two trains passing in the night. racism, according to him (and many others) is not simply tit for tat. It doesn't work like that. So you can't simply say he's racist because of what he says (although he may still be very racist). Debate the points he's making, not what you perceive is his point.

My question is, who hired this waste of space in the first place?

his manifesto is kind of funny. he explains the cause and solution to his perceived problem yet he doesn't even realize it

Dr. Bowen’s administration spent a lot of money to bring him here. You can't argue that A&M has a bad image as far as race goes so bringing in a professor who specializes on race relations makes sense.

Keep in mind that while the majority of students might be conservative at A&M it's still a university and open ideas and the free exchange of them is a core value in all places of higher education.

So you don't agree with him or like what he has to say. Ignore him, or if you are a student, don't take his class. But to say we need to kick him off campus because you don't agree would be a mistake. Many of our very important scientific ideas were very controversial in there infancy. Just recognize it for what it is and nothing more.


[This message has been edited by CT'97 (edited 1/27/2004 11:13a).]

Separated at birth?

Prof Bonilla-Silva:


Actor Luis Guzman (Boogie Nights):

I'm Mexican-American and it's a well known secret within our "latino" bretheren that Puerto Ricans are the biggest jackholes of us all.
This guy should be shot.
Period.

I agree with the following:
* diversity of thought, ethnicity, culture, etc. is a good thing;
* learning to deal with difficult people is a necessary skill in life;
* universities are a place of learning, and the scope of learning is vast.

I have a problem with the hypocrisy of this man using a tactic (racial slur) that would land me (a 40ish, middle class male of Western European descent) in hot water. There is no righteous justification, even in the promotion or provocation of free or diverse thought, for using racial slurs to demean a culture.

Consider President Gates and the Board of Regents duly notified of my objection. Further consider this matter forwarded to all Aggies within my sphere of influence.

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if I wanted to sit through this class as an observer, would he allow it? Where is this class tought and what time?

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Keep in mind that while the majority of students might be conservative at A&M it's still a university and open ideas and the free exchange of them is a core value in all places of higher education.

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YES!

The problem with that is that there is a double standard.

Our current "diversity" movement isn't about diversity, it's about liberalization.

This man's views are seen as "diversity promoting," but if someone had the exact opposite view, they'd be a bigot, racist, or whatever - and groups would be coming down on the University.

If we ar REALLY after diversity - the free exchange of ideas - then his viewpoint is as valid as a viewpoint exactly the opposite of his, correct?

I don't agree with this joker, I don't agree with the stances of those who are as far "right" as this guy is "left," but if you're really after diversity, then both points of view must be accepted.

Hey,
I am all for diversity of ideas. However, if you are going to validate this guy's point of view as acceptable for tax payers to fund, then you know what kind of "American History X" types you are going to get for the other. I would just assume not have any prof under employment whose class room teachings include racial slurs and demagoguery against certain racial groups.

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This guy has said in his class that he cannot be fired unless he does something like sleeping with a student.

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Perhaps the ladies of TexAgs could set up a sting operation.


One semi-serious thought: If A&M and this country are as racist as he claims, then how'd he get his job?

[This message has been edited by Keegan99 (edited 1/27/2004 11:33a).]

If it wasn't for academia which tolerates or in some cases endorses this type of thinking, he would starve.

How is using racial slander and outright prejudice beneficial to A&M? If a white professor called Prairie View NI**ER LAND, he would never be able to teach in this country again!

Nobody has a scan of the syllabus that they could post or e-mail?

Working on it...will at least have it scanned in by tonight.

Of course, posting it would require for it to be hosted.

[This message has been edited by Mr. (edited 1/27/2004 12:00p).]

Bonilla-Silva's class is at 12:24-2:00pm on Tuesdays and Thursdays in the Bio-Chem Building (BICH) room #108 [on west campus].

Mr. - I will happily host it.

dkeegan at aggies dot com

ddp - weird

[This message has been edited by Reload8098 (edited 1/27/2004 12:52p).]

He drives a Haundai...

I began to get pissed off while I read this post, then I calmed down. I hope you guys fully understand that this is EXACTLY what Gates wants for A&M. If you think otherwise, you are fooling yourself. Gates is a yankee, leftist, with no ties or concerns about Texas A&M, it's heritage or history. All Gates wants to do is keep the PC gods happy by firing or destroying anything thats not PC, and hiring as many blacks, mexicans, and other minority faculty members, who will spew this rhetoric, as he can. A&M, thanks to Gates, is begging minority people to A&M, begging. Giving them entrance while more qualified students are denied. Gates will not consider his job done until the demographic breakdown of A&M is AT LEAST 50% minority.

I was excited at the prospect of Gates as the new president, and was tired of Bowen. But in hindsight, at least Bowen was an Aggie, and gave a rats a$$ about the school. Gates only cares about covering his a$$.

And if you think any of this will change, you are wrong. Gates will continue to cram minorites down the throat of A&M (whether minorities want to be crammed down the throat of A&M or not.)

there's a difference between teaching and pushing your agenda... this bozo falls in the latter category

What happened to him? Did mommy not pay enough attention?

"A school without football is in danger of deteriorating into a medieval study hall." - Vince Lombardi
"Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway." - John Wayne

Reload8098-
Excactly right. This is indoctrination, not education. Maybe "re-education"...

Keegan-
I just sent the syllabus in pdf

Maybe re-Neducation...

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But to say we need to kick him off campus because you don't agree would be a mistake.

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No, but it would be just cause to fire an individual for making racial slurs and comments that make for an uncomfortable learning environment. If he were a white prof. and were making racial slurs in class or talking about the impurification of American society due to overpopulation of hispanics or interracial marriages would your reaction be the same? If a prof had made statements about "sp*cks" when I was a student, it would have taken everything I had to not walk up and put a boot in his a$$! These same types of statements and teachings would have minority groups like LULAC and minority elected officials demanding the resignation or firing of such an individual if he were white and talking about minority groups. Why should this be any different?

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anybody here a fan of Lino Graglia, law prof at UT?

Yes. Any faculty that will take a stand against racial discrimination over at t.u. has cajones.

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I just find it is much easier to acknowledge that I am a "good" White Satan and to live my life accordingly, than it is to spend time/effort worrying about all this nonsense.

Who is Lino?

Thanks to Keegan for hosting. A PDF file is a tad large, so here is the link to the syllabus. http://keeganology.com/SOCI317.pdf

okay

I read the syllabus.

He curves. He is willing to work with you on a grade. This man is going to challenge you. Step up for the challenge.

[This message has been edited by Tanya 93 (edited 1/27/2004 2:04p).]

In the first paragraph of the syllabus it states "fanatics (religious, political, or otherwise) are advised NOT to take this class.

Would he be considered a racial fanatic and therefore should not be in his own class?

He's not even lecturing; the TA is.

He did use a nice and cheery font at the top of his syllabus.

RR ag, take a chill pill dude. tu in all of it's glorious "left" attitude is not 50% minority so I doubt I will ever live to see the day A&M is 50% minority. Also, show me one example of a more qualified(ie white) student denied because A&M specifically admitted an underqualified minority that did not meet A&M requirements. Before you respond, remember that the 10% rule has nothing to do with Pres Gates. Everyone is admitted under the same guidelines.

"Nothing could be sillier than we got good people here. We got the same cross-section of a**holes as anywhere." - Friday Night Lights

So despite the fact that he specifically states that he is not trying to convert anybody or present an "anti-white" perception, you still think that's all he's doing? Did you read this sylabis?

I really suggest that you step away from the extreme rhetoric as it rarely does anybody any good.

I'm not going stand up and defend what he's saying or teaching, but the man is a professor on this campus and deserves the respect that is due to that position.