Okay I find it hilarious that "guy that throws his daughter ms participation trophy in the garbage" starts a thread asking if A&M will be ranked after this week.

I can't stand the rank nazis. What the hell does it matter, especially at this point, just freaking win.

maroon barchetta said:

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Now do the one about Hispanics.

Reggie was a treasure of quotes.

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Hispanics are gifted in family structure, you look at a Hispanic person and they can fit 20 or 30 people into their home

Low T society

Just a Victim of Circumstance!!

713nervy said:

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Sincere question for the OP -

To you, what's the difference between being a victim vs. working to improve the way that a minority population is being treated? Can you give me an example of what each thing sounds like to you?

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Better yet,

Give me an example of a minority population that has fewer rights and is actively being discriminated against in the United States.

Go on.
I will wait.

They are victims for either attention, or money. The "leaders" or advocates for these victims are in it for the money, votes and power.

OP needs a safe space.

You're free to start your own thread if you want to host a different discussion.

Because whining like children get you attention and stuff.

i feel victimized by this thread

713nervy said:

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You're free to start your own thread if you want to host a different discussion.

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Hey, you started it.

Since you asserted that there are minority groups that need to be helped and need to be treated better I am just asking you to provide an example of such a situation for clarity so you can get an answer to the question you asked.

Or were you not really wanting an answer to the question and just wanted to virtue signal a little?

maroon barchetta said:

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How can middle aged white men be victims when they are the architects of everything that is wrong in the world today?

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That's about the dumbest thing I have heard in weeks.

Sponge said:

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You forgot middle age white men. Those babies always think someone is out to get them.
It's easier to blame being attacked than admitting you might just be a loser and things are your fault.

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Found the black ****** y'all.

The question was directed to the OP.

You didn't reply to the OP. I think that is the confusion.

The first sentence in my post says "for the OP," but perhaps you're right.

713nervy said:

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The question was directed to the OP.

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It's a semi public discussion board. If u want to have a one on one discussion, that is what dm's are for.

Ur more than welcome to direct a question to a particular poster. I have no problem with that. However expecting everyone else to stay silent

1) is not realistic and 2) not what a discussion board is designed to function as.

It seems like you would rather avoid the question than have the discussion. Pity.

I have thoroughly enjoyed the discussions we have had in the past.

javajaws said:

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The internet and social media has made people realize their life is inconsequential so they look for excuses instead of coping with their minor existence on this planet.

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Wait until the news of Aliens among us finally gets released.

swc93 said:

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javajaws said:

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The internet and social media has made people realize their life is inconsequential so they look for excuses instead of coping with their minor existence on this planet.

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Wait until the news of Aliens among us finally gets released.

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I'm still not sure if I should place my Vegas bet on life ending as an alien sex slave or becoming an AI battery. Of course if you consider AI to be alien life it could be both!

Hmm so looks like no one knows!

infinity ag said:

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Hmm so looks like no one knows!

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It is probably because OP touches himself at night.

Victim of Love

Okay, let me rephrase my question.

Is there a difference between being a victim vs. advocating for yourself and demanding better treatment if you feel like you've been treated unfairly?

713nervy said:

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Okay, let me rephrase my question.

Is there a difference between being a victim vs. advocating for yourself and demanding better treatment if you feel like you've been treated unfairly?

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Yes-

Victim Mentality I or my ancestors have been treated unfairly. Therefore society owes me something that I have not earned by the merits of my work. If I am not given this free thing that I demand then there is no way that I will be successful or get ahead. I am not willing to put forth the effort to overcome the barriers to success of which there are many. Most people that got ahead are successful because of their race/gender/sexuality and therefore all people of that race/gender and sexuality should be held back until I believe enough of "my people" including me achieve whatever levels of power and wealth I think evens out the universal balance. I refuse to recognize that everyone and everyone's ancestors at some point and time faced adversity because my special level of adversity is worse than theirs.

Advocating for Oneself
I work hard. I realize that life is unfair. However it is my job to compete to the best of my ability and advocate for myself when I have earned something. If whoever I am associating with refuses to recognize my hard work and achievement I will either advocate harder or move on to someone who will recognize my hard work. I realize that the lack of recognition could be due to a number of things (goals not being aligned, bad luck, bad timing, or just a ****ty boss). However my first ASSUMPTION is not that my race, sexuality, gender, and height are the primary cause until I have gathered enough evidence to be shown that is the case. If that is the case then I will hold that individual accountable for being a total ******. However, that individual's personal bias does not mean 1) that is how all of society behaves 2) that I am owed anything other than what the work of my merit has rightfully earned me.

I recognize that ALL people regardless of race, religion, sexual orientation, and gender have faced some level of adversity in the present or in the past and that overcoming adversity is necessary for success. The adversity I face is similar to the adversity most people face because the world is imperfect. And though there is always room for improvement human beings are imperfect and that imperfection is reflected in society. Therefore I do not automatically assume that other successful people got to where they are because of their race/religion/sexual orientation and do not bear them any ill will for their current level of success.

^^pretty clear^^

I was at a restaurant last Friday with my family. A couple in their 30s got seated next to us while we get our food. They didn't get greeted by their waiter for probably 3-5 minutes. They spent the next 10 minutes complaining to different staff…ending with the manager. Their waitress was very busy but got to them. Of course, the manager caved by offering a few free drinks and a discount. Just witnessing the entitlement was annoying. I wish the manager would have just apologized. The few minute delay didn't hurt them one but playing a victim gets you stuff in our society.

The answer to the OP is Social Media. SM companies track what their users stop to read or slow down as they are scrolling past and they start filtering the content the user sees to only things they like or agree with so they'll spend more time on the SM site. More time spent on the SM feeds = more advertising $.

Pretty soon, the only thing people see on their social media feed are things they agree with and they start to think everyone else in the world agrees with those things since it is all they see. Then, any time they see a different POV, they automatically perceive it as wrong and an attack against them personally.

Oh, and also participation trophies.

Ags4DaWin said:

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I have thoroughly enjoyed the discussions we have had in the past.

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Really? Man, they've driven me to drink.

Didn't read the thread, but I don't like black people either.

713nervy said:

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Ags4DaWin said:

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I have thoroughly enjoyed the discussions we have had in the past.

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Really? Man, they've driven me to drink.

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His courtship of you is working than

713nervy said:

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Ags4DaWin said:

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I have thoroughly enjoyed the discussions we have had in the past.

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Really? Man, they've driven me to drink.

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Nervy…….Next post is 16000. Make it memorable!

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555-PINF said:

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The "everyone is a winner" experiment failed miserably. That, and bullying was stopped (by the people who were likely the ones being bullied). Bring those back and save the young generation.

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I see some good points here.

When my son (19 now) won a participation trophy in his kids basketball when he was maybe 5, on the drive back I told him gently about it and explained that there were 2 kinds. Earned, and Participation. Participation was for showing up. Earned is what we need to aim for. While this one was okay (he was 5, I can't be too hard on him) next time I want him to win the championship and show me his trophy.

He and his team won the local basketball trophy in 2016 and 2017. He comes to me and shows it and gave him a big high 5. That is what I am talking about!

He is very competitive and hard working now and has gotten into several competitive clubs in college both academic and sporting (tennis).

My daughter won a few participation trophies in tennis at age 13 (she is 15 now). I explained it to her that those were meaningless and in front of her, dropped that trophy in the trash can. It's gone. I wanted her to win something through hard work, not showing up. She hasn't won a tournament yet, but has won a back-draw so I let her keep that.

When my friends (men my age) got to know about this, they were horrified. What an awful dad. But my daughter knows exactly what is expected of her and she is not scarred or traumatized because I clearly explained it to her.

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It's not the conversation and the message it's the dropping the trophy in the trash that was the dick move.

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That's where participation trophies go. In the trash.
I'm raising winners not weiners or whiners.

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Can she have coffee, or is that only for closers?

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infinity ag said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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infinity ag said:

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555-PINF said:

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The "everyone is a winner" experiment failed miserably. That, and bullying was stopped (by the people who were likely the ones being bullied). Bring those back and save the young generation.

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I see some good points here.

When my son (19 now) won a participation trophy in his kids basketball when he was maybe 5, on the drive back I told him gently about it and explained that there were 2 kinds. Earned, and Participation. Participation was for showing up. Earned is what we need to aim for. While this one was okay (he was 5, I can't be too hard on him) next time I want him to win the championship and show me his trophy.

He and his team won the local basketball trophy in 2016 and 2017. He comes to me and shows it and gave him a big high 5. That is what I am talking about!

He is very competitive and hard working now and has gotten into several competitive clubs in college both academic and sporting (tennis).

My daughter won a few participation trophies in tennis at age 13 (she is 15 now). I explained it to her that those were meaningless and in front of her, dropped that trophy in the trash can. It's gone. I wanted her to win something through hard work, not showing up. She hasn't won a tournament yet, but has won a back-draw so I let her keep that.

When my friends (men my age) got to know about this, they were horrified. What an awful dad. But my daughter knows exactly what is expected of her and she is not scarred or traumatized because I clearly explained it to her.

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It's not the conversation and the message it's the dropping the trophy in the trash that was the dick move.

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That's where participation trophies go. In the trash.
I'm raising winners not weiners or whiners.

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No, you're raising a daughter who will have daddy issues and likely have difficulty finding a healthy partner relationship as an adult. Explaining that participation trophies have no meaning is good but bragging like you're a badass for throwing it in the trash in from of her is a dick move extraordinaire.

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Shhhhh.... in 3 years when she's 18 she'll be looking for approval from old dudes like me. Don't correct him