Vaccinated persons may be protected from Covid for a short period, but their risk of death from all causes is double that of the unvaccinated. Here are the stats from England. A German study from a few days ago confirms these facts from 16 different German states that keep such stats. Don't take the vaccination unless you are already a sick, old, or obese MF.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland

https://www.skirsch.com/covid/GermanAnalysis.pdf

You think that may be because majority of the people getting vaccinated are old and/or have pre-existing health conditions?

Are we really graduating people this dumb?

bangobango said:

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You think that may be because majority of the people getting vaccinated are old and/or have pre-existing health conditions?

Are we really graduating people this dumb?

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Stop using critical thinking and it'll all make sense.

bangobango said:

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You think that may be because majority of the people getting vaccinated are old and/or have pre-existing health conditions?

Are we really graduating people this dumb?

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Did you even look at the stats you moron? It is all people under 60 in England. The German study breaks it down even further. You keep thinking there are no long-term risks even though all evidence suggests otherwise. I already stated the aged, obese, and sick MFs should ignore. You must be one of them.

You have shown no evidence that those getting vaccinated are super sick MFs but you state that as fact. Show your work. I did.

NicosMachine said:

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bangobango said:

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You think that may be because majority of the people getting vaccinated are old and/or have pre-existing health conditions?

Are we really graduating people this dumb?

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Did you even look at the stats you moron? It is all people under 60 in England. The German study breaks it down even further. You keep thinking there are no long-term risks even though all evidence suggests otherwise. I already stated the aged, obese, and sick MFs should ignore. You must be one of them.

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So, I know you think you stumbled onto something big here and that everybody is going to be like "holy ****, the vaccine is killing people in unexpected ways!"

But, what most people are going to understand is that a study of people between the ages of TEN YEARS OLD and SIXTY YEARS OLD is going to have a lot of people near the sixty years old getting vaccinated and not very many people near the ten years old getting vaccinated.

They're also going to understand that 40, 50 and 60 year olds die at a lot higher rate in general than 10, 20, and 30 year olds. And that the further you move to the right on that age curve, the higher both your risk of dying become as well as your likelihood of getting vaccinated.

They're also going to understand that a lot of the 10, 20, and 30 year olds that get vaccinated are those that already have significant pre-existing health conditions that already made them a higher risk of dying than others the same age without those conditions.

bangobango said:

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NicosMachine said:

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bangobango said:

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You think that may be because majority of the people getting vaccinated are old and/or have pre-existing health conditions?

Are we really graduating people this dumb?

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Did you even look at the stats you moron? It is all people under 60 in England. The German study breaks it down even further. You keep thinking there are no long-term risks even though all evidence suggests otherwise. I already stated the aged, obese, and sick MFs should ignore. You must be one of them.

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So, I know you think you stumbled onto something big here and that everybody is going to be like "holy ****, the vaccine is killing people in unexpected ways!"

But, what most people are going to understand is that a study of people between the ages of TEN YEARS OLD and SIXTY YEARS OLD is going to have a lot of people near the sixty years old getting vaccinated and not very many people near the ten years old getting vaccinated.

They're also going to understand that 40, 50 and 60 year olds die at a lot higher rate in general than 10, 20, and 30 year olds. And that the further you move to the right on that age curve, the higher both your risk of dying become as well as your likelihood of getting vaccinated.

They're also going to understand that a lot of the 10, 20, and 30 year olds that get vaccinated are those that already have significant pre-existing health conditions that already made them a higher risk of dying than others the same age without those conditions.

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Show your work. Do have any evidence that those under 60 getting vaccinated are otherwise going to die at twice the rate of those that don't get vaccinated? Good luck and happy hunting. Those stats don't exist.

I like the post, then 3 minutes later another post, then 3 minutes later another. Just makes me picture a pinball machine on tilt.

Is this the type of study that considers someone who dies in a car accident while previously vaccinated a death?

Because if that's the case, as more people get vaccinated, more vaccinated people are going to die of unrelated causes.

Now if we're dealing with a major excess death over statistical norm and the increase in deaths from COVID isn't covering that spread, I would be interested in that data.

now THIS is how you drunk post

Is watching the 1984 Ghostbusters movie killing people?

Recent data show death rate of 10-59yr olds who have watched the 1984 Ghostbuster Movie is 2x higher than those who have watched the 2021 Ghostbuster movie

I don't know how to explain this other than movie-caused mortality pic.twitter.com/1IOAs5G68g

— Prof Jeffrey S Morris (@jsm2334) November 23, 2021

When grouped by age it turns out that every single age demographic is having better health outcomes for non-covid related mortality if they are vaccinated. It's almost like the data you show is perfectly grouped to mislead people.

We should stop selling ice cream since it is causing all those drownings

/s

This is an embarrassing post.

jopatura said:

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Is this the type of study that considers someone who dies in a car accident while previously vaccinated a death?

Because if that's the case, as more people get vaccinated, more vaccinated people are going to die of unrelated causes.

Now if we're dealing with a major excess death over statistical norm and the increase in deaths from COVID isn't covering that spread, I would be interested in that data.

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They measured deaths per 100,000 so it doesn't matter how many people have been vaccinated. The death rate of vaccinated persons from "all causes" is twice that of unvaccinated persons. The numbers are straight from England and German government authorities. Yet, there are people on this thread making unfounded excuses - trying to justify their previous demands that everyone get vaccinated.

I haven't really looked much at this study, but I did check and the vaccination was not approved in the UK for 10-18 until after this study was conducted, so that makes the whole thing suspect to me. They include 10-18 year old when they are essentially 100% unvaccinated. Why would you do that unless you are trying to manipulate the numbers?

Gordo14 said:

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When grouped by age it turns out that every single age demographic is having better health outcomes for non-covid related mortality if they are vaccinated. It's almost like the data you show is perfectly grouped to mislead people.

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That is not the case after some number of months as vaccine immunity wanes. There is something seriously wrong, or the German researchers are liars, when 2021 mortality rates exceed the prior four years even among the most vaccinated groups. The refusal to acknowledge this, as well as the unusual number of vaccinated, young, male, athletes experiencing cardiac events, is odd. Especially considering there were no long-term studies done on the effects of a completely novel "vaccination".

Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag said:

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Is watching the 1984 Ghostbusters movie killing people?

Recent data show death rate of 10-59yr olds who have watched the 1984 Ghostbuster Movie is 2x higher than those who have watched the 2021 Ghostbuster movie

I don't know how to explain this other than movie-caused mortality pic.twitter.com/1IOAs5G68g

— Prof Jeffrey S Morris (@jsm2334) November 23, 2021

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That's as savage a social media beating as you'll ever see. TV MA don't let the kids watch type stuff.

Good lord