Government Extend Mask Mandate 2 Weeks

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10:28a, 4/13/22
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Travel Mask Mandate Extended 2 More weeks

Just 2 more weeks....

Edit, title should read travel mandate...

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10:38a, 4/13/22
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11:50a, 4/13/22
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was in Bush airport on Saturday. I was shocked how many people were complying. I was one of just a few who were maskless in the terminal (not counting those who are magically COVID free and unable to spread the virus once they sat down at a restaurant chair).
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11:59a, 4/13/22
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12:42p, 4/13/22
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Uptick?

Our national averages have remained constant at around 29,000 cases per day for the last 3 weeks.

Really dumb decision.
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In reply to MAROON • 1:46p, 4/13/22
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MAROON said:
was in Bush airport on Saturday. I was shocked how many people were complying. I was one of just a few who were maskless in the terminal (not counting those who are magically COVID free and unable to spread the virus once they sat down at a restaurant chair).

Yeah I've flown about a dozen times in the last year (including this past weekend) and compliance hasn't waned a bit over that time from what I can tell. So dumb.
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1:48p, 4/13/22
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In two weeks they will see enough of an "uptick" to extend it further.

Oh and there's still no metric, statistic, or anything scientific tied to imposing or revoking the mask mandate.
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3:50p, 4/13/22
Didn't CDC admitted that the masks most people wore were ineffective against COVID? (Correct me if I am wrong) Unless you are wearing real N95 masks, and not those Chinese knockoffs, you might as well not wear any and breath the free air. For the past two years I think I saw less than 50 people wearing what resembled the N95 masks. Most were probably Chinese knockoffs, since the real N95 masks continues to be in short supply.

Not to mention the fact that the moment the flight attendants started handing out food and water, all masks come off. I can never understand that logic. It's almost as if the virus miraculously stopped being contagious the moment we started eating or sit down in a restaurant.
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In reply to Aston94 • 6:01p, 4/13/22
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Uptick?

Our national averages have remained constant at around 29,000 cases per day for the last 3 weeks.

Really dumb decision.
There has been and uptick from our lows. And it will likely continue to rise over the next few weeks due to the BA2 variant.

However, whether or not continuing the travel mask mandate will make any difference is a dubious proposition.
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5:59p, 4/14/22
I don't even miss flying anymore.
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3:20p, 4/15/22
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Stupid.
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10:10p, 4/15/22
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This, from the New York Times and top of Google search tells me all I need to know.

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9:43a, 4/18/22
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My next flight is in late May for a graduation and I choose to believe the mask mandate will finally be dropped.

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1:16p, 4/18/22
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https://apnews.com/article/3408cc825582126fbda5fbedd3a49dd3

Getting on a plane in two hours…so you're saying there's a chance?!?
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1:21p, 4/18/22
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I'm flying tomorrow so this hits close to home.
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In reply to wildmen09 • 1:31p, 4/18/22
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wildmen09 said:
https://apnews.com/article/3408cc825582126fbda5fbedd3a49dd3

Getting on a plane in two hours…so you're saying there's a chance?!?


Good luck!
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In reply to wildmen09 • 3:10p, 4/18/22
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wildmen09 said:
https://apnews.com/article/3408cc825582126fbda5fbedd3a49dd3

Getting on a plane in two hours…so you're saying there's a chance?!?
We have a bunch of employees headed to Cali tomorrow and they are giddy that they wont be wearing masks.
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7:00p, 4/18/22
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UPDATE*** Mask mandate repealed on AA, I get to be on the first flight to get rid of the mandate
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10:01p, 4/18/22
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Husband flies out tomorrow morning and he's excited, to say the least!
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11:58p, 4/18/22
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So mask questioning is ok again? Or no?
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6:54a, 4/19/22
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Any update on not wearing a mask yet? I for one hate them.
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In reply to DadHammer • 7:05a, 4/19/22
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DadHammer said:
Any update on not wearing a mask yet? I for one hate them.


Yes, TSA dropped the requirement yesterday.
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7:34a, 4/19/22
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TSA and the administration were forced to drop the requirement. They could have done it on their own but never did.
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12:56p, 4/19/22
Going to board an AA flight in a few minutes. Happy that the mask mandate was removed.
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2:01p, 4/19/22
Now let's educate hospitals and doctors' offices. So many aren't getting medical care because those can't be trusted anymore.
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In reply to Bucketrunner • 4:58p, 4/19/22
I've been mask free in my office for over a year. My patients were so sick of wearing them it was great to tell them to take it off.
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In reply to aggiederelict • 7:11p, 4/19/22
A lot have been and more every day. We've seen a lot of specialist lately, who immediately remove their masks and ask us to as soon as the exam room door is closed. Nurse truly hate it. However, large hospital corporations are still clinging to it. We have elderly neighbors who desperately need tests who will not get them if they have to wear a useless mask.

I totally get it. Funny how the older folks figured it out early in the game.
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6:56a, 4/20/22
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Looks like the White House will appeal if the CDC says it should? The news sites haven't been clear if the admin will appeal or is just thinking about it.
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In reply to SwigAg11 • 9:01a, 4/20/22
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SwigAg11 said:
Looks like the White House will appeal if the CDC says it should? The news sites haven't been clear if the admin will appeal or is just thinking about it.
Sounds like a statement designed more to take the temperature of the decision nationally vs actually wanting the CDC's input. They know the CDC wants to keep the masks. But they also know this is a very unpopular policy and want to see how people are reacting to it. With elections looming, I doubt there is a push to appeal if they truly see potential significant push back from the population as a whole. Maybe I am wrong but this administration truly is looking at popularity issues and have a big upcoming election. With the evidence that cloth masks are truly useless and the increases in number of cases not having a number subsequent and significant rise on hospitals getting full, it would seem wise here from a policy standpoint to stand down and let it be. The backlash to reinstating the mandate would be pretty bad....
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In reply to Capitol Ag • 9:54a, 4/20/22
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All masks are truly useless in this context, not just cloth masks. Mandating everyone wear masks will never result in an operating room environment. It results in people pulling a mask out of their pocket and wearing it improperly and intermittently
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In reply to Capitol Ag • 11:14a, 4/20/22
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Capitol Ag said:
SwigAg11 said:
Looks like the White House will appeal if the CDC says it should? The news sites haven't been clear if the admin will appeal or is just thinking about it.
Sounds like a statement designed more to take the temperature of the decision nationally vs actually wanting the CDC's input. They know the CDC wants to keep the masks. But they also know this is a very unpopular policy and want to see how people are reacting to it. With elections looming, I doubt there is a push to appeal if they truly see potential significant push back from the population as a whole. Maybe I am wrong but this administration truly is looking at popularity issues and have a big upcoming election. With the evidence that cloth masks are truly useless and the increases in number of cases not having a number subsequent and significant rise on hospitals getting full, it would seem wise here from a policy standpoint to stand down and let it be. The backlash to reinstating the mandate would be pretty bad....
I agree with this assessment. They're trying to find a way to say they did away with the masks in a pseudo-scientific manner but not alienating swing voters in November who just don't want to wear masks any more. And to try to do so without backpedaling on the constant mask messaging of the last two years.
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In reply to GAC06 • 12:24p, 4/20/22
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GAC06 said:
All masks are truly useless in this context, not just cloth masks. Mandating everyone wear masks will never result in an operating room environment. It results in people pulling a mask out of their pocket and wearing it improperly and intermittently


Agree. Just referencing the Bangladesh study, which was the only somewhat good study ever made on masking, and it showed the cloth masks were useless. Since the majority wear these anyway, it's not that big a change. Anyone wanting to mask can do so with an actual N95 that might give them some protection IF worn properly and replaced often. And we all know most people won't even do that withN95s. So those are not effective either in reality. This has always been an "appear to look safe" situation and not an exact, scientifically designed solution. As has been said before, theater. Why set your administration up for failure over this? I would advise POTUS to let it be, unless they appeal on the basis of precedent and then announce they are repealing the mandate anyway to try to at least maintain the authority for the future. A judge could overturn and Biden still drop the mandate anyway. We shall see...
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In reply to Capitol Ag • 12:53p, 4/20/22
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Capitol Ag said:
GAC06 said:
All masks are truly useless in this context, not just cloth masks. Mandating everyone wear masks will never result in an operating room environment. It results in people pulling a mask out of their pocket and wearing it improperly and intermittently


Agree. Just referencing the Bangladesh study, which was the only somewhat good study ever made on masking, and it showed the cloth masks were useless. Since the majority wear these anyway, it's not that big a change. Anyone wanting to mask can do so with an actual N95 that might give them some protection IF worn properly and replaced often. And we all know most people won't even do that withN95s. So those are not effective either in reality. This has always been an "appear to look safe" situation and not an exact, scientifically designed solution. As has been said before, theater. Why set your administration up for failure over this? I would advise POTUS to let it be, unless they appeal on the basis of precedent and then announce they are repealing the mandate anyway to try to at least maintain the authority for the future. A judge could overturn and Biden still drop the mandate anyway. We shall see...
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In reply to Capitol Ag • 2:27p, 4/20/22
Capitol Ag said:
GAC06 said:
All masks are truly useless in this context, not just cloth masks. Mandating everyone wear masks will never result in an operating room environment. It results in people pulling a mask out of their pocket and wearing it improperly and intermittently


Agree. Just referencing the Bangladesh study, which was the only somewhat good study ever made on masking, and it showed the cloth masks were useless. Since the majority wear these anyway, it's not that big a change. Anyone wanting to mask can do so with an actual N95 that might give them some protection IF worn properly and replaced often. And we all know most people won't even do that withN95s. So those are not effective either in reality. This has always been an "appear to look safe" situation and not an exact, scientifically designed solution. As has been said before, theater. Why set your administration up for failure over this? I would advise POTUS to let it be, unless they appeal on the basis of precedent and then announce they are repealing the mandate anyway to try to at least maintain the authority for the future. A judge could overturn and Biden still drop the mandate anyway. We shall see...


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6:03p, 4/20/22
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The CDC said Wednesday that it requested the Justice Department to proceed with an appeal of a ruling that lifted a travel mask mandate.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/20/cdc-asks-justice-department-to-appeal-ruling-that-lifted-travel-mask-mandate.html



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