You sound a little paranoid. If only there were someone you could talk to about this. Help you work it through.

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Because I don't need to pay someone to tell me what I already know.

I'm sure it is helpful to a lot of people who need someone else to help them figure things out and face their issues and help find a way out.

I know my issues, I'm not scared to face them, I'm just too lazy sometimes, too get off my ass and do something about them.

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This. People are scared to feel bad or have trouble reliving emotionally damaging parts of their life. And medication only helps so much. All medication will really do in the end is allow you a better chance to face these issues and figure out how they're going to be incorporated into your life in a positive way

The end goal of all of it is not to ever feel bad again- it should be to be able to excel in life and enjoy it despite negative thoughts or events that may happen

any good Analyst/Therapist recommendations?

Better to just play it safe than risk divulging any information that could someday be used against you. One of the big new gun control talking points is to ban guns under the umbrella of "mental health."

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Because I don't need to pay someone to tell me what I already know.

I'm sure it is helpful to a lot of people who need someone else to help them figure things out and face their issues and help find a way out.

I know my issues, I'm not scared to face them, I'm just too lazy sometimes, too get off my ass and do something about them.

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This. People are scared to feel bad or have trouble reliving emotionally damaging parts of their life. And medication only helps so much. All medication will really do in the end is allow you a better chance to face these issues and figure out how they're going to be incorporated into your life in a positive way

The end goal of all of it is not to ever feel bad again- it should be to be able to excel in life and enjoy it despite negative thoughts or events that may happen

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This x100

If you go into therapy expecting them to "fix" you, you're going to be disappointed. My goal in therapy is to learn to live with my conditions and baggage in a manner that allows me to live a fulfilling life, and hopefully enrich the lives of those that I come into contact with instead of being an overly emotional, irrational *******

How'd your operation go?

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My experience with counselors/therapists

Most of them have their own baggage. MOST of the time you don't go into learning how to shrink someone else's brain unless you are trying to figure your own **** out as well and deal with your own baggage.

I have been to a few. One for relationship counseling with the wife. Many of the females have a very feminist/man hating slant. The profession has many practitioners ith a waaaaaayyy off slanted view of reality.

The first few the wife and I went to even the wife told me were man hating feminazis after an appt or two so it took us awhile to find a decent one. And even the last one tended to go that way although it wasn't so blatant and awful that it overshadowed the good points and exercises she had us do.

In the end we just picked and chose what she said that was useful and what seemed like man hating BS.

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Sounds like you're trying to convince yourself with that really long explanation. Also, who needs a therapist when one has Forum 16!

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Because I don't need to pay someone to tell me what I already know.

I'm sure it is helpful to a lot of people who need someone else to help them figure things out and face their issues and help find a way out.

I know my issues, I'm not scared to face them, I'm just too lazy sometimes, too get off my ass and do something about them.

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This. People are scared to feel bad or have trouble reliving emotionally damaging parts of their life. And medication only helps so much. All medication will really do in the end is allow you a better chance to face these issues and figure out how they're going to be incorporated into your life in a positive way

The end goal of all of it is not to ever feel bad again- it should be to be able to excel in life and enjoy it despite negative thoughts or events that may happen

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This x100

If you go into therapy expecting them to "fix" you, you're going to be disappointed. My goal in therapy is to learn to live with my conditions and baggage in a manner that allows me to live a fulfilling life, and hopefully enrich the lives of those that I come into contact with instead of being an overly emotional, irrational *******

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Yep. Your feelings are your feelings and no one should tell you how to feel. However, what is critical is how you handle your feelings, how you respond to yourself and others based on those feelings, and how you let your feelings impact your goals and obligations in life. And not to see yourself as a victim and be happy and thankful for what you do have even when dealt a crappy hand.

Maybe that's it. I'm one of those that grew up in relatively fortunate circumstances and have good physical and mental health and very little baggage, and That takes care not to needlessly create more mental baggage, and Is generally pleased with life and self and doesn't really care all that much about the opinions of others, any more than we should at least. In that state, therapy seems rather unnecessary, right? We save it for those who need it more.

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Maybe that's it. I'm one of those that grew up in relatively fortunate circumstances and have good physical and mental health and very little baggage, and That takes care not to needlessly create more mental baggage, and Is generally pleased with life and self and doesn't really care all that much about the opinions of others, any more than we should at least. In that state, therapy seems rather unnecessary, right? We save it for those who need it more.

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I don't disagree with that notion... free up therapist space for those who need it. Just like I don't take insulin... I don't need it.

Whenever I'm sad I stop being sad and be awesome instead.

It's ok to have big cans.

I can't find one with loose morals and a great pair of tits.

My therapist: He is my best friend, but I have to pay him for it.

I don't see the point, for me. I've been very lucky and can't really think of anything that needs work. That's not meant to be a slight against anyone else, I didn't do much to earn good mental health and hygiene.

I was seeing someone every so often prior to the divorce and into early this year. Zoom meeting just don't really cut it IMO.

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I was seeing someone every so often prior to the divorce and into early this year. Zoom meeting just don't really cut it IMO.

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Yeah ive been zooming with mine as well. those sweater puppets just dont look the same on zoom

Feelings and s***

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I was seeing someone every so often prior to the divorce and into early this year. Zoom meeting just don't really cut it IMO.

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It would definitely be tough if you didn't have a really good relationship already.

This post is simply OP patting her (him)self on the back for going to therapy.

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This post is simply OP patting her (him)self on the back for going to therapy.

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Ummm... excuse me? Nervy is perfect and I love her and I will CUT YOU.

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42 said:

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Because I don't need to pay someone to tell me what I already know.

I'm sure it is helpful to a lot of people who need someone else to help them figure things out and face their issues and help find a way out.

I know my issues, I'm not scared to face them, I'm just too lazy sometimes, too get off my ass and do something about them.

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This. People are scared to feel bad or have trouble reliving emotionally damaging parts of their life. And medication only helps so much. All medication will really do in the end is allow you a better chance to face these issues and figure out how they're going to be incorporated into your life in a positive way

The end goal of all of it is not to ever feel bad again- it should be to be able to excel in life and enjoy it despite negative thoughts or events that may happen

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This x100

If you go into therapy expecting them to "fix" you, you're going to be disappointed. My goal in therapy is to learn to live with my conditions and baggage in a manner that allows me to live a fulfilling life, and hopefully enrich the lives of those that I come into contact with instead of being an overly emotional, irrational *******

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Yep. Your feelings are your feelings and no one should tell you how to feel. However, what is critical is how you handle your feelings, how you respond to yourself and others based on those feelings, and how you let your feelings impact your goals and obligations in life. And not to see yourself as a victim and be happy and thankful for what you do have even when dealt a crappy hand.

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Emotions are translated into feelings. Feelings can be wrong or may need a different perspective. Everyone has emotions. It's what makes us human. When we turn an emotion into the wrong feeling we get school shooters and domestic abusers.

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Old RV Ag said:

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tandy miller said:

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True Anomaly said:

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42 said:

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Because I don't need to pay someone to tell me what I already know.

I'm sure it is helpful to a lot of people who need someone else to help them figure things out and face their issues and help find a way out.

I know my issues, I'm not scared to face them, I'm just too lazy sometimes, too get off my ass and do something about them.

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This. People are scared to feel bad or have trouble reliving emotionally damaging parts of their life. And medication only helps so much. All medication will really do in the end is allow you a better chance to face these issues and figure out how they're going to be incorporated into your life in a positive way

The end goal of all of it is not to ever feel bad again- it should be to be able to excel in life and enjoy it despite negative thoughts or events that may happen

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This x100

If you go into therapy expecting them to "fix" you, you're going to be disappointed. My goal in therapy is to learn to live with my conditions and baggage in a manner that allows me to live a fulfilling life, and hopefully enrich the lives of those that I come into contact with instead of being an overly emotional, irrational *******

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Yep. Your feelings are your feelings and no one should tell you how to feel. However, what is critical is how you handle your feelings, how you respond to yourself and others based on those feelings, and how you let your feelings impact your goals and obligations in life. And not to see yourself as a victim and be happy and thankful for what you do have even when dealt a crappy hand.

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Emotions are translated into feelings. Feelings can be wrong or may need a different perspective. Everyone has emotions. It's what makes us human. When we turn an emotion into the wrong feeling we get school shooters and domestic abusers.

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Ok - think we're saying essentially the same thing here. Think you use "emotions" where I use "feelings" - it's how we channel/react to our emotion/feelings that's important. Simple example - "that makes me feel angry" - no one should tell me my feeling angry is wrong. But, as you say, my anger should never translate to shooting up a school or hitting the wife.

Old RV Ag said:

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Builder93 said:

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Old RV Ag said:

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tandy miller said:

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True Anomaly said:

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42 said:

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Because I don't need to pay someone to tell me what I already know.

I'm sure it is helpful to a lot of people who need someone else to help them figure things out and face their issues and help find a way out.

I know my issues, I'm not scared to face them, I'm just too lazy sometimes, too get off my ass and do something about them.

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This. People are scared to feel bad or have trouble reliving emotionally damaging parts of their life. And medication only helps so much. All medication will really do in the end is allow you a better chance to face these issues and figure out how they're going to be incorporated into your life in a positive way

The end goal of all of it is not to ever feel bad again- it should be to be able to excel in life and enjoy it despite negative thoughts or events that may happen

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This x100

If you go into therapy expecting them to "fix" you, you're going to be disappointed. My goal in therapy is to learn to live with my conditions and baggage in a manner that allows me to live a fulfilling life, and hopefully enrich the lives of those that I come into contact with instead of being an overly emotional, irrational *******

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Yep. Your feelings are your feelings and no one should tell you how to feel. However, what is critical is how you handle your feelings, how you respond to yourself and others based on those feelings, and how you let your feelings impact your goals and obligations in life. And not to see yourself as a victim and be happy and thankful for what you do have even when dealt a crappy hand.

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Emotions are translated into feelings. Feelings can be wrong or may need a different perspective. Everyone has emotions. It's what makes us human. When we turn an emotion into the wrong feeling we get school shooters and domestic abusers.

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Ok - think we're saying essentially the same thing here. Think you use "emotions" where I use "feelings" - it's how we channel/react to our emotion/feelings that's important. Simple example - "that makes me feel angry" - no one should tell me my feeling angry is wrong. But, as you say, my anger should never translate to shooting up a school or hitting the wife.

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But you can translate other emotions into feelings of anger, etc..

I need to go for a multitude for reasons. But VA is beyond sub par and I can't afford it on my own. Being a lolpoor kinda sucks most times. (all the time).

Plus, going means admitting you have an issue in the first place. Crucial first step that is hard to do for most.

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Old RV Ag said:

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tandy miller said:

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True Anomaly said:

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42 said:

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Because I don't need to pay someone to tell me what I already know.

I'm sure it is helpful to a lot of people who need someone else to help them figure things out and face their issues and help find a way out.

I know my issues, I'm not scared to face them, I'm just too lazy sometimes, too get off my ass and do something about them.

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This. People are scared to feel bad or have trouble reliving emotionally damaging parts of their life. And medication only helps so much. All medication will really do in the end is allow you a better chance to face these issues and figure out how they're going to be incorporated into your life in a positive way

The end goal of all of it is not to ever feel bad again- it should be to be able to excel in life and enjoy it despite negative thoughts or events that may happen

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This x100

If you go into therapy expecting them to "fix" you, you're going to be disappointed. My goal in therapy is to learn to live with my conditions and baggage in a manner that allows me to live a fulfilling life, and hopefully enrich the lives of those that I come into contact with instead of being an overly emotional, irrational *******

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Yep. Your feelings are your feelings and no one should tell you how to feel. However, what is critical is how you handle your feelings, how you respond to yourself and others based on those feelings, and how you let your feelings impact your goals and obligations in life. And not to see yourself as a victim and be happy and thankful for what you do have even when dealt a crappy hand.

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Emotions are translated into feelings. Feelings can be wrong or may need a different perspective. Everyone has emotions. It's what makes us human. When we turn an emotion into the wrong feeling we get school shooters and domestic abusers.

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Ok - think we're saying essentially the same thing here. Think you use "emotions" where I use "feelings" - it's how we channel/react to our emotion/feelings that's important. Simple example - "that makes me feel angry" - no one should tell me my feeling angry is wrong. But, as you say, my anger should never translate to shooting up a school or hitting the wife.

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But you can translate other emotions into feelings of anger, etc..

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But if you don't know how to channel your feelings it can translate into an emotional outburst. Where are you going with this? Six one half dozen the other.

because of the damn coronavirus. only Zoom meetings. yea, let's tell all our vulnerable issues to someone over the computer.

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I was seeing someone every so often prior to the divorce and into early this year. Zoom meeting just don't really cut it IMO.

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It would definitely be tough if you didn't have a really good relationship already.

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It had been a little over a year by that point, there are just way too many things I miss when someone is on a screen. Plus being stuck at home all the time being part of the reason for being down of course.

Eliminatus-

I'm not sure where you're located, but I know your position too well. Fortunately, I was introduced to a few non-for profit groups to assist with private party costs. The VA wait, their desire to diagnose for CBT vs PTSD, and flexible access is ridiculous. I'm happy to help in any way to get you lined up with a competent handler to start. austinrb1 at yahoo

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Old RV Ag said:

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Old RV Ag said:

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tandy miller said:

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True Anomaly said:

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42 said:

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Because I don't need to pay someone to tell me what I already know.

I'm sure it is helpful to a lot of people who need someone else to help them figure things out and face their issues and help find a way out.

I know my issues, I'm not scared to face them, I'm just too lazy sometimes, too get off my ass and do something about them.

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This. People are scared to feel bad or have trouble reliving emotionally damaging parts of their life. And medication only helps so much. All medication will really do in the end is allow you a better chance to face these issues and figure out how they're going to be incorporated into your life in a positive way

The end goal of all of it is not to ever feel bad again- it should be to be able to excel in life and enjoy it despite negative thoughts or events that may happen

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This x100

If you go into therapy expecting them to "fix" you, you're going to be disappointed. My goal in therapy is to learn to live with my conditions and baggage in a manner that allows me to live a fulfilling life, and hopefully enrich the lives of those that I come into contact with instead of being an overly emotional, irrational *******

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Yep. Your feelings are your feelings and no one should tell you how to feel. However, what is critical is how you handle your feelings, how you respond to yourself and others based on those feelings, and how you let your feelings impact your goals and obligations in life. And not to see yourself as a victim and be happy and thankful for what you do have even when dealt a crappy hand.

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Emotions are translated into feelings. Feelings can be wrong or may need a different perspective. Everyone has emotions. It's what makes us human. When we turn an emotion into the wrong feeling we get school shooters and domestic abusers.

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Ok - think we're saying essentially the same thing here. Think you use "emotions" where I use "feelings" - it's how we channel/react to our emotion/feelings that's important. Simple example - "that makes me feel angry" - no one should tell me my feeling angry is wrong. But, as you say, my anger should never translate to shooting up a school or hitting the wife.

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But you can translate other emotions into feelings of anger, etc..

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But if you don't know how to channel your feelings it can translate into an emotional outburst. Where are you going with this? Six one half dozen the other.

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It's a deep discussion in short bursts. I guess in my thinking I'm separating limbic vs pre-frontal cortex.

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Old RV Ag said:

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Old RV Ag said:

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Builder93 said:

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Old RV Ag said:

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tandy miller said:

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True Anomaly said:

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42 said:

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Because I don't need to pay someone to tell me what I already know.

I'm sure it is helpful to a lot of people who need someone else to help them figure things out and face their issues and help find a way out.

I know my issues, I'm not scared to face them, I'm just too lazy sometimes, too get off my ass and do something about them.

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This. People are scared to feel bad or have trouble reliving emotionally damaging parts of their life. And medication only helps so much. All medication will really do in the end is allow you a better chance to face these issues and figure out how they're going to be incorporated into your life in a positive way

The end goal of all of it is not to ever feel bad again- it should be to be able to excel in life and enjoy it despite negative thoughts or events that may happen

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This x100

If you go into therapy expecting them to "fix" you, you're going to be disappointed. My goal in therapy is to learn to live with my conditions and baggage in a manner that allows me to live a fulfilling life, and hopefully enrich the lives of those that I come into contact with instead of being an overly emotional, irrational *******

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Yep. Your feelings are your feelings and no one should tell you how to feel. However, what is critical is how you handle your feelings, how you respond to yourself and others based on those feelings, and how you let your feelings impact your goals and obligations in life. And not to see yourself as a victim and be happy and thankful for what you do have even when dealt a crappy hand.

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Emotions are translated into feelings. Feelings can be wrong or may need a different perspective. Everyone has emotions. It's what makes us human. When we turn an emotion into the wrong feeling we get school shooters and domestic abusers.

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Ok - think we're saying essentially the same thing here. Think you use "emotions" where I use "feelings" - it's how we channel/react to our emotion/feelings that's important. Simple example - "that makes me feel angry" - no one should tell me my feeling angry is wrong. But, as you say, my anger should never translate to shooting up a school or hitting the wife.

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But you can translate other emotions into feelings of anger, etc..

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But if you don't know how to channel your feelings it can translate into an emotional outburst. Where are you going with this? Six one half dozen the other.

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It's a deep discussion in short bursts. I guess in my thinking I'm separating limbic vs pre-frontal cortex.

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Ah, the deep thinking builder...just can't compete.

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OP trying to make herself feel better for going to the shrink?

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I feel better BECAUSE I go to the shrink. I wish more people did, hence the thread. Obviously I gave up feeling shame a LONG time ago...

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Obviously I gave up feeling shame a LONG time ago...

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