Pregnancy and Covid

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txaggie_08
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My wife is 10 weeks pregnant and we're trying to decide what to do. Both of us are currently unvaxxed, but she's leaning towards getting vaxxed now due to hearing about pregnant women being at higher risk.

What's the risk to normal healthy 35 year olds? Can anyone find stats on chance of sever symptoms for someone in this age grouping?

Can anyone pull stats on exactly how much more at risk pregnant women and their fetuses are if they catch Covid?

Any stats on severe adverse reactions to the vaccine for pregnant women and the fetus?

Everything I find only says they're at heightened risk, but I want that risk quantified. Does it substantially change the odds for the mother and baby or not? I'd love to see some easily digestible data, but have had a hard time quantifying anything. All articles speak in generic terms, and I imagine it's on purpose.
Charpie
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What does her doctor say?
txaggie_08
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Her doctor of course recommends the vaccine with a few anecdotal stories. That's not what I'm asking. Everyone has anecdotes, and of course a doc is going to recommend it.

I'd like to see actual numbers, other than simply "substantially higher risk."
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You may be interested in this thread:

https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3220093
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txaggie_08 said:

Her doctor of course recommends the vaccine with a few anecdotal stories. That's not what I'm asking. Everyone has anecdotes, and of course a doc is going to recommend it.

I'd like to see actual numbers, other than simply "substantially higher risk."


CDC and FDA have plenty of research on this topic on their website with numbers and all. The conclusion, there was no statistical evidence for worse outcomes for those that got vaccinated. There was plenty of evidence of increased risks to both the woman and her unborn child if she were to catch COVID will pregnant. I'm on mobile so I'm not going to dig it up right now, but they really don't hide this information if you look for it.

Also recommend you read the link posted above.
jopatura
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I'm 16 weeks pregnant, that other thread breaks down the numbers a lot better.

My OB recommends that at least you get vaccinated to lower the chance of bringing it home, especially if you work in an office. She had similar anecdotes to your doctor I'm assuming. She's seen COVID do some nasty things that just aren't happening to vaccinated women.

Otherwise, make sure your OB will be willing to prescribe monoclonal antibodies if she's positive. Not all will since it's a grey area for pregnant women, moreso then the vaccine. All the homemade cocktails could make you have a worse outcome then the COVID itself, especially with Ivermectin and unregulated doses.
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txaggie_08 said:

Her doctor of course recommends the vaccine with a few anecdotal stories. That's not what I'm asking. Everyone has anecdotes, and of course a doc is going to recommend it.

I'd like to see actual numbers, other than simply "substantially higher risk."


I support your right to make the choice for y'all's self but based on this post I have to ask- why do you even have a doctor?

Im not trying to be a jerk- I just can't imagine having gotten into the delivery room and not having 100% trust in my wife's OB
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Charpie said:

What does her doctor say?


This is amazing to me. Everyone runs to YouTube, Facebook, and even a college football fan site to get information instead of the one professional in their life that's been trained and educated to give them all the answers they will ever need.
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spherical said:

txaggie_08 said:

Her doctor of course recommends the vaccine with a few anecdotal stories. That's not what I'm asking. Everyone has anecdotes, and of course a doc is going to recommend it.

I'd like to see actual numbers, other than simply "substantially higher risk."


I support your right to make the choice for y'all's self but based on this post I have to ask- why do you even have a doctor?


I was wondering this myself? I have heard the "well I know what my doc is gonna say" many times. What "numbers" and from where are going to make u feel better than ur doc who I assume you trust and knows your wife's health history? For what it's worth, my sister n law is a obgyn and I asked her if she recommends the vaccines for her pregnant patientsher reply was 100%.
bay fan
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Seriously? Did you ask her doctor?
Every pregnant woman I know is vaccinated. By the way, you should get vaccinates tomorrow to decrease the chance of giving it to your wife don't you think?
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My wife's is due any day now. She got vaccinated as soon as she cold in early spring.

So far no issues or any abnormalities with this pregnancy.

I just got my first shot last week, and only because work is mandating it. I had covid last year and didn't see the point until job was on the line.

Talk to her doc. Do what the docs recommend.
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spherical said:

txaggie_08 said:

Her doctor of course recommends the vaccine with a few anecdotal stories. That's not what I'm asking. Everyone has anecdotes, and of course a doc is going to recommend it.

I'd like to see actual numbers, other than simply "substantially higher risk."


I support your right to make the choice for y'all's self but based on this post I have to ask- why do you even have a doctor?

Im not trying to be a jerk- I just can't imagine having gotten into the delivery room and not having 100% trust in my wife's OB


A doctor is just a well paid trade. Do you do everything your mechanic tells you to do? Ever get a second opinion?

Seems like the OP may feel how many of the people on the fence feel, there is no willingness to teach and explain. Doctors are quick to recite anecdotal scary stories, but not explain their thought process and provide referrals for a second opinion.

I want a doctor to give me options, explain them, and then help follow through with my decisions on my health.
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fightingfarmer09 said:

spherical said:

txaggie_08 said:

Her doctor of course recommends the vaccine with a few anecdotal stories. That's not what I'm asking. Everyone has anecdotes, and of course a doc is going to recommend it.

I'd like to see actual numbers, other than simply "substantially higher risk."


I support your right to make the choice for y'all's self but based on this post I have to ask- why do you even have a doctor?

Im not trying to be a jerk- I just can't imagine having gotten into the delivery room and not having 100% trust in my wife's OB


A doctor is just a well paid trade. Do you do everything your mechanic tells you to do? Ever get a second opinion?

Seems like the OP may feel how many of the people on the fence feel, there is no willingness to teach and explain. Doctors are quick to recite anecdotal scary stories, but not explain their thought process and provide referrals for a second opinion.

I want a doctor to give me options, explain them, and then help follow through with my decisions on my health.


What would you like the doctor to say in this situation? There is absolutely no way to predict how your body is going to react to COVID while pregnant. If you are the picture of absolute perfect health, 10/10 dime piece, you never know how the cervix is going to react to an illness. Preterm labor in healthy women after an illness is a real thing.

Furthermore, all the treatments for COVID can be worse for the baby then just the vaccine. You really want to try to find an ivermectin prescription for your pregnant wife? You really want her to take a dozen pills, without knowing possible drug interactions to the placenta? Even the monoclonal antibodies are less recommended for pregnant women. My OB made it very clear that if I became positive, to call her and not my PCP just to make sure what I get would be the safest for my body and my pregnancy.

At the end of the day, COVID is more stressful on a pregnant women's body then a regular women, there could be consequences to the baby, and I'm sure all OB's (at minimum the practice) out there have dealt with some kind of loss due to COVID at this point. They may be even dealing with malpractice lawsuits since they couldn't predict the future on how COVID would affect the body.

What second opinion is out there that you want to seek?
txaggie_08
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Did you get the vaccine while pregnant? If so, at what week of pregnancy?
txaggie_08
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Thanks for the link.
jopatura
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I got it before we started trying. If I hadn't, I would have gotten it after my first trimester ended so about 14 weeks.

I will get the booster if it's recommended, so far my doctor hasn't recommended it because there's still a bunch of issues with the boosters.
GeographyAg
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txaggie_08 said:

Thanks for the link.
You're welcome.
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fightingfarmer09
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Seems like you did a better job than saying "get the vaccine Or you could be like that time saw a pregnant women die and 1 have a miscarriage."

Wasn't hard, was it?

The best doctors realize they are not smarter than many of their patients, only chose a different profession. That is a good doctor. As Dave Ramsey would say, "the heart of a teacher."
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fightingfarmer09 said:

spherical said:

txaggie_08 said:

Her doctor of course recommends the vaccine with a few anecdotal stories. That's not what I'm asking. Everyone has anecdotes, and of course a doc is going to recommend it.

I'd like to see actual numbers, other than simply "substantially higher risk."


I support your right to make the choice for y'all's self but based on this post I have to ask- why do you even have a doctor?

Im not trying to be a jerk- I just can't imagine having gotten into the delivery room and not having 100% trust in my wife's OB


A doctor is just a well paid trade. Do you do everything your mechanic tells you to do? Ever get a second opinion?

Seems like the OP may feel how many of the people on the fence feel, there is no willingness to teach and explain. Doctors are quick to recite anecdotal scary stories, but not explain their thought process and provide referrals for a second opinion.

I want a doctor to give me options, explain them, and then help follow through with my decisions on my health.
What you consider a well paid trade, I consider a highly educated consultant. If you don't understand the intelligence and dedication a person must have to become a physician nothing I type will change that. Doctors are quick to recite facts and people like you are quick to dismiss whatever they don't except in their far more limited knowledge.
spherical
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fightingfarmer09 said:

spherical said:

txaggie_08 said:

Her doctor of course recommends the vaccine with a few anecdotal stories. That's not what I'm asking. Everyone has anecdotes, and of course a doc is going to recommend it.

I'd like to see actual numbers, other than simply "substantially higher risk."


I support your right to make the choice for y'all's self but based on this post I have to ask- why do you even have a doctor?

Im not trying to be a jerk- I just can't imagine having gotten into the delivery room and not having 100% trust in my wife's OB


A doctor is just a well paid trade. Do you do everything your mechanic tells you to do? Ever get a second opinion?

Seems like the OP may feel how many of the people on the fence feel, there is no willingness to teach and explain. Doctors are quick to recite anecdotal scary stories, but not explain their thought process and provide referrals for a second opinion.

I want a doctor to give me options, explain them, and then help follow through with my decisions on my health.


Sure I get a second opinion.., from another mechanic.

And like I said, I support his decision to choose- it was the "of course the dr would say " comment as if he/she is just some shill that makes me wonder how you'd trust them to make critical decisions during the delivery.
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Throwing an anecdote in the mix, my wife got vaccinated around 30 weeks (first shot) after her OB recommended it. He was a bit more wait and see early in the spring, then as more data presented itself he thought we should go ahead.

She had zero side effects or complications and our little girl was born perfectly healthy in late May.
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Quote:

of course a doc is going to recommend it.
Sorry, this comment just cracks me up. "Of course all the most highly trained and educated professionals in the most advanced medical system in the world are going to unanimously recommend it, but I want to know what random people on a college football message board think"

Seriously though, the AAFP (family practice docs), ACOG (OBGYNs) and SMFM (high risk pregnancy subspecialists) all recommend COVID vaccination for pregnant women. That's literally every branch of medicine that takes care of pregnant people on a regular basis. As said above, whatever the short or long term risks of vaccination, the short and long term risks from COVID infection are much worse and more common. That's also just the direct effects. I had to deliver and take care of a woman with severe preeclampsia last November, because she was COVID positive. No other facility would accept transfer. I'm only supposed to be doing low risk OB out here in the middle of nowhere, but she and I were stuck together due to COVID. She wasn't even that sick from COVID, but that positive test was enough for every major medical center to deny transfer.
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bay fan
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Why don't you get vaccinated and cut her chances of being exposed while at home down significantly..it's your baby too and you can begin to care for it now in one easy fashion.
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Come one
Marsh
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GeographyAg said:

You may be interested in this thread:

https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3220093



That dude has no idea what he is talking about. He is clearly biased.
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