If you are under 70 the chance of surviving Covid is 99.95%zebros_95 said:
Cliff notes by any chance?
AggieYankee1 said:Aston94 said:If you are under 70 the chance of surviving Covid is 99.95%zebros_95 said:
Cliff notes by any chance?
Now do... what happens if you give it to your dad or mom (45-55) who has HTN or had diabetes for the past 10 years...
I'll wait...
Again this is not about those are that young and healthy - even though they have died from this as well... this is about the young and healthy being so selfish about their Outcomes they forget - they give it to those who cannot afford to get it.
To quote trump "this is a killer"
210,000 dead and counting.... how many dead bodies does it take for it to matter?
Your mom and dad are 45-55? How old are you?AggieYankee1 said:Aston94 said:If you are under 70 the chance of surviving Covid is 99.95%zebros_95 said:
Cliff notes by any chance?
Now do... what happens if you give it to your dad or mom (45-55) who has HTN or had diabetes for the past 10 years...
I'll wait...
Again this is not about those are that young and healthy - even though they have died from this as well... this is about the young and healthy being so selfish about their Outcomes they forget - they give it to those who cannot afford to get it.
To quote trump "this is a killer"
210,000 dead and counting.... how many dead bodies does it take for it to matter?
Exactly. You have many options to protect the vulnerable loved ones in your life (until covid is over is a vaccine is available):aggietony2010 said:
Transferring an illness to a vulnerable relative is a fact of life. You don't shut down normal life because of it. You protect the vulnerable.
Do us all a favor and permanently disconnect your internet. This forum would be better for it.
NASAg03 said:Exactly. You have many options to protect the vulnerable loved ones in your life (until covid is over is a vaccine is available):aggietony2010 said:
Transferring an illness to a vulnerable relative is a fact of life. You don't shut down normal life because of it. You protect the vulnerable.
Do us all a favor and permanently disconnect your internet. This forum would be better for it.
- Isolate them and only interact via plate glass or virtual
- Isolate with them until covid is over
- Isolate for 14 days until you want to see them in person
- Testing negative immediately prior to visiting them
But to expect everyone else to shut down, shelter in place, isolate, quarantine, and wear masks to protect YOUR loved ones? That's selfish, unreasonable, and removes far greater years of life expectancy vs. a virus with an average death the same as the average life expectancy in the US.
dermdoc said:
So in March when I predicted an IFR of .3-.6% I was spot on?
AggieYankee1 said:NASAg03 said:Exactly. You have many options to protect the vulnerable loved ones in your life (until covid is over is a vaccine is available):aggietony2010 said:
Transferring an illness to a vulnerable relative is a fact of life. You don't shut down normal life because of it. You protect the vulnerable.
Do us all a favor and permanently disconnect your internet. This forum would be better for it.
- Isolate them and only interact via plate glass or virtual
- Isolate with them until covid is over
- Isolate for 14 days until you want to see them in person
- Testing negative immediately prior to visiting them
But to expect everyone else to shut down, shelter in place, isolate, quarantine, and wear masks to protect YOUR loved ones? That's selfish, unreasonable, and removes far greater years of life expectancy vs. a virus with an average death the same as the average life expectancy in the US.
So if you live with your parents while you are in high school - interact with them through glass?
I don't get it
Compare my predictions vs Fauci and Birx.Keegan99 said:dermdoc said:
So in March when I predicted an IFR of .3-.6% I was spot on?
Not bad for a pimple popper.
AggieYankee1 said:NASAg03 said:Exactly. You have many options to protect the vulnerable loved ones in your life (until covid is over is a vaccine is available):aggietony2010 said:
Transferring an illness to a vulnerable relative is a fact of life. You don't shut down normal life because of it. You protect the vulnerable.
Do us all a favor and permanently disconnect your internet. This forum would be better for it.
- Isolate them and only interact via plate glass or virtual
- Isolate with them until covid is over
- Isolate for 14 days until you want to see them in person
- Testing negative immediately prior to visiting them
But to expect everyone else to shut down, shelter in place, isolate, quarantine, and wear masks to protect YOUR loved ones? That's selfish, unreasonable, and removes far greater years of life expectancy vs. a virus with an average death the same as the average life expectancy in the US.
So if you live with your parents while you are in high school - interact with them through glass?
I don't get it
AggieYankee1 said:The_Fox said:Your mom and dad are 45-55? How old are you?AggieYankee1 said:Aston94 said:If you are under 70 the chance of surviving Covid is 99.95%zebros_95 said:
Cliff notes by any chance?
Now do... what happens if you give it to your dad or mom (45-55) who has HTN or had diabetes for the past 10 years...
I'll wait...
Again this is not about those are that young and healthy - even though they have died from this as well... this is about the young and healthy being so selfish about their Outcomes they forget - they give it to those who cannot afford to get it.
To quote trump "this is a killer"
210,000 dead and counting.... how many dead bodies does it take for it to matter?
I am 46 and have HTN. The rona was like having bad allergies for a few days. Not even close to as bad as the flu.
If you loved one is under 55, the odds are heavily in their favor. And they are going to get it.
I'm very happy for you and your family! Sadly there are 210,000 other families in the past 7 months who did not have the same result and according to trump...
This could 2.2 million people if we just let it burn - and the flu kills 100,000 with a vaccine...
Soooo...let's all stick together and wear the mask and stop underestimating/downplaying how dangerous this is.
K?
250k die annually from medical accidents. Why are the doctors killing us? I'm confused. Should we shelter in place so doctors can't kill us?AggieYankee1 said:The_Fox said:Your mom and dad are 45-55? How old are you?AggieYankee1 said:Aston94 said:If you are under 70 the chance of surviving Covid is 99.95%zebros_95 said:
Cliff notes by any chance?
Now do... what happens if you give it to your dad or mom (45-55) who has HTN or had diabetes for the past 10 years...
I'll wait...
Again this is not about those are that young and healthy - even though they have died from this as well... this is about the young and healthy being so selfish about their Outcomes they forget - they give it to those who cannot afford to get it.
To quote trump "this is a killer"
210,000 dead and counting.... how many dead bodies does it take for it to matter?
I am 46 and have HTN. The rona was like having bad allergies for a few days. Not even close to as bad as the flu.
If you loved one is under 55, the odds are heavily in their favor. And they are going to get it.
I'm very happy for you and your family! Sadly there are 210,000 other families in the past 7 months who did not have the same result and according to trump...
This could 2.2 million people if we just let it burn - and the flu kills 100,000 with a vaccine...
Soooo...let's all stick together and wear the mask and stop underestimating/downplaying how dangerous this is.
K?
Quote:
Please provide a cite - to where doctors kill 250,000 people a year... I promise you there is not one.
Quote:
Analyzing medical death rate data over an eight-year period, Johns Hopkins patient safety experts have calculated that more than 250,000 deaths per year are due to medical error in the U.S. Their figure, published May 3 in The BMJ,
Uh, I gave the synopsis of the study, chief. I didn't "do" the study.AggieYankee1 said:Aston94 said:If you are under 70 the chance of surviving Covid is 99.95%zebros_95 said:
Cliff notes by any chance?
Now do... what happens if you give it to your dad or mom (45-55) who has HTN or had diabetes for the past 10 years...
I'll wait...
Again this is not about those are that young and healthy - even though they have died from this as well... this is about the young and healthy being so selfish about their Outcomes they forget - they give it to those who cannot afford to get it.
To quote trump "this is a killer"
210,000 dead and counting.... how many dead bodies does it take for it to matter?
What you do not get is that nobody is "downplaying it" nor is this the goal here. It's to get to the facts. The fact is that a lot of policy decisions are being made based on "how dangerous" this virus is, when, in fact the policy is overkill and grid locking and hurting more than the virus is. I am in education. There is no tangible reason to quarantine for 10-14 days if you test negative. Teachers and students who have been detirmined to have been in contact with those testing positive but themselves are not positive are being pulled out of class at a constant rate all in an effort to be 'cautious" when in fact a few days at most with a couple of tests should be enough to allow those people back. The online classes are a joke and kids' educations are suffering.AggieYankee1 said:The_Fox said:Your mom and dad are 45-55? How old are you?AggieYankee1 said:Aston94 said:If you are under 70 the chance of surviving Covid is 99.95%zebros_95 said:
Cliff notes by any chance?
Now do... what happens if you give it to your dad or mom (45-55) who has HTN or had diabetes for the past 10 years...
I'll wait...
Again this is not about those are that young and healthy - even though they have died from this as well... this is about the young and healthy being so selfish about their Outcomes they forget - they give it to those who cannot afford to get it.
To quote trump "this is a killer"
210,000 dead and counting.... how many dead bodies does it take for it to matter?
I am 46 and have HTN. The rona was like having bad allergies for a few days. Not even close to as bad as the flu.
If you loved one is under 55, the odds are heavily in their favor. And they are going to get it.
I'm very happy for you and your family! Sadly there are 210,000 other families in the past 7 months who did not have the same result and according to trump...
This could 2.2 million people if we just let it burn - and the flu kills 100,000 with a vaccine...
Soooo...let's all stick together and wear the mask and stop underestimating/downplaying how dangerous this is.
K?
I'm 46 and have 3 kids (elem. and jr. high)...My mom wears a mask when she sees them and we maintain social distance (she is 74 and has mild COPD), my dad is 75 (Cancer and some heart issues), he stays socially distanced all the time.AggieYankee1 said:NASAg03 said:Exactly. You have many options to protect the vulnerable loved ones in your life (until covid is over is a vaccine is available):aggietony2010 said:
Transferring an illness to a vulnerable relative is a fact of life. You don't shut down normal life because of it. You protect the vulnerable.
Do us all a favor and permanently disconnect your internet. This forum would be better for it.
- Isolate them and only interact via plate glass or virtual
- Isolate with them until covid is over
- Isolate for 14 days until you want to see them in person
- Testing negative immediately prior to visiting them
But to expect everyone else to shut down, shelter in place, isolate, quarantine, and wear masks to protect YOUR loved ones? That's selfish, unreasonable, and removes far greater years of life expectancy vs. a virus with an average death the same as the average life expectancy in the US.
So if you live with your parents while you are in high school - interact with them through glass?
I don't get it
Keegan99 said:
The actual release from Johns Hopkins.
https://hub.jhu.edu/2016/05/03/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death/Quote:
Analyzing medical death rate data over an eight-year period, Johns Hopkins patient safety experts have calculated that more than 250,000 deaths per year are due to medical error in the U.S. Their figure, published May 3 in The BMJ,
So yes, there is very clearly a reputable study of the sort you "promised" did not exist.
AY1 doesn't deal in facts. AY1 has a history on multiple forums here of fear mongering and being nasty to those that use actual data to refute the fear mongering.RandyAg98 said:
AggieYankee1...care to comment on Keegan's post? You seem to "know" a lot of things that are not based on facts.