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This may sound crazy....some people in life just don't prefer to jump to medicine the first sign of a sniffle.

If you go to my house....we have VERY little medicine. What we have might actually be expired and is kid medicine. We mainly keep band-aids and sunscreen. Anything else is on a need-to-buy basis and usually we just "tough it out".

As far as "prefer contracting vs vaccine".....i think you can be neither> I 'prefer' to not catch COVID (just as I prefer to not get the vaccine) and I take some basic precautions to avoid catching it it but if I were to contract it I am comfortable, based on the scientific numbers using age and health profile, that I am likely to survive.

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I'd bet many who got vaccinated (myself included) are much the same way. The only thing I occasionally take is allergy medication.

In the case of the COVID vaccine it's been extensively tested and issued an EUA just like lots of other treatments. With my age and health I'd have pretty good odds to be fine, but as the vaccine pretty much guarantees a negligible outcome and made it easier to get back to living life in general it was a pretty easy decision for me to take it.

The difference is the variants. Measles does not mutate like the virus that causes covid does.

If the sarscov2 virus didn't mutate, you would probably be protected for a long time. Maybe forever - it isn't clear to me from what I've read whether we get re-infected with the other human coronaviruses because our immunity wanes or because they mutate. I've seen papers that seem to lean toward mutation being the reason.

Some people still get the measles after they been vaccinated, the efficacy numbers are similar to mRNA vaccines... roughly 98% efficacy for measles after two shots.

But the measles vaccine seems to give sterilizing immunity - meaning, your body has enough to work with that you don't get infected (vs infected but not symptomatic). Many of our vaccines do not give sterilizing immunity though, and that doesn't mean they aren't effective.

The unfortunate aspect is the Covid vaccine has been politicized and/or you have a bunch of tough guys.

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The unfortunate aspect is the Covid vaccine has been politicized and/or you have a bunch of tough guys.

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LOL that sort of talk just fans the flames.

So I have to be political or a tough guy? That is the only reason??

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The unfortunate aspect is the Covid vaccine has been politicized and/or you have a bunch of tough guys.

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LOL that sort of talk just fans the flames.

So I have to be political or a tough guy? That is the only reason??

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I mean... you posted this just a little while ago in this very thread.

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This may sound crazy....some people in life just don't prefer to jump to medicine the first sign of a sniffle.

If you go to my house....we have VERY little medicine. What we have might actually be expired and is kid medicine. We mainly keep band-aids and sunscreen. Anything else is on a need-to-buy basis and usually we just "tough it out".

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planoaggie123 said:

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The unfortunate aspect is the Covid vaccine has been politicized and/or you have a bunch of tough guys.

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LOL that sort of talk just fans the flames.

So I have to be political or a tough guy? That is the only reason??

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I mean... you posted this just a little while ago in this very thread.

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This may sound crazy....some people in life just don't prefer to jump to medicine the first sign of a sniffle.

If you go to my house....we have VERY little medicine. What we have might actually be expired and is kid medicine. We mainly keep band-aids and sunscreen. Anything else is on a need-to-buy basis and usually we just "tough it out".

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2 things:

1) He was claiming COVID vaccine hesitancy to be based on 2 things and I was pointing out his comments are inflammatory at best. He was mocking and you and he both know that.

2) Are we really at a point where being in overall generally decent health is a 'tough guy' thing? All I am saying is my family's history has long been low on medicine-first approach. Wife and I dont wake up, high five, and grunt because we have no medicine on hand, we have just always taken an approach that we can recover without utilizing medicine over 90% of the time. Sure...who knows what tomorrow brings. Maybe we get really sick and need chemo or surgery and we will gladly utilize modern medicine. Its just not our first approach and its not a tough guy thing. Maybe I shouldn't have said "tough it out" but effectively we do and I don't think that is wrong nor is it a statement of macho.

Cypo was trying to belittle people who don't utilize medicine frequently / take a pass on the vaccine as "tough guys" and that is just wrong. Its inflammatory. Its useless.

Let me be the first.

I'm glad I got covid rather than the shot!

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Let me be the first.

I'm glad I got covid rather than the shot!

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My daughter is going through the same thing right now. Vaccinated (moderna) in March and yet she still got it from unvaccinated co-workers. The thing she has going for her is she lives alone so she won't be infecting anyone else. Will she be fine? Probably but the fact is she would not be having to deal with this if those two just would have gotten vaccinated. I know it's your choice but when your choice affects others you need to take into consideration how it will effect others. So far she just has congestion.

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Do you or she know 100% she got it from the "unvaccinated co-workers?" Probably not, unless the only personal interaction she's had with the outside world in the last 17 months has been with the co-workers.

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She pretty much just goes to work and back home. Does Curbside for her groceries. Wears a mask in public indoors. Seven vaccinated in her office, three not. One of the three unvaccinated tested positive, 5 days later another test positive. Then 2 days after that my daughter test positive. Three days later the 3rd unvaccinated test positive. The co-workers that were vaccinated were not required to wear a mask. The unvaccinated were suppose to wear their mask but really didn't wear them much. So I would say it's safe to say she probably got it at work. The only other thing I can say is if you're not vaccinated it is highly likely you'll be getting it soon. Also going to add that she works in a essential industry so she's been going to work every day since this started, not that it matters.

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That sounds like a pretty sad existence.

I hope that once she is fully recovered she can start living life again.

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Let's dive in, shall we?

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I think I had asymptomatic covid

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The OP is proof that vaccines protect you from serious illness.

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Seems contradictory, but let's continue...

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And the high numbers in states with large unvaccinated populations like Florida and Arkansas prove what we've been saying all along.

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Florida ranks 24th in vaccination percentage, so no it doesn't prove anything.

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Now ICUs are filling up again

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https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/hospitalization-7-day-trend


Are they tho? Do you care about the other 91% of ICU beds taken up by other illnesses?

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And then we have people like Tucker Carlson who have gotten vaccinated but is persuading his audience of millions to distrust the scientists and not get vaccinated.... for ratings. How can we not be irritated by that?

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Same way we can be irritated by Kamala Harris saying this in the VP debate?

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Good post.

This clown and Gordo are on the complete opposite side of the so-called hyper-partisan F16 folk they love to criticize.

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I'm genuinely curious why some of you would prefer contracting COVID to the vaccine.

I'm also wondering how much testing those of you continuously referring to the vaccines as "experimental" have gone through.

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I agree man. Getting sick sucks and so I'd rather get the vaccine.

But I'm not a vaccine scold like many in this forum section. Just chill.

Also, OPs story isn't proof that he had less symptoms due to having the vaccine since many unvaccinated people who have had COVID had similar symptoms.

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My daughter is going through the same thing right now. Vaccinated (moderna) in March and yet she still got it from unvaccinated co-workers. The thing she has going for her is she lives alone so she won't be infecting anyone else. Will she be fine? Probably but the fact is she would not be having to deal with this if those two just would have gotten vaccinated. I know it's your choice but when your choice affects others you need to take into consideration how it will effect others. So far she just has congestion.

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Do you or she know 100% she got it from the "unvaccinated co-workers?" Probably not, unless the only personal interaction she's had with the outside world in the last 17 months has been with the co-workers.

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She pretty much just goes to work and back home. Does Curbside for her groceries. Wears a mask in public indoors. Seven vaccinated in her office, three not. One of the three unvaccinated tested positive, 5 days later another test positive. Then 2 days after that my daughter test positive. Three days later the 3rd unvaccinated test positive. The co-workers that were vaccinated were not required to wear a mask. The unvaccinated were suppose to wear their mask but really didn't wear them much. So I would say it's safe to say she probably got it at work. The only other thing I can say is if you're not vaccinated it is highly likely you'll be getting it soon. Also going to add that she works in a essential industry so she's been going to work every day since this started, not that it matters.

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That sounds like a pretty sad existence.

I hope that once she is fully recovered she can start living life again.

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Agreed. Perfect example of the damage the media and social media have done to people over the last 18 months for a disease with a 99.97% survival rate for most people, even before vaccines pushed that to 99.99%+.

Update:

Mild cough Tues 7/27. Fever of 101 Wed 7/28. Tested positive 7/28 PM. Took some Advil and went to bed. Woke up Thursday 7/29 with mild cough, no fever.

Since 7/29, basically felt 100% without meds. Banished to the upstairs of my house until coming back to work 8/6.

I had done a home rapid test on 7/28 that was a strong positive to confirm the test I had done at the urgent care center.

I had another test, so for Sh--s and Giggles I did another test on 8/5. Negative.

Interestingly, Thursday night 8/5 I lost most of my sense of smell. Very muted ability to smell and almost no taste. Still about half-strength sense of smell. I blew up one of our toilets yesterday, and my wife walked in the bathroom right after, and started complaining. I went back in there and could not smell anything or the Poo-Pourri she made me spray.

My wife (vaccinated, Moderna) and two kids (8,11) have not had so much as a sniffle yet.

My buddy in North Texas was stubborn and did not get vaccinated. He tested positive on the same day as me. On day 8 in a row with a fever (up to 104 at times according to him), he went to the ER. He was oxygenating okay so they sent him home. But it has kicked his butt. He has told me in hindsight he wishes he had gotten vaccinated. We are both similarly overweight. My BMI is about 31.

So my little study now is n=2, but I am personally glad I got vaccinated.

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Buddy now in ICU.

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I misspoke. He needs to be in ICU. They have been trying to transfer him for two days, even out of state, and there is nowhere for him to go, supposedly.

Buddy on a vent now. Prayers would be appreciated.

oh man. That's terrible to hear. I just found a girl I grew up with died last week. No Vacc. Another friend husband in ICU. No Vacc.

I was exposed 7/26. Tested positive (Binax home test) 8/2. Lost smell/taste 8/2. Felt like a sinus infection. 2 of 3 kids tested positive a few days later. They have minor congestion. Less than a common cold.

Gained muted taste back. Ultimate taste test: took down a massive gob of wasabi and didn't blink. Should be clear now but haven't taken 2nd test yet. Glad I got the vaccination. Prayers for your friend OP.

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Buddy on a vent now. Prayers would be appreciated.

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I would tell your buddy's wife to fight like hell to get them to do everything they can. When my 68 (67, I can't remember) year old diabetic step-dad got COVID last year, it put him on his ass. My mom took him to the hospital, they checked his O2 and sent him home the next day. He went back to the ER a couple days later and the same thing. Then he developed pneumonia and couldn't breathe worth chit. Taking a piss took everything out of him. She took him back to the ER and they admitted him again. But just like the last 2 times, they tried to release him, but my mom wouldn't allow it this time. She literally had a stroke fighting with the case manager to keep him in the hospital, so she wound up in the same hospital as him. Didn't stop her though. She kept on raising hell until the CEO of the hospital called her in her room to see what was going on. After that, they actually began treating him, and he walked out a few days later.

My mom worked in healthcare for almost 30 years and knew exactly what kind of chit they were pulling (he was on Medicare), but she wouldn't let them. If she didn't advocate for him, he would have died and COVID would have been the cause, but their lack of treating would have been the reason. While she was fighting with them, one of the nurses told her they measured his O2 and it was in the 70s.

Don't let them dismiss anything she thinks will work. She needs to be the squeaky wheel and never let up.

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oh man. That's terrible to hear. I just found a girl I grew up with died last week. No Vacc. Another friend husband in ICU. No Vacc.

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It's hit close to home in the past couple of days for me.

My wife's 75 year old unvaxxed uncle died at home yesterday. He was released from the hospital last week after recovering from a tough battle with covid. A blood clot and stroke got him at home.

Our A/C guy this morning said they unplugged his niece from life support overnight in Houston. She was in ICU for Covid. Unvaxxed also.

One of our employees has a brother on a vent in ICU with covid, my partner has a friend in ICU with covid and another emplyee has a cousin in the hospital with covid. At lunch we got a text from an employee that said she was taking her unvaxxed husband to the ER with covid. He thought he was safe since he worked in the coolers at HEB.

We aren't a large company - 19 employees in total but the RGV is going through another surge. This county has 425 in the hospital with covid which is the most since January here. This county was the 25th in the nation for covid deaths last year. Obesity kills.

I didn't personally know anybody that was in the hospital for covid during last year's surge. Way different this time because of the younger population I imagine.

Buddy still on a vent, though they have been able to lower the O2 settings at times.