I would not get the Pfizer shot for him. I get exercise induced urticaria randomly and plan to wait on Moderna which thus far has no reports of anaphylaxis in allergy people.

Do you think most Americans will get the moderna vaccine?

nancydeedavis said:

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MEXIA74 said:

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I had a guy who I consider very intelligent tell me this morning that he is not taking the vaccine because it can change your dna. I was at a loss for words. I just said, "really?".

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It 100% changes your DNA. I come on here to read/discuss A&M football, but am happy to discuss this via another outlet. Dr. Carrie Madej is a good FB follow for more on this particular topic.

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Stuff like this is so disheartening to hear.

I don't understand the need to believe the conspiracies over proven science.

If you google Dr. Carrie Madej this is the 2nd hit:

https://www.bbc.com/news/53525002

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Claim about the impact on DNA

First, a video containing inaccurate claims about coronavirus vaccine trials, made by osteopath Carrie Madej, that has proved popular on social media.

Carrie Madej's video makes a false claim that the vaccines will change recipients' DNA (which carries genetic information).

She also claims - without any evidence - that vaccines will "hook us all up to an artificial intelligence interface".
There are 25 different candidate vaccines in clinical trials around the world according to the World Health Organization (WHO), but none of them will alter human DNA and they do not contain technology to link people up to an artificial intelligence interface.

The vaccines are all designed to provoke an immune response by training our bodies to recognise and fight the virus.

Carrie Madej makes a number of other false claims, including that vaccine trials are "not following any sound scientific protocol to make sure this is safe".

"New vaccines undergo rigorous safety checks before they can be recommended for widespread use," says Michelle Roberts, BBC online health editor.

We have asked Carrie Madej for comment about these claims, but have received no response at the time of publication.

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KlinkerAg11 said:

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Do you think most Americans will get the moderna vaccine?

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I think so. The -70 storage requirement for Pfizer is a major problem for logistics.

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KlinkerAg11 said:

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Do you think most Americans will get the moderna vaccine?

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I think so. The -70 storage requirement for Pfizer is a major problem for logistics.

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My understanding is that, while it must be -90 F that it can be just below freezing for up to 30 days. Then once reconstituted it must be used in 6 hours.

https://www.pfizer.com/news/hot-topics/covid_19_vaccine_u_s_distribution_fact_sheet#:~:text=%2D%20The%20Pfizer%20thermal%20shippers%2C%20in,2%2D8%C2%B0C%20conditions.

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Once a POU receives a thermal shipper with our vaccine, they have three options for storage:

- Ultra-low-temperature freezers, which are commercially available and can extend shelf life for up to six months.

- The Pfizer thermal shippers, in which doses will arrive, that can be used as temporary storage units by refilling with dry ice every five days for up to 30 days of storage.

- Refrigeration units that are commonly available in hospitals. The vaccine can be stored for five days at refrigerated 2-8C conditions.

After storage for up to 30 days in the Pfizer thermal shipper, vaccination centers can transfer the vials to 2-8C storage conditions for an additional five days, for a total of up to 35 days. Once thawed and stored under 2-8C conditions, the vials cannot be re-frozen or stored under frozen conditions.

The various storage options at the POU allow for equitable access to the Pfizer vaccine to areas with differing infrastructure.

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At least initially, I don't think storage will be a problem. I am assuming that the amount of people that want the vaccine will use up the supply quickly.

nancydeedavis said:

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MEXIA74 said:

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I had a guy who I consider very intelligent tell me this morning that he is not taking the vaccine because it can change your dna. I was at a loss for words. I just said, "really?".

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It 100% changes your DNA. I come on here to read/discuss A&M football, but am happy to discuss this via another outlet. Dr. Carrie Madej is a good FB follow for more on this particular topic.

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Negative ghost rider

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I would not get the Pfizer shot for him. I get exercise induced urticaria randomly and plan to wait on Moderna which thus far has no reports of anaphylaxis in allergy people.

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Same here. Although I haven't, have had several members of my family who have had severe allergic reactions to vaccines in the past. So, even though they are at higher risk, they're going to try and wait it out as well until Moderna (or a better alternative) comes along.

Definitely going to stay away from the AstraZeneca/Oxford vaccine, though (too many serious side effects in trials so far).

nancydeedavis said:

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MEXIA74 said:

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I had a guy who I consider very intelligent tell me this morning that he is not taking the vaccine because it can change your dna. I was at a loss for words. I just said, "really?".

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It 100% changes your DNA. I come on here to read/discuss A&M football, but am happy to discuss this via another outlet. Dr. Carrie Madej is a good FB follow for more on this particular topic.

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100% huh? Wow. All this from the osteopath Dr with no molecular biology experience. "It will cause an artificial intelligence interface." Okay - what the hell is that. Read her crap. Complete utter BS

Humans don''t express reverse transcriptase enzymes. No DNA is produced by this vaccine and there is no plasmid vector within the vaccine to insert said fake DNA strands into the human genome.

Cannot believe people are running with this on Fakebook. Clickbait.

Marcus Aurelius said:

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nancydeedavis said:

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MEXIA74 said:

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I had a guy who I consider very intelligent tell me this morning that he is not taking the vaccine because it can change your dna. I was at a loss for words. I just said, "really?".

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It 100% changes your DNA. I come on here to read/discuss A&M football, but am happy to discuss this via another outlet. Dr. Carrie Madej is a good FB follow for more on this particular topic.

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100% huh? Wow. All this from the osteopath Dr with no molecular biology experience. "It will cause an artificial intelligence interface." Okay - what the hell is that. Read her crap. Complete utter BS

Humans don''t express reverse transcriptase enzymes. No DNA is produced by this vaccine and there is no plasmid vector within the vaccine to insert said fake DNA strands into the human genome.

Cannot believe people are running with this on Fakebook. Clickbait.

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As an intern in the ER one of the other residents I was on with saw a 17 year old girl who came in after putting Tabasco sauce in her vagina. She had been told it would kill the sperm and keep her from getting pregnant if she forgot to use a condom.

Under the right circumstances some people are capable of believing literally anything. Absolutely nothing surprises me anymore.