That outfit is perfect given the context of the song. Or maybe I have a weird thing for Natalie.

Regardless, she looks better w long hair.

She looks like transgender Ronald McDonald in that pic

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I'm not mad at them, they have a right to be idiots. If I boycotted every celebrity that was a dumb lefty there wouldn't be much music to listen too or movies to watch.

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my playlist is getting shorter and shorter. At least Ted Nugent is reliable

Love Ted...

HTXAG19 said:

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Shooter McGavin said:

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HTXAG19 said:

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No. Who cares? It's music. I could give a rats ass where all my favorite actors and musicians stand politically. If you do, lighten up

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You will someday young grasshopper.

Wait until you start making some real money and have a family. The real world around you will matter a little more.

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But it doesn't. It's music. Them hating a president has nothing to do with how good they are at making music. Do you boycott Target and Starbucks too?

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I don't spend money in either one, and yes, their political stance, but more importantly, the in your face manner in which they express it, has a lot to do with that.

I have no doubt some of the places I do spend money support things I don't agree with, but usually they are smart enough to enough to keep their mouth shut.

I don't spend any real time or effort researchingwho I avoid patronizing, but I also won't ignore blatant political virtue signaling.

Elvis Presley was the smartest entertainer I ever saw where this stuff is concerned. Even when pushed, he made it clear he was just not going to get into political comments.

I work damn hard for my money. I've been blessed to make a lot of it. I will not support stuff that blatantly flies in the face of my beliefs.

I would bet not all virtue signaling turns you off.

Beachbabe19 said:

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Love Ted...

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Power ballad!

That escalated quickly

leakypipes said:

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That escalated quickly

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Well to be fair I left off the part where he had sex with his daughter

https://www.houstonpress.com/music/the-five-most-repellent-things-ted-nugent-has-ever-done-6756533

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leakypipes said:

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That escalated quickly

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Well to be fair I left off the part where he had sex with his daughter

https://www.houstonpress.com/music/the-five-most-repellent-things-ted-nugent-has-ever-done-6756533

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Oh so not his biological daughter. Plus she was also 17. I can't speak for the 70's, but 17 is legal age to consent to sex in Texas.

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leakypipes said:

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That escalated quickly

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Well to be fair I left off the part where he had sex with his daughter

https://www.houstonpress.com/music/the-five-most-repellent-things-ted-nugent-has-ever-done-6756533

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Oh so not his biological daughter. Plus she was also 17. I can't speak for the 70's, but 17 is legal age to consent to sex in Texas.

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Age of consent was 16 in Michigan at the time. 14 in Hawaii.

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If you want to rationalize away parents screwing their adopted children, that's on you.

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Well it makes for a good porn plot.

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I have to honestly say that I don't know why any artist who is selling their work for a living sees value in doing this. Take any issue where there is a sizeable group supporting both sides, and where it is contentious enough that you think anybody is likely to give a rat's a** what you have to say about it. If you voice your opinion forcefully and publicly on that issue, what do you stand to gain? You know you are going to piss off a big chunk of the people that disagree with you...and the people that care what you say and already agree with you, what more can they do for you if they are already buying your stuff? On any issue that contentious, nobody is changing their minds because some random country music artist speaks their mind about it. So what have you really gained other than losing a chunk of your paying fans?

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It's easy. Because they had a platform and used it. Money isn't everything to some people.

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txags92 said:

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I have to honestly say that I don't know why any artist who is selling their work for a living sees value in doing this. Take any issue where there is a sizeable group supporting both sides, and where it is contentious enough that you think anybody is likely to give a rat's a** what you have to say about it. If you voice your opinion forcefully and publicly on that issue, what do you stand to gain? You know you are going to piss off a big chunk of the people that disagree with you...and the people that care what you say and already agree with you, what more can they do for you if they are already buying your stuff? On any issue that contentious, nobody is changing their minds because some random country music artist speaks their mind about it. So what have you really gained other than losing a chunk of your paying fans?

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It's easy. Because they had a platform and used it. Money isn't everything to some people.

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"Used it" for what? Who were they converting? Nobody was going to hear what they said and suddenly say "you know what, they are right?" People who already agreed with them aren't going to change what they do, and people who don't agree will either tune them out or stop buying their music. Either way they had no impact, and they managed to destroy their career in the process.

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I have to honestly say that I don't know why any artist who is selling their work for a living sees value in doing this. Take any issue where there is a sizeable group supporting both sides, and where it is contentious enough that you think anybody is likely to give a rat's a** what you have to say about it. If you voice your opinion forcefully and publicly on that issue, what do you stand to gain? You know you are going to piss off a big chunk of the people that disagree with you...and the people that care what you say and already agree with you, what more can they do for you if they are already buying your stuff? On any issue that contentious, nobody is changing their minds because some random country music artist speaks their mind about it. So what have you really gained other than losing a chunk of your paying fans?

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It's easy. Because they had a platform and used it. Money isn't everything to some people.

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If Natalie had walked away without anger and bitterness in her heart, then I would say you have a good point. But she did not and a year later her music was angry, prideful and unapologetic. And even now she is still angry even though she decided to bite the hand that fed them. I'm guessing she is angry because she lost a huge opportunity for greater fame, a larger platform and greater wealth but instead will be / has been forgotten. A tragedy for sure.

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BQCadet said:

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txags92 said:

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I have to honestly say that I don't know why any artist who is selling their work for a living sees value in doing this. Take any issue where there is a sizeable group supporting both sides, and where it is contentious enough that you think anybody is likely to give a rat's a** what you have to say about it. If you voice your opinion forcefully and publicly on that issue, what do you stand to gain? You know you are going to piss off a big chunk of the people that disagree with you...and the people that care what you say and already agree with you, what more can they do for you if they are already buying your stuff? On any issue that contentious, nobody is changing their minds because some random country music artist speaks their mind about it. So what have you really gained other than losing a chunk of your paying fans?

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It's easy. Because they had a platform and used it. Money isn't everything to some people.

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If Natalie had walked away without anger and bitterness in her heart, then I would say you have a good point. But she did not and a year later her music was angry, prideful and unapologetic. And even now she is still angry even though she decided to bite the hand that fed them. I'm guessing she is angry because she lost a huge opportunity for greater fame, a larger platform and greater wealth but instead will be / has been forgotten. A tragedy for sure.

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Completely agree...it is a tragedy when an artist makes art that reflects their beliefs.

The world needs more Spice Girls and less Patti Smith

I felt the same way when I hear that "angry, prideful and unapologetic" toby Keith.

Why is it that many entertainers cant seem to understand that entertainment is as much about the personality behind the art as it is the art itself? And when you mix the two it may turn off as many as it may turn on.

The Dixie Chick music was perfectly fine. Her opinion was her opinion. I know plenty of people that didn't like George W. Bush, and we still remain friends. A big turnoff for many of Natalie Mains' fans was her pissy attitude about the whole ordeal.

"When they're running down my country, hoss, they're walking on the fightin' side of me."

Which is even funnier...Merle Haggard was a big ol' lib

All 3 Dixie Chicks at once, or Shania Twain when they were all in their primes?

It's gotta be Shania by a mile, right?

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All 3 Dixie Chicks at once, or Shania Twain when they were all in their primes?

It's gotta be Shania by a mile, right?

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Shania Twain is probably as insipid and boring as her music.

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Woody2006 said:

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All 3 Dixie Chicks at once, or Shania Twain when they were all in their primes?

It's gotta be Shania by a mile, right?

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Shania Twain is probably as insipid and boring as her music.

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Ain't nothing boring about those titays!

Anyone who grew up in Lubbock and shat on it vocally and publicly any chance they could after leaving it forever has my full and undying respect.

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HTXAG19 said:

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Shooter McGavin said:

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HTXAG19 said:

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No. Who cares? It's music. I could give a rats ass where all my favorite actors and musicians stand politically. If you do, lighten up

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You will someday young grasshopper.

Wait until you start making some real money and have a family. The real world around you will matter a little more.

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But it doesn't. It's music. Them hating a president has nothing to do with how good they are at making music. Do you boycott Target and Starbucks too?

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I don't spend money in either one, and yes, their political stance, but more importantly, the in your face manner in which they express it, has a lot to do with that.

I have no doubt some of the places I do spend money support things I don't agree with, but usually they are smart enough to enough to keep their mouth shut.

I don't spend any real time or effort researchingwho I avoid patronizing, but I also won't ignore blatant political virtue signaling.

Elvis Presley was the smartest entertainer I ever saw where this stuff is concerned. Even when pushed, he made it clear he was just not going to get into political comments.

I work damn hard for my money. I've been blessed to make a lot of it. I will not support stuff that blatantly flies in the face of my beliefs.

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The good news is, buying Dixie Chicks records is not compulsory.

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BQCadet said:

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txags92 said:

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I have to honestly say that I don't know why any artist who is selling their work for a living sees value in doing this. Take any issue where there is a sizeable group supporting both sides, and where it is contentious enough that you think anybody is likely to give a rat's a** what you have to say about it. If you voice your opinion forcefully and publicly on that issue, what do you stand to gain? You know you are going to piss off a big chunk of the people that disagree with you...and the people that care what you say and already agree with you, what more can they do for you if they are already buying your stuff? On any issue that contentious, nobody is changing their minds because some random country music artist speaks their mind about it. So what have you really gained other than losing a chunk of your paying fans?

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It's easy. Because they had a platform and used it. Money isn't everything to some people.

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If Natalie had walked away without anger and bitterness in her heart, then I would say you have a good point. But she did not and a year later her music was angry, prideful and unapologetic. And even now she is still angry even though she decided to bite the hand that fed them. I'm guessing she is angry because she lost a huge opportunity for greater fame, a larger platform and greater wealth but instead will be / has been forgotten. A tragedy for sure.

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Of course she is unapologetic. That's because she isn't sorry for what she said. She was angry because she was receiving death threats for what she said. And "I'm not ready to make nice" was about her giving the middle finger to those trying to intimidate her. And maybe she doesn't think it's a tragedy. Again, some people care about more than money and fame.

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BQCadet said:

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txags92 said:

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I have to honestly say that I don't know why any artist who is selling their work for a living sees value in doing this. Take any issue where there is a sizeable group supporting both sides, and where it is contentious enough that you think anybody is likely to give a rat's a** what you have to say about it. If you voice your opinion forcefully and publicly on that issue, what do you stand to gain? You know you are going to piss off a big chunk of the people that disagree with you...and the people that care what you say and already agree with you, what more can they do for you if they are already buying your stuff? On any issue that contentious, nobody is changing their minds because some random country music artist speaks their mind about it. So what have you really gained other than losing a chunk of your paying fans?

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It's easy. Because they had a platform and used it. Money isn't everything to some people.

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"Used it" for what? Who were they converting? Nobody was going to hear what they said and suddenly say "you know what, they are right?" People who already agreed with them aren't going to change what they do, and people who don't agree will either tune them out or stop buying their music. Either way they had no impact, and they managed to destroy their career in the process.

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Used it to speak her mind. For some people that's more valuable than money. You guys act like they are all poor and homeless now. They are all still set for life.

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Which is even funnier...Merle Haggard was a big ol' lib

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Most classic country megastars were/are VERY liberal. Merle Haggard and Willie Nelson among them.

BQCadet said:

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txags92 said:

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BQCadet said:

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txags92 said:

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I have to honestly say that I don't know why any artist who is selling their work for a living sees value in doing this. Take any issue where there is a sizeable group supporting both sides, and where it is contentious enough that you think anybody is likely to give a rat's a** what you have to say about it. If you voice your opinion forcefully and publicly on that issue, what do you stand to gain? You know you are going to piss off a big chunk of the people that disagree with you...and the people that care what you say and already agree with you, what more can they do for you if they are already buying your stuff? On any issue that contentious, nobody is changing their minds because some random country music artist speaks their mind about it. So what have you really gained other than losing a chunk of your paying fans?

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It's easy. Because they had a platform and used it. Money isn't everything to some people.

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"Used it" for what? Who were they converting? Nobody was going to hear what they said and suddenly say "you know what, they are right?" People who already agreed with them aren't going to change what they do, and people who don't agree will either tune them out or stop buying their music. Either way they had no impact, and they managed to destroy their career in the process.

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Used it to speak her mind. For some people that's more valuable than money. You guys act like they are all poor and homeless now. They are all still set for life.

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Yeah, all the edgy angry music she is putting out really tells me she is loving her life now...

BQCadet said:

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txags92 said:

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BQCadet said:

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txags92 said:

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I have to honestly say that I don't know why any artist who is selling their work for a living sees value in doing this. Take any issue where there is a sizeable group supporting both sides, and where it is contentious enough that you think anybody is likely to give a rat's a** what you have to say about it. If you voice your opinion forcefully and publicly on that issue, what do you stand to gain? You know you are going to piss off a big chunk of the people that disagree with you...and the people that care what you say and already agree with you, what more can they do for you if they are already buying your stuff? On any issue that contentious, nobody is changing their minds because some random country music artist speaks their mind about it. So what have you really gained other than losing a chunk of your paying fans?

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It's easy. Because they had a platform and used it. Money isn't everything to some people.

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"Used it" for what? Who were they converting? Nobody was going to hear what they said and suddenly say "you know what, they are right?" People who already agreed with them aren't going to change what they do, and people who don't agree will either tune them out or stop buying their music. Either way they had no impact, and they managed to destroy their career in the process.

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Used it to speak her mind. For some people that's more valuable than money. You guys act like they are all poor and homeless now. They are all still set for life.

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Well, there certainly was a lot of squawking from them at the time that their careers were being unfairly damaged by all the backlash they were getting

Dixie Chunks
Or
Dixie Chumps

BQCadet said:

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Charpie said:

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Which is even funnier...Merle Haggard was a big ol' lib

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Most classic country megastars were/are VERY liberal. Merle Haggard and Willie Nelson among them.

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You guys haven't read many interviews with the Hag. He was mostly Republican most of his life. Not that he talked politics overtly a lot.