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Found this really nice summary from CNET (no paywall) for those interested in the current data on risk of re-infection and how vaccines relate to wild immunity.

Coronavirus reinfection: What we know about immunity from having COVID and whether you can get it twice (msn.com)

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Another factor that might lead to underreported reinfection cases is that many second instances of COVID-19 are mild, which leads people to not realize they're infected again, virologist Theodora Hatziioannou told Healthline.

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Not necessarily, especially if you're testing within three months of first getting sick, according to Weissenbach. If someone tests positive for COVID-19, tests negative and then tests positive again, it's likely due to viral shedding of the original virus, he says.

"Many viruses can shed for quite some time after the illness has subsided," Weissenbach says. True reinfection with COVID-19 means that someone was infected with the virus on two different occasions, usually months apart. Long COVID-19, a syndrome that some people develop after having the coronavirus, is also not a reinfection or active infection.

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this was not cohorted or randomized. it was not even prospective. they picked a bunch of people who had had covid and then tested positive for covid again out of a database. there was no symptomatic confirm or any other validation. we have no idea if they were even clinically sick, and most probably were not.


control were just "people who had covid and then were not re-infected." they picked this group out of a hat. there's no matching for comorbidities etc that played such a massive role here and those that had them were more likely to get re-infected because that maps to weak immune systems. the selection bias on that alone almost certainly invalidates any study claims.

they then back screened for vaccination status.

this is a garbage methodology so riddled with confounds as to render a result this minor moot, especially in an N this small (240 cases vs 492 control). (less than 1/10th of 1% of all previous cases were re-infected. this is well within even just the error on the test.)

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The_Fox said:

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Had the rona before the vaccine was available. My functioning immune system handled it just fine. It was like mild allergies.

Now that the vaccine is available, why get it? My functioning immune system handled it fine before and now I have natural immunity plus a functioning immune system.

Concerns over COVId need to end. It's past time to function normally again and let the chips fall where they may.

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gunan01 said:

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SoupNazi2001 said:

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Gordo14 said:

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KidDoc said:

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Found this really nice summary from CNET (no paywall) for those interested in the current data on risk of re-infection and how vaccines relate to wild immunity.

Coronavirus reinfection: What we know about immunity from having COVID and whether you can get it twice (msn.com)

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Basically confirming the "messaging" that has been said all along. Natural immunity is good. Vaccine is better. Immunity is better than no immunity. Therefore vaccine before a person catches COVID should be the goal. Cue rant about Fauci, the MSM media, and masks.

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Lol that you think the vaccine is better than natural immunity. Plenty of studies prove that is false.

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This incorrect line has been parroted out there for awhile now. It's pretty clear that immunity from wild-type infection is unpredictable, whereas vaccine immunity on average is better and more predictable.

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traxter said:

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SoupNazi2001 said:

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Gordo14 said:

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KidDoc said:

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Found this really nice summary from CNET (no paywall) for those interested in the current data on risk of re-infection and how vaccines relate to wild immunity.

Coronavirus reinfection: What we know about immunity from having COVID and whether you can get it twice (msn.com)

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Basically confirming the "messaging" that has been said all along. Natural immunity is good. Vaccine is better. Immunity is better than no immunity. Therefore vaccine before a person catches COVID should be the goal. Cue rant about Fauci, the MSM media, and masks.

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Lol that you think the vaccine is better than natural immunity. Plenty of studies prove that is false.

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Vaccine is better for the shear reason that you don't actually get COVID and all the potential complications that come with, plus you don't spread it to others. If you have natural immunity, that's great, although we know that level of natural immunity will vary substantially based on severity of infection. Also, natural immunity + vaccine is the best according to all the data I've seen.

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ttha_aggie_09 said:

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Thanks for sharing! Pretty consistent with everything that's been released so far.

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Another factor that might lead to underreported reinfection cases is that many second instances of COVID-19 are mild, which leads people to not realize they're infected again, virologist Theodora Hatziioannou told Healthline.

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This part is also very consistent with the other studies. A lot of concern about the data being skewed because of a positive test months after initial infection

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Not necessarily, especially if you're testing within three months of first getting sick, according to Weissenbach. If someone tests positive for COVID-19, tests negative and then tests positive again, it's likely due to viral shedding of the original virus, he says.

"Many viruses can shed for quite some time after the illness has subsided," Weissenbach says. True reinfection with COVID-19 means that someone was infected with the virus on two different occasions, usually months apart. Long COVID-19, a syndrome that some people develop after having the coronavirus, is also not a reinfection or active infection.

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West Point Aggie said:

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The_Fox said:

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Had the rona before the vaccine was available. My functioning immune system handled it just fine. It was like mild allergies.

Now that the vaccine is available, why get it? My functioning immune system handled it fine before and now I have natural immunity plus a functioning immune system.

Concerns over COVId need to end. It's past time to function normally again and let the chips fall where they may.

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The beauty of choice for you. Don't want to get it because you feel it is unnecessary for you? …that's your call! Best wishes going forward!

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