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P.C. Principal
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I won't go on a rant about him again but he really, really, really has got to cut it out with the "media is the enemy of the people" talk.

I think the media mostly sucks. I don't like CNN, MSNBC, and I cannot stand Fox News. Criticize them all day long, but do not call them the enemy of the people.
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The Fife said:

I have no clue what he did this weekend but my left wing friends are all worked up over something.
It would be more surprising and worthy of investigating if your left wing friends WEREN'T worked up about something. It's a non-stop outrage for them.
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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P.C. Principal said:

I won't go on a rant about him again but he really, really, really has got to cut it out with the "media is the enemy of the people" talk.

I think the media mostly sucks. I don't like CNN, MSNBC, and I cannot stand Fox News. Criticize them all day long, but do not call them the enemy of the people.



It was found out this weekend that NBC had information that some of the Kavanaugh accusations were patently false and sat on them. Purposely withholding information from the public in order to sway opinions doesn't scream "for the people."
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P.C. Principal said:

I won't go on a rant about him again but he really, really, really has got to cut it out with the "media is the enemy of the people" talk.

I think the media mostly sucks. I don't like CNN, MSNBC, and I cannot stand Fox News. Criticize them all day long, but do not call them the enemy of the people.
I think the issue is the misplacement or misuse of the word media. The networks referenced are not actually broadcast media.
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c-jags said:

P.C. Principal said:

I won't go on a rant about him again but he really, really, really has got to cut it out with the "media is the enemy of the people" talk.

I think the media mostly sucks. I don't like CNN, MSNBC, and I cannot stand Fox News. Criticize them all day long, but do not call them the enemy of the people.



It was found out this weekend that NBC had information that some of the Kavanaugh accusations were patently false and sat on them. Purposely withholding information from the public in order to sway opinions doesn't scream "for the people."

Yep. They scream and cry about Trump but do crap like this and wonderful why people hate them.
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Rutedown said:

aTm2004 said:

Rojo Grande said:

He wasn't my first or even fifth choice on the republican side of things, but I wasn't going to vote for Hillary. Now that he's the man, he's done almost all of what he campaigned on..... Which is an interesting point. We've been complaining about lying politicians forever and here's a guy who wasn't a politician and has kept his promises since being elected, so I'm not sure why people don't like him. I'll admit he's a very bad impromptu speaker at rallies, but he's okay when scripted. I personally feel he's hilarious when he's not politically correct. One other thing...... I've owned my own business since 1998 and I've never made this much money. He's great for not only business, but the individual tax cuts make a huge difference to. I'll be voting for him again in 2020.
Because he's slept with a lot of women and cheated on his wives. That's pretty much it outside of unhinged libs who just hate him overall and can't cope with the fact that The Hildabeast lost. He's not "presidential" or anything. At the end of the day, taxes are lower, economy is booming, haven't heard from the Derkas who hate America in a while, and unemployment is at all-time lows. Couple that with how he's seemed to give the republicans a backbone to fight back against attacks from the media/libs, and I couldn't care less that he's not "presidential" (whatever that means).


Ugh, it's like we're 10 years old using words like this or Killary, Trumpettes, Trumpanzees, Obummer...

You forgot my personal favorite, Hitlery.
Floor it until you see God
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montegobay said:

Because Bill Clinton was a perv, Trump is a bipolar, narcissistic, disgusting liar. I have been a lifelong Republican. I did not vote for him or Hilary either. I voted for Gary Johnson because I wanted to sleep at night knowing I voted for a pothead over those two awful people. I am embarrassed that he is our president. I voted today in the midterms and very nearly voted a straight Dem ticket because I have zero respect for any politician or human who condones his behavior.
I'm honestly curious about this. Are there really "lifelong Republicans" that are discussed with the way politicians behave and find the solution to vote for the Democrats? I find that a strange solution. It seems to me that their behavior since 2016 has been at best on par with the Republicans. Also how do you, as a lifelong Republican, justify the complete 180 on policy by voting all Democrat? Or were you a voter that chose more based on personality and how you felt about the individual rather than voting based on policy?

I could see someone voting only third party and abstaining from voting in races that didn't have a third party, but I don't understand the sentiment of voting for all Democrats because I don't like the way a Republican acts that is actually not even on the ballot.
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aTm2004 said:

c-jags said:

P.C. Principal said:

I won't go on a rant about him again but he really, really, really has got to cut it out with the "media is the enemy of the people" talk.

I think the media mostly sucks. I don't like CNN, MSNBC, and I cannot stand Fox News. Criticize them all day long, but do not call them the enemy of the people.



It was found out this weekend that NBC had information that some of the Kavanaugh accusations were patently false and sat on them. Purposely withholding information from the public in order to sway opinions doesn't scream "for the people."

Yep. They scream and cry about Trump but do crap like this and wonderful why people hate them.
I'd like to think that if any media outlet began holding its journalists and editors accountable for actually trying to provide unbiased news and to research their stories instead of publishing third hand rumors Trump would stop behaving like he does towards most of the media today.

Not every story has to be kind to him or his positions, but if they actually had some credibility and integrity even most of his base would not look kindly on him bashing them. As it stands now, 90% of the country knows the media is completely biased.
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aTm FAN said:

Trump is a compulsive liar.


The last I heard, he campaigned on 38 different things he wanted to accomplish and has taken care of about 32-34 of them.

What has he compulsively lied about? Sex with a porn actress?
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Trident 88 said:

MooreTrucker said:

You know, it's cool to hate Trump now, according to the TV, so that's what many here are doing. Gotta be part of the cool kids, so we hate Trump.
This is a truly idiotic statement. Trump fails most moral standards for the Presidency that any decent human being should have, and that has been crystal clear since long before he ever joined the race and the MSM started losing their minds over his almost daily displays of idiocy.

I have no problem lauding many of the Trump administration's policy decisions, but in terms of leadership qualities, Trump is worse than Bill Clinton (all of the moral failings and none of the natural social skills), and I never even remotely considered voting for Bill Clinton.
I disagree. Trump is an excellent leader in spite of (or really, because of) his flaws.

He's just amoral. He was always amoral and he will always be amoral. This was all known before he was a candidate and before he was elected. That is the face value that people bought the guy at. What infuriates so many people -- particularly those that are far to the left -- is that his amorality is what makes him effective.

Think about it: no one would ever believe for a second that Trump is some upstanding bastion of moral character. So he's never forced to play defense over something he does or something someone in his administration does.

Remember the usual trope that you see when some (R) politician is in office?

  • media assigns moral value to (R) politician (note that it does not matter what the politician's values actually are)
  • media declares that action (R) politician took violates assigned moral value
  • media beats (R) politician relentlessly over the head because action violates value and he is therefore a hypocrite.

With Trump, that trope never works and it can't be used to force him on the defensive. So Trump is free to use all of the "daily displays of idiocy" to continue to bring out the absolute worst in his opposition while fading no serious heat from his supporter base. The left and the media have such a visceral hate for the man that he can lob a tweet at 4 am while dropping a deuce that will drive the news cycle for the remainder of the day while he and his administration carry on doing whatever the hell they want with no one really paying attention.
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What makes Trump "amoral" rather than "immoral"? His recent affiliation with the Republican Party?
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I'm surprised at the number of people who think Trump has accomplished so much. Obviously, 2 SCJs is a big deal, but that's Mitch's work, not Trump. So besides 2 SCJ, what? There are no trade deals. Like all trade deals, the new NAFTA requires congressional approval. There is no wall, all funding to date explicitly denies money for the wall. There is no reduction in immigration, illegal or not. Deregulation? Literally every deregulation attempt has failed in court. Obamacare survives. He hasn't drained the swamp. As Obama said last week, Trump has enough indictments in his administration to field a football team. The economy is chugging along the same path it was when he was elected. Every quarter for the last 25 years POTUS could proudly say black employment was up. He's the first that says it weekly. We have worse relations with our allies. Nobody else has paid a dime more into NATO than they already were. The North Korea thing has gone nowhere. The wars in the Middle East continue.

The only accomplishment he can legit cling to is the corporate tax cut that was followed by two of the largest quarter tax deficits in US history. All it did was prop up the stock market with corporate buybacks. And honestly, if the GOP controls the legislative and executive and can't pass a tax cut, that would be about as incompetent as it can get.

Last week he says he's going to deliver a middle class tax cut this week. This week he says he's going to invalidate the 14th Amendment by executive order. He's a ****ing idiot surrounded by ****ing idiot yes men. Literally the most incompetent group to work in the White House since before the Civil War.

Where am I missing all these "mission accomplished" banners?
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TF91 more like TDS91...amirite???
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A bunch of self-loathing beeches on this thread that are going to vote for him in 2020. You people are why we know the polls are always wrong on him, because you sorry spineless poozies lie.

But you'll give him a second term when you get in the polling booth. Yes, you will. Your sensibilities are a sham and you are also a ****ty human, just like everyone else. Trump is you in the mirror.
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Flag this troll's post. Loser.
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Your definition of an excellent leader and mine are clearly very different.

We can discuss subjective opinions of how effective Trump's management style is ad nauseum, but that's not the same thing as leadership.

There is no doubt that Trump lacks many of the leadership qualities valued so highly by our military. Frankly, it's a shame that he managed on multiple occasions to avoid serving our country. He might have learned from example.

Even by the Aggie Corps' standards:
- Trump isn't a soldier.
- Trump is Putin's gimp rather than a statesman.
- And as a self proclaimed "pu**y grabber", Trump damn sure isn't a knightly gentleman.
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Aggie said:


Our country is far better off now than the previous administration.

P.C. Principal
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Rojo Grande said:

aTm FAN said:

Trump is a compulsive liar.


The last I heard, he campaigned on 38 different things he wanted to accomplish and has taken care of about 32-34 of them.

What has he compulsively lied about? Sex with a porn actress?
Watch any of his rallies. He regularly says things that are straight-up false and his supporters eat it up. We already know he always lies about his crowd size because he's more insecure than a 14-year-old girl at the homecoming dance.

He lied about the number of people who died in PR after Maria. He had some rally in West Virginia when he said X number of steel mills reopened, when none had, he lied about pushing an immigration bill in Congress, he lied about payments to the porn star by saying he knew nothing about them, he lied about there being rioting in California about sanctuary cities, he lied about some egregious seven-figure number of illegal immigrants voting for Clinton, he lied about being the first Republican to win Wisconsin since 1952, he lied about passing the first tax cuts since Reagan. I could probably come back and add to this list at the end of the day.

All politicians lie, but lying is part of who he is. He has such low regard for his supporters that he lies to their faces every day. And they don't care. It's creepy how they will believe literally anything he says without question. And sad.

IDGAF about him banging the pornstar. Everyone has known he's a sleazy scumbag for years, so it's not like that changes anyone's opinion.
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I'm surprised at the number of people who think Trump has accomplished so much. Obviously, 2 SCJs is a big deal, but that's Mitch's work, not Trump. So besides 2 SCJ, what?
I think you're undervaluing Trump's role in Kavanaugh. The reason he's now seated on the Supreme Court is because of Trump not giving into the media and left's obvious last second hail mary that those before him would have caved to. Him continuing his support of Kavanaugh helped senators like Graham, Grassley, and Collins do what they did during the confirmation. He's showed the other republicans that it's OK to stand up to a bully and fight back when needed.

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As Obama said last week, Trump has enough indictments in his administration to field a football team.
That's because the left and media are trying their hardest to bring down anybody they can associated with him on whatever they can. Do you seriously think that the Obama administration (or Clinton for that matter) are clean and wouldn't have the same thing (or worse) if they were actually held accountable?

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The North Korea thing has gone nowhere. The wars in the Middle East continue.
When was the last time NK has test fired a missile toward SK or Japan and threatened the US? Wars in the ME will always continue. They've been going on for centuries and will continue for centuries. No President will ever be able to stabilize the ME. What he can do is protect the American people from the threats that originate from there, and Trump has done that. Under Obama, ISIS became powerful and we heard about an attack almost weekly somewhere in the world. When was the last time you heard about an ISIS attack? Saying Trump hasn't done anything with the ME is flat out wrong. He's not some uppity white shoe diplomat, but he saw a threat and took care of it. He appointed men in positions who aren't afraid to drop massive bombs on people who want to carry out terroristic acts in the name of their religion.
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he lied about being the first Republican to win Wisconsin since 1952


Should we ask Obama how many states are in the United States again? I could also type out a list of how many times Obama lied but I'm not sure if Texags has a character limit. That also applies to Hillary, George Jr, Billy Boy, George Sr., or any politician for that matter.
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P.C. Principal said:

Rojo Grande said:

aTm FAN said:

Trump is a compulsive liar.


The last I heard, he campaigned on 38 different things he wanted to accomplish and has taken care of about 32-34 of them.

What has he compulsively lied about? Sex with a porn actress?
Watch any of his rallies. He regularly says things that are straight-up false and his supporters eat it up. We already know he always lies about his crowd size because he's more insecure than a 14-year-old girl at the homecoming dance.

He lied about the number of people who died in PR after Maria. He had some rally in West Virginia when he said X number of steel mills reopened, when none had, he lied about pushing an immigration bill in Congress, he lied about payments to the porn star by saying he knew nothing about them, he lied about there being rioting in California about sanctuary cities, he lied about some egregious seven-figure number of illegal immigrants voting for Clinton, he lied about being the first Republican to win Wisconsin since 1952, he lied about passing the first tax cuts since Reagan. I could probably come back and add to this list at the end of the day.

All politicians lie, but lying is part of who he is. He has such low regard for his supporters that he lies to their faces every day. And they don't care. It's creepy how they will believe literally anything he says without question. And sad.

IDGAF about him banging the pornstar. Everyone has known he's a sleazy scumbag for years, so it's not like that changes anyone's opinion.
you sound like a titty baby repeating the same mantra in every thread you possibly can.
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trueaggie2782 said:

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he lied about being the first Republican to win Wisconsin since 1952


Should we ask Obama how many states are in the United States again? I could also type out a list of how many times Obama lied but I'm not sure if Texags has a character limit. That also applies to Hillary, George Jr, Billy Boy, George St., or any politician for that matter.
Low hanging fruit:
- Benghazi
- Fast & Furious
- "If you like your doctor you can keep him"
- Weaponization of the IRS for political enemies
- "You didn't build that"
- "At least I'll go down as a President" - Love this one
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This whole Trump phenomenon has turned out to be great psychological theater in the bemused academic sense.

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Ragoo said:

P.C. Principal said:

Rojo Grande said:

aTm FAN said:

Trump is a compulsive liar.


The last I heard, he campaigned on 38 different things he wanted to accomplish and has taken care of about 32-34 of them.

What has he compulsively lied about? Sex with a porn actress?
Watch any of his rallies. He regularly says things that are straight-up false and his supporters eat it up. We already know he always lies about his crowd size because he's more insecure than a 14-year-old girl at the homecoming dance.

He lied about the number of people who died in PR after Maria. He had some rally in West Virginia when he said X number of steel mills reopened, when none had, he lied about pushing an immigration bill in Congress, he lied about payments to the porn star by saying he knew nothing about them, he lied about there being rioting in California about sanctuary cities, he lied about some egregious seven-figure number of illegal immigrants voting for Clinton, he lied about being the first Republican to win Wisconsin since 1952, he lied about passing the first tax cuts since Reagan. I could probably come back and add to this list at the end of the day.

All politicians lie, but lying is part of who he is. He has such low regard for his supporters that he lies to their faces every day. And they don't care. It's creepy how they will believe literally anything he says without question. And sad.

IDGAF about him banging the pornstar. Everyone has known he's a sleazy scumbag for years, so it's not like that changes anyone's opinion.
you sound like a titty baby repeating the same mantra in every thread you possibly can.
This is just the typical forum 16 response when you have no response. Just say "ha ha triggered cry baby liberal" or whatever.
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Yep, which means it's time to relocate this thread to the Politics forum echo chamber so they can continue their circle jerk in peace.
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I see TF91 is too scared to come back to forum 16 after all of his conspiracy theories about perp walks and Trump going down never came to pass but he isn't afraid to sling his drivel on another board with less worry about getting his skull caved in like the old days.
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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P.C. Principal said:

Ragoo said:

P.C. Principal said:

Rojo Grande said:

aTm FAN said:

Trump is a compulsive liar.


The last I heard, he campaigned on 38 different things he wanted to accomplish and has taken care of about 32-34 of them.

What has he compulsively lied about? Sex with a porn actress?
Watch any of his rallies. He regularly says things that are straight-up false and his supporters eat it up. We already know he always lies about his crowd size because he's more insecure than a 14-year-old girl at the homecoming dance.

He lied about the number of people who died in PR after Maria. He had some rally in West Virginia when he said X number of steel mills reopened, when none had, he lied about pushing an immigration bill in Congress, he lied about payments to the porn star by saying he knew nothing about them, he lied about there being rioting in California about sanctuary cities, he lied about some egregious seven-figure number of illegal immigrants voting for Clinton, he lied about being the first Republican to win Wisconsin since 1952, he lied about passing the first tax cuts since Reagan. I could probably come back and add to this list at the end of the day.

All politicians lie, but lying is part of who he is. He has such low regard for his supporters that he lies to their faces every day. And they don't care. It's creepy how they will believe literally anything he says without question. And sad.

IDGAF about him banging the pornstar. Everyone has known he's a sleazy scumbag for years, so it's not like that changes anyone's opinion.
you sound like a titty baby repeating the same mantra in every thread you possibly can.
This is just the typical forum 16 response when you have no response. Just say "ha ha triggered cry baby liberal" or whatever.
most of what you consider a "lie" is just an exaggeration to rally a base. A crowd size misstatement is so insignificant it isn't even worth mentioning, but you did and the entertainment media does. That makes you sound like a petulant child, or titty baby.

If he requests troops to deploy to the ME over an event that doesn't happen ie; lies about, then you can ***** and moan because that is a significant intent of deception.
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P.C. Principal said:

Rojo Grande said:

aTm FAN said:

Trump is a compulsive liar.


The last I heard, he campaigned on 38 different things he wanted to accomplish and has taken care of about 32-34 of them.

What has he compulsively lied about? Sex with a porn actress?
Watch any of his rallies. He regularly says things that are straight-up false and his supporters eat it up. We already know he always lies about his crowd size because he's more insecure than a 14-year-old girl at the homecoming dance.


I didn't vote for the guy and won't in 2020, but this is why Trump may be a genius, or at least way ahead of the curve. He seems to understand the modern truth that facts don't matter. The goal is to win, gain influence, and enact your policies, not to be honest or trustworthy. Being rational and honest and composed, if your audience and constituents don't care, is not worth anything. There are NO COMPELLING REASONS TO TELL THE TRUTH. And every time he gets a reaction from the Left or the media, it HELPS him. He's so in their kitchen, it's ridiculous. They can't stop talking about him, getting outraged and triggered which half the country finds hilarious or somehow poetic. And why not enrage them when they're going to rail against him anyway? Trump could end hunger in America and he wouldn't get any praise from them anyway, so he might as well antagonize them.

Trump isn't alone on this, of course, just more extreme. Take Hillary's fake accents she put on when on the trail. Or her shaking hands in a soul food restaurant and claiming she kept a bottle of hot sauce in her purse. Everyone KNEW she was full of it but just let it slide. Two innocuous examples but illustrations of a fundamental difference between Trump and pretty much every politician. He's the same guy every day, in front of every audience. He's more genuine than any politician in DC, even if his true self is a total asshat.

It's the latest iteration to the Bill Clinton, "Yeah I did it... so what?" defense. It's only going to get worse, because it works.
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What a world we live in. I agree with most of what you said.

I think it boils down to this: most people know Trump is a lying scumbag. He showed us who he was well before he ran for president, during campaign season, and during his presidency. It's just a matter of who really cares about it and who doesn't.
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Trident 88 said:

Your definition of an excellent leader and mine are clearly very different.

We can discuss subjective opinions of how effective Trump's management style is ad nauseum, but that's not the same thing as leadership.

There is no doubt that Trump lacks many of the leadership qualities valued so highly by our military. Frankly, it's a shame that he managed on multiple occasions to avoid serving our country. He might have learned from example.

Even by the Aggie Corps' standards:
- Trump isn't a soldier.
- Trump is Putin's gimp rather than a statesman.
- And as a self proclaimed "pu**y grabber", Trump damn sure isn't a knightly gentleman.
Your silly statement about Trump being a Putin flunky pretty much outs you as the type of leftist that is having a serious case of cognitive dissonance about the fact that Trump is in the White House and the world has not ended.

You, like many, appear to have conflated "I don't like him" with "he isn't effective."

And the rubric you're using to evaluate Trump's leadership is rigid, inflexible, and customized to spit out the outcome you want because it validates your political views and perhaps your own life choices/experiences.
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AliasMan02 said:


I didn't vote for the guy and won't in 2020, but this is why Trump may be a genius, or at least way ahead of the curve. He seems to understand the modern truth that facts don't matter.
You can scream this at people until you are blue in the face but many will never listen or believe you are right. You are 100% correct and have your finger on the pulse of why Trump is effective (whether you love, hate, or are in-between on the guy).

He is better at setting the narrative on his own than any amount of coordinated or uncoordinated media effort, any current Democrat, or even Hollywood. Want a great example? What political issue are we talking about right now? Getting rid of birthright citizenship. It's on the front page of the papers. Its on every infotainment "news" channel, its plastered across the web. Why? Because Trump set that narrative in motion.

The broader point I'm trying to make is that the rubric for what many people in this thread insist should be used to define a "good" leader has changed and you've gotten to the heart of why that is so.
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By far the best President of my lifetime and that isn't even close. Say what you want to he doesn't back down.

We are under a huge burden now days with lazy ass liberal mindsets. We have given into a society of setting on their ass and *****ing about why they have nothing. The dems want to rebalance power take care of the poor and make all the successful people feel as they did something wrong to get here. Trump doesn't seem to endorse that.

To me all the democrats are rich scum telling the masses that they are treated poorly by all the rich republicans. They never let it be known they live the same high lifestyle. Let's be honest the dems are too lazy to work for nice things they just contrinue to campaign on false narratives. Trump has exposed them for what they are. I for one am Greatful.

Trump may be a bully but America needed that after the last skinny necked flimsy boy tried his hand at president. Maybe I like Trump so much as obama set the bar at ground zero. He has been the worst president since I've been alive. That includes high interest rates Carter. Obama sucked the life and fight out of the country. I for one am glad that Trump has put it back. Get off your ass and work if you want nice things. That is what he is for and i for one am proud we will have one last good president before we go down the crapper like Germany.

Trump is by far one of the only ones that could possibly help us past our crappy liberal lazy educational system we have in place today. I will always be able to feed my family. Good luck to all you concrete jungle boys if the demo machine continues its path to hell.
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Absolutely love him!!

It's like he has a laser pointer and every time he says something he gets the cats (media types, pseudo-intellectuals, Hollywood) to chase the little red dot all over the house, walls, floors, up on the couch....hours of entertainment!!
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Your silly statement about Trump being a Putin flunky pretty much outs you as the type of leftist that is having a serious case of cognitive dissonance about the fact that Trump is in the White House and the world has not ended.
I'm a Republican. I'm probably just not as far-right as you, but I'd expect this sort of lame response from a member of the echo chamber who believes Trump can do no wrong simply because he's driving the liberals crazy. In fact, my comment just highlights how Trump demonstrated his serious lack of experience as a statesman by embarrassing himself during his meeting with Putin.
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You, like many, appear to have conflated "I don't like him" with "he isn't effective."
Again, you are wrong. I haven't argued that he's ineffective. He's certainly no less effective than the majority of his predecessors.
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And the rubric you're using to evaluate Trump's leadership is rigid, inflexible, and customized to spit out the outcome you want because it validates your political views and perhaps your own life choices/experiences.
Again, leadership is not the same thing as management. That shouldn't be too difficult a concept for you to grasp. My "rubric" is what I was taught as a Marine. If you find that inflexible, maybe it's because you're a snowflake.
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Trident 88 said:

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Your silly statement about Trump being a Putin flunky pretty much outs you as the type of leftist that is having a serious case of cognitive dissonance about the fact that Trump is in the White House and the world has not ended.
I'm a Republican. I'm probably just not as far-right as you, but I'd expect this sort of lame response from a member of the echo chamber who believes Trump can do no wrong simply because he's driving the liberals crazy. In fact, my comment just highlights how Trump demonstrated his serious lack of experience as a statesman by embarrassing himself during his meeting with Putin.
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You, like many, appear to have conflated "I don't like him" with "he isn't effective."
Again, you are wrong. I haven't argued that he's ineffective. He's certainly no less effective than the majority of his predecessors.
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And the rubric you're using to evaluate Trump's leadership is rigid, inflexible, and customized to spit out the outcome you want because it validates your political views and perhaps your own life choices/experiences.
Again, leadership is not the same thing as management. That shouldn't be too difficult a concept for you to grasp. My "rubric" is what I was taught as a Marine. If you find that inflexible, maybe it's because you're a snowflake.
please, by all means, let us know what you were taught so we can shoot holes in your bias.

Your view of what leadership is or isn't, and unstated no less, isn't the only or truest form of leadership.
 
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