in the industry.

Their last two major release games went full woke.

They decided to create a Star Wars game. The lead writer, who is a female, initially designed the game with a male lead in mind. Ubisoft Executives overruled them and told them they had to create a game with a character that is dark skinned female. Then they made her androgynous. This is an open world RPG where you go in explore and meet people similar to GTA or Skyrim. Instead of focusing on gameplay elements they chose to make it impossible for your character to steal, kill, or otherwise harm anyone but the designated bad guys. It basically takes a lot of the fun elements of this style game and neuters them. Most people would have overlooked the lead being a caricature but the game itself absolutely sucks and is not fun.

Their next release is worse. They created an Assassin's Creed set in feudal Japan. Guess who one of the main characters is? A black guy. That's right folks. They made a samurai, one of the most important figures in Japanese culture...black. And not just any samurai. He's portraying a real, historical Japanese person.

The Japanese outcry against this game is significant but Ubisoft has already invested tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars into developing this one and they can't go back and change it. They are announcing a 3-month delay to try to figure out how to fix the character. This game may end up bankrupting the company.

Their stock price is down to a decade low until Friday as buyout rumors surfaced.


Thank you Atticus. That was very helpful even for me as the OP.
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hedge said:

Japan is very unique in their ability to be "western" and have very ethno centric race. The left will come after them sooner or later


Whether the left comes after them or not it shows that diversity isn't a strength. It's nothing. It's meaningless in the pursuit of quality product design and production.
hedge
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Again I don't think diversity for the sake of diversity is good. I'm simply saying a diverse pool of equally capable candidates isn't a bad thing
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infinity ag said:

They are so open and brazen about it. No wonder Ubisoft has gone down the drain.

They say "diverse" and show only women (and maybe LGBTZQSHKJETYUV)

How many women care about video games?


White folk. All I see is white folk. Ain't no diversity.
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hedge said:

Again I don't think diversity for the sake of diversity is good. I'm simply saying a diverse pool of equally capable candidates isn't a bad thing


So diversity for diversity sake
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Teslag said:

GarlandAg2012 said:

boy09 said:

You stumbled across a 9 year old screenshot and thought this was worth sharing?
He is obsessed with feeling like a victim. Just check his post history.

Nothing to be a victim about. I've got a great life that I achieved. Didn't need to whine about being held down.

Did you forget to login as infinity ag?
hedge
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No, outsiders can provide other perspectives. As long as everybody has the same qualifications etc… I don't mind it
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boy09 said:

You stumbled across a 9 year old screenshot and thought this was worth sharing?


Pretty sure it's resurfacing because there's a lot of talk about Ubisoft struggling and getting bought out. So, "Go woke, go broke."
infinity ag
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DEI will hopefully run its course. But then it may morph to something else.
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infinity ag said:

DEI will hopefully run its course. But then it may morph to something else.


Of course it will.

Liberals will always seek out things to be upset about.
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DEI is the first scape goat for underachieving old white men.
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