Hydroxychloroquine

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AgRebel08
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What is the dosage?
aggierogue
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AgRebel08 said:

What is the dosage?
Not a doc, but my wife and I were prescribed 400-800mg twice daily for 3 days when we had Covid.
We had 200mg tablets.
Sapper Redux
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AgRebel08 said:

What is the dosage?


It doesn't work for Covid and may cause harm. Don't take it for Covid.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2022926
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2016638
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2772922
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2779044
TheMasterplan
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Agree it doesn't work but "may cause harm" is fesrmongerinf.

Vaccines "may cause harm" as well.
01agtx
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You do you. Many doctors use it successfully.
gunan01
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Lol…..no
snowdog90
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AgRebel08 said:

What is the dosage?


Ivermectin works better. I'm taking my prophylactic dose as we speak. Healthy as a horse, stopping the spread.
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snowdog90 said:

AgRebel08 said:

What is the dosage?


Ivermectin works better. I'm taking my prophylactic dose as we speak. Healthy as a horse, stopping the spread.


Unless you have worms, Ivermectin doesn't help with Covid.
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gunan01 said:

Lol…..no


Lol. Ok.
snowdog90
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Sapper Redux said:

snowdog90 said:

AgRebel08 said:

What is the dosage?


Ivermectin works better. I'm taking my prophylactic dose as we speak. Healthy as a horse, stopping the spread.


Unless you have worms, Ivermectin doesn't help with Covid.


WRONG!!

https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/
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snowdog90 said:

Sapper Redux said:

snowdog90 said:

AgRebel08 said:

What is the dosage?


Ivermectin works better. I'm taking my prophylactic dose as we speak. Healthy as a horse, stopping the spread.


Unless you have worms, Ivermectin doesn't help with Covid.


WRONG!!

https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/


That seems like a totally legitimate site for medical information
DadHammer
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Why do so many care if people try HCQ or Ivermectin?

If it helps at all who cares. They are both harmless drugs that have been in use for decades.

Just stop it.
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snowdog90 said:

Sapper Redux said:

snowdog90 said:

AgRebel08 said:

What is the dosage?


Ivermectin works better. I'm taking my prophylactic dose as we speak. Healthy as a horse, stopping the spread.


Unless you have worms, Ivermectin doesn't help with Covid.


WRONG!!

https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/


This is a meta analysis of every legitimate study done on Ivermectin in Covid patients. Patients from areas with endemic parasites do get some benefit from Ivermectin because it kills a serious co-morbidity. It does nothing for people in the developed world.

https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-148845/v1
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Sapper Redux said:

DadHammer said:

Why do so many care if people try HCQ or Ivermectin?

If it helps at all who cares. They are both harmless drugs that have been in use for decades.

Just stop it.


They're used as excuses for avoiding legitimate treatments that prevent serious illness or death.


What legitimate treatments are you referring to?
snowdog90
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Sapper Redux said:

snowdog90 said:

Sapper Redux said:

snowdog90 said:

AgRebel08 said:

What is the dosage?


Ivermectin works better. I'm taking my prophylactic dose as we speak. Healthy as a horse, stopping the spread.


Unless you have worms, Ivermectin doesn't help with Covid.


WRONG!!

https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/


This is a meta analysis of every legitimate study done on Ivermectin in Covid patients. Patients from areas with endemic parasites do get some benefit from Ivermectin because it kills a serious co-morbidity. It does nothing for people in the developed world.

https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-148845/v1


Here is a link to Dr. Kory testifying in front of congress. Actual data, unlike salute the vaccine, who constantly says "safe and effective" for the vaccine as it's efficacy wanes, boosters are needed, and more and more people get myocarditis, blood clots, and die frim the vaccines.
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TheMasterplan said:

Agree it doesn't work but "may cause harm" is fesrmongerinf.

Vaccines "may cause harm" as well.


Can you please translate fesrmongerinf for me? Just here to learn more about Q
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Whatever the choice, either ivermectin or HCQ are both great choices for prevention and early treatment therapeutics.

Dosages will vary for either prevention or early treatment. Ivermectin dosage will vary based on weight. Get a doc who treats covid early and knows how to use it.
DadHammer
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That is total BS. The large majority of people over 40 are Vaccinated or have already had Covid once or twice even.
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AgRebel08 said:

What is the dosage?
You can probably save yourself from all the comments if you substitute Quercetin for Hydroxycloroquine. Hope you are taking it with zinc and C. It might be more helpful to see studies that are only from this year?

https://c19early.com

We had a prescription for 400mg a day (200mg 2 times a day) for 5 days with Azithromycin and zinc. However, we chose to use Ivermectin+ instead, which is the only other treatment (not Remdesivir) that the NIH has been evaluating for at least the past 6 months and hasn't recommended against. They must not be aware that it can only be used for worms or only in developing countries.
Sapper Redux
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01agtx said:

Sapper Redux said:

DadHammer said:

Why do so many care if people try HCQ or Ivermectin?

If it helps at all who cares. They are both harmless drugs that have been in use for decades.

Just stop it.


They're used as excuses for avoiding legitimate treatments that prevent serious illness or death.


What legitimate treatments are you referring to?


Vaccines in particular and monoclonal antibodies.
Sapper Redux
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DadHammer said:

That is total BS. The large majority of people over 40 are Vaccinated or have already had Covid once or twice even.


There are plenty who haven't had either and are attempting to avoid vaccination by using treatments not approved for Covid, that are not antiviral medications, and that have not shown any proven efficacy.
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That's just not true. Not that many people are unvaccinated or not recovered from Covid over 40.

Plus it is their choice. The vaccine only limits symptoms it doesn't stop infection or the spread.

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BamaAggies said:

AgRebel08 said:

What is the dosage?
You can probably save yourself from all the comments if you substitute Quercetin for Hydroxycloroquine. Hope you are taking it with zinc and C. It might be more helpful to see studies that are only from this year?

https://c19early.com

We had a prescription for 400mg a day (200mg 2 times a day) for 5 days with Azithromycin and zinc. However, we chose to use Ivermectin+ instead, which is the only other treatment (not Remdesivir) that the NIH has been evaluating for at least the past 6 months and hasn't recommended against. They must not be aware that it can only be used for worms or only in developing countries.


Ibuprofen works better as an anti inflammatory than Quercetin and I don't see anyone claiming Advil is a miracle Covid treatment. Vitamin C is water soluble, so the second your body gets too much it either pisses it out or it comes out the other end while giving you cramps and headaches. It may also interfere with certain medications on it's way out. It makes no sense to load up on vitamin C. Zinc as well has no discernible impact on Covid. It may have a role in helping with mild viruses, but the evidence isn't there for Covid. If you do take it, don't use a nasal spray. Zinc has been linked to permanent loss of smell.

Azithromycin is a potent antibiotic used for bacterial pneumonia. It has some gnarly side effects, however, including lengthening the heart's QT interval and perhaps leading to Torsades des Pointes in some patients. I wouldn't take it due to possibilities for increasing bacterial resistance and side effects unless if has a proven benefit. It doesn't: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2782166

Also, the NIH is not recommending the use of Ivermectin. They just haven't ruled it out yet. Why weren't you taking Remdesivir, since it is approved by the NIH?
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DadHammer said:

That's just not true. Not that many people are unvaccinated or not recovered from Covid over 40.

Plus it is their choice. The vaccine only limits symptoms it doesn't stop infection or the spread.




The vaccine is not as effective against the variants. However, it does still limit infection and spread. It also has significant benefits on mortality and significant infection leading to long term effects.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmc2106757
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abl9551
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2786039
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmc2107717
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snowdog90 said:

Sapper Redux said:

snowdog90 said:

Sapper Redux said:

snowdog90 said:

AgRebel08 said:

What is the dosage?


Ivermectin works better. I'm taking my prophylactic dose as we speak. Healthy as a horse, stopping the spread.


Unless you have worms, Ivermectin doesn't help with Covid.


WRONG!!

https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/


This is a meta analysis of every legitimate study done on Ivermectin in Covid patients. Patients from areas with endemic parasites do get some benefit from Ivermectin because it kills a serious co-morbidity. It does nothing for people in the developed world.

https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-148845/v1


Here is a link to Dr. Kory testifying in front of congress. Actual data, unlike salute the vaccine, who constantly says "safe and effective" for the vaccine as it's efficacy wanes, boosters are needed, and more and more people get myocarditis, blood clots, and die frim the vaccines.


Actual data shows that Ivermectin doesn't do anything for Covid unless you have a concurrent parasitic infection. In which case, absolutely take Ivermectin, but for the worms, not the Covid. What are your sources for more myocarditis, blood clots, and deaths from the vaccines? And how do the side effects compare to the same consequences from Covid itself?
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You just don't get it do you? Not trying to be mean here.

But no one cares about that. It's a personal choice issue. There are studies on both sides. They don't matter either.

This is almost a free country. Others can counter every study you post. Plus the way the government has lied about just about everything and mandated that people go home and wait to die with absolutely no treatment was terrible in the beginning.

There actually was death before Covid.

We should be more concerned with who developed this virus and how it escaped from the lab so we can prevent this in the future. We were lucky it wasn't worse.
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DadHammer said:

You just don't get it do you? Not trying to be mean here.

But no one cares about that. It's a personal choice issue. There are studies on both sides. They don't matter either.

This is almost a free country. Others can counter every study you post. Plus the way the government has lied about just about everything and mandated that people go home and wait to die with absolutely no treatment was terrible in the beginning.

There actually was death before Covid.

We should be more concerned with who developed this virus and how it escaped from the lab so we can prevent this in the future. We were lucky it wasn't worse.


There aren't "studies on both sides." There are multiple high-quality, well-structured research studies on one side and anecdotes, fabricated evidence, or studies with serious confounding issues on the other side. With a virus and with drugs like antibiotics, the actions of individuals have an impact on others and our long term ability to treat certain conditions and bacteria. That's why it's important to use good research to address treatment protocols.

The government has absolutely made mistakes, but that's expected with novel viruses. When you have an unknown, you try to address it using best practices. Sometimes that causes more harm than intended simply because of a lack of information.

And you seem convinced this is all a conspiracy, so I'm not sure how much any of this can actually get through. The evidence isn't great for a lab leak hypothesis, and yet you're treating it as a certainty.
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I can find doctors in every city in Texas that are actually treating people with covid, in the early outpatient setting, but people still want to come on here and tell everybody to do nothing until they are sick enough to need the ER.
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BamaAggies said:

AgRebel08 said:

What is the dosage?
You can probably save yourself from all the comments if you substitute Quercetin for Hydroxycloroquine. Hope you are taking it with zinc and C. It might be more helpful to see studies that are only from this year?

https://c19early.com

We had a prescription for 400mg a day (200mg 2 times a day) for 5 days with Azithromycin and zinc. However, we chose to use Ivermectin+ instead, which is the only other treatment (not Remdesivir) that the NIH has been evaluating for at least the past 6 months and hasn't recommended against. They must not be aware that it can only be used for worms or only in developing countries.
My doctor said Hydroxychloroquine works in the same manner of Quercetin but is better. I was taking zinc and quercetin before I saw him after I tested positive, but the hydroxychloroquine is a better option. They explained the use, but I can't remember the details.

Dr. Peter McCullough (very credentialed physician) also discusses Hydroxychloroquine and says it's been one of the best drugs used around the world. He also talks about Ivermectin as well and how numerous countries have used Ivermectin to treat Covid including Japan, Mexico, India and many others. According to him and other doctors, there's a concerted effort in the US to vilify both drugs in an effort to push vaccines, so it comes down to who and what you believe. I'm not saying he or any of these other doctors praising these medications are right in their claims. You have to make your decisions, but there are MANY doctors prescribing these drugs not just here but all over the world.

My wife and I were both prescribed Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin (among several other supplements). We didn't die from using them, and both of us are Covid survivors.
aggierogue
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Are you a doctor?
Sapper Redux
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Japan doesn't recommend the use Ivermectin. That's a myth. One doctor who chairs a voluntary medical association in Tokyo recommended it. And India is a country with endemic parasitic infections. Even then, they've stopped recommending it be prescribed (they've also dropped recommending HCQ).
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aggierogue said:

Are you a doctor?


No. I'm not claiming to be. That's why I'm linking to high quality research done by medical experts.
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Sapper Redux said:

aggierogue said:

Are you a doctor?


No. I'm not claiming to be. That's why I'm linking to high quality research done by medical experts.
You're making statements of fact and telling people to ignore advice given by their doctors.
GAC06
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Merry Christmas spent arguing with strangers about covid drugs
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01agtx said:

I can find doctors in every city in Texas that are actually treating people with covid, in the early outpatient setting, but people still want to come on here and tell everybody to do nothing until they are sick enough to need the ER.


Actually, many people are suggesting they do something completely safe and effective well before they need the ER…
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