I think the worst is that he couldn't even find a doctor to speak with him. I would be trying my hardest to stay away from ER but with his pulse ox getting into the low 90's and not being able to breath I might have broken down and gone if I couldn't at least SPEAK to a doctor.Player To Be Named Later said:
Our country's response to this outbreak ia completely unacceptable. Lots of people like the OP being told to just suck it up.
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Player To Be Named Later said:
Our country's response to this outbreak ia completely unacceptable. Lots of people like the OP being told to just suck it up.
It's the exact thing people were always told to do with the flu prior to tamiflu, and we don't have a "tamiflu" for CV at this point.
Stay home, rest, recuperate, treat your symptoms as well as you can with OTC meds, and you'll almost assuredly get better without tying up scarce medical resources. In the event you do take a turn for the worse then you get priority.
I'm not sure how this is either wrong or a reflection on our country.
I'm a little confused about why you can't get the test. Have you tried a different doctor?
Our daughter has asthma and was having symptoms a couple of weeks ago. She was wheezing and coughing but wasn't running much of a temperature. She had been to Houston to see us, so that put her at higher risk, too.
She did a virtual visit with her doctor and she sent her directly to S&W for a CV test that same day (almost 2 weeks ago now). She got the results (negative) in 24 hours.
I'm not understanding why her doctor sent her so quickly without such severe symptoms. Perhaps because she has an infant at home? I don't know. But if I were you I'd try to get a different doctor to order the test.
Our daughter has asthma and was having symptoms a couple of weeks ago. She was wheezing and coughing but wasn't running much of a temperature. She had been to Houston to see us, so that put her at higher risk, too.
She did a virtual visit with her doctor and she sent her directly to S&W for a CV test that same day (almost 2 weeks ago now). She got the results (negative) in 24 hours.
I'm not understanding why her doctor sent her so quickly without such severe symptoms. Perhaps because she has an infant at home? I don't know. But if I were you I'd try to get a different doctor to order the test.
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At this point testing OP would be pointless.
If you are a young healthy person with symptoms that do not require hospitalization, then quarantine yourself for 14 days and re-evaluate - most likely wont be tested.
If you are NOT a young healthy person (age 65+), and have symptoms that are moderate but do not require hospitalization, you will probably get tested to confirm or deny covid and asked to quarantine yourself unless things get worse.
Any case that requires hospitalization regardless of age/health status will be tested.
The difference in testing? being young/healthy or having non-serious symptoms doesn't matter if you have it or not as long as you are being proactive about quarantining and not spreading it, it will run its course either way.
However, hospitalization requires testing firstly because of avoiding malpractice, but secondly its necessary to know if you will need to be kept in controlled airflow rooms, and further treatment options.
If you are a young healthy person with symptoms that do not require hospitalization, then quarantine yourself for 14 days and re-evaluate - most likely wont be tested.
If you are NOT a young healthy person (age 65+), and have symptoms that are moderate but do not require hospitalization, you will probably get tested to confirm or deny covid and asked to quarantine yourself unless things get worse.
Any case that requires hospitalization regardless of age/health status will be tested.
The difference in testing? being young/healthy or having non-serious symptoms doesn't matter if you have it or not as long as you are being proactive about quarantining and not spreading it, it will run its course either way.
However, hospitalization requires testing firstly because of avoiding malpractice, but secondly its necessary to know if you will need to be kept in controlled airflow rooms, and further treatment options.
FaithfulAg04 said:
Wow. DO. NOT. WANT.
I'm 38 and had asthma issues into my early 30s.
I have now decided I do not want the COVID.
This story was very disheartening. So when they say "80% experience Mild symptoms", the fortunate with Mild symptoms may still have to survive a week of this? What a mess.
Mild is a clinical term which simply means doesn't need hospitalization. It ranges from asymptomatic to feeling like death but not needing to go to the hospital for a stay.
I am going to go a different direction
What is the point in testing old at risk people? Why not as a health community assume that every old person showing all the signs is positive and treat as such.
Then save a test for a younger lower risk person early in the process to get ahead of the infection?
Getting ahead would prevent a lower risk person from advancing to a worse prognosis as the infection takes hold.
What is the point in testing old at risk people? Why not as a health community assume that every old person showing all the signs is positive and treat as such.
Then save a test for a younger lower risk person early in the process to get ahead of the infection?
Getting ahead would prevent a lower risk person from advancing to a worse prognosis as the infection takes hold.
They will eventually do serology studies for antibodies. I will be able to test then. I am not worried about testing now since I am finally getting better
GeographyAg said:
I'm a little confused about why you can't get the test. Have you tried a different doctor?
Our daughter has asthma and was having symptoms a couple of weeks ago. She was wheezing and coughing but wasn't running much of a temperature. She had been to Houston to see us, so that put her at higher risk, too.
She did a virtual visit with her doctor and she sent her directly to S&W for a CV test that same day (almost 2 weeks ago now). She got the results (negative) in 24 hours.
I'm not understanding why her doctor sent her so quickly without such severe symptoms. Perhaps because she has an infant at home? I don't know. But if I were you I'd try to get a different doctor to order the test.
Nope. Your daughter was VERY fortunate to get the test. The vast majority of people in Texas with symptoms cannot get a test.
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Player To Be Named Later said:
Our country's response to this outbreak ia completely unacceptable. Lots of people like the OP being told to just suck it up.
Not only that, he's not even counted as a positive case... those numbers that most Americans are obsessing over about going back to work or how bad it is.
Thanks for sharing OP. Sorry you went through what you did and hope you recover.
My wife has severe asthma. They sent home a coworker of hers today as she had several hours of contact this weekend with a relative that tested positive for COVID Monday. She can't be tested at this time until conditions worsen. Since the company is cash starved - everyone still has to go in the office, where she works with children with Autism, and act like things are ok until the coworker gets sick. No words....
Things like this is what she needs to read to understand what might be coming..... I sure hope it isn't....
My wife has severe asthma. They sent home a coworker of hers today as she had several hours of contact this weekend with a relative that tested positive for COVID Monday. She can't be tested at this time until conditions worsen. Since the company is cash starved - everyone still has to go in the office, where she works with children with Autism, and act like things are ok until the coworker gets sick. No words....
Things like this is what she needs to read to understand what might be coming..... I sure hope it isn't....
Ragoo said:
I am going to go a different direction
What is the point in testing old at risk people? Why not as a health community assume that every old person showing all the signs is positive and treat as such.
Then save a test for a younger lower risk person early in the process to get ahead of the infection?
Getting ahead would prevent a lower risk person from advancing to a worse prognosis as the infection takes hold.
Because most hospitals are controlled by large companies and are risk adverse. Doctors are employees and do not make the rules anymore. I know this is a generalization, but we have translated to managed care in most hospitals. My dad is a retired physician. (Not this kind for infectious disease). He lobbied against this for years.
If I were in her shoes and felt any sort of symptoms I would exaggerate them to doctors so that she gets tested and treatment.Carlo4 said:
Thanks for sharing OP. Sorry you went through what you did and hope you recover.
My wife has severe asthma. They sent home a coworker of hers today as she had several hours of contact this weekend with a relative that tested positive for COVID Monday. She can't be tested at this time until conditions worsen. Since the company is cash starved - everyone still has to go in the office, where she works with children with Autism, and act like things are ok until the coworker gets sick. No words....
Things like this is what she needs to read to understand what might be coming..... I sure hope it isn't....
Can you describe in more detail your asthma and how you think it played into your experience? Also, describe your breathing if you could.
The breathing part is what makes me most anxious about this virus. I can handle a headache. I can handle sinus pressure, a cough, etc. but if my breathing becomes labored I freak out.
The breathing part is what makes me most anxious about this virus. I can handle a headache. I can handle sinus pressure, a cough, etc. but if my breathing becomes labored I freak out.
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The breathing part is what makes me most anxious about this virus. I can handle a headache. I can handle sinus pressure, a cough, etc. but if my breathing becomes labored I freak out.
Same. That would likely give me a serious case of anxiety, which would compound things.
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The potential fatalities in Brazos County is truly a frightening number.
Interesting to see the differences between cities. Up in N. Texas we have done 1000s of tests in my area through public health and local labs. We also have pop up clinics starting to come from private providers.
I just assumed all asthma folks had pulse oximeters. We have about 5 of them, and 3 nebulizers for our daughter. FYI, the black and yellow one from walgreens isn't very good. You can also get bad readings so make sure you move it around different fingers and let your arm rest without blood restriction (leaning on a pillow for example.)
I just assumed all asthma folks had pulse oximeters. We have about 5 of them, and 3 nebulizers for our daughter. FYI, the black and yellow one from walgreens isn't very good. You can also get bad readings so make sure you move it around different fingers and let your arm rest without blood restriction (leaning on a pillow for example.)
Ragoo said:
Can you describe in more detail your asthma and how you think it played into your experience? Also, describe your breathing if you could.
The breathing part is what makes me most anxious about this virus. I can handle a headache. I can handle sinus pressure, a cough, etc. but if my breathing becomes labored I freak out.
For those that have never experienced shortness of breath it might be hard to understand. When you breathe in I don't feel like I am getting enough air. The volume is there but not absorbing enough. If I breathe in too much it leads to a coughing episode that makes it even harder to catch a breath. If I am able to control the coughing, I can manage to breathe shallower and tolerate it. If you don't then you might get a panic attack and all the breathing issues are compounded. I know I am over simplifying this, but its how it feels to me.
When I exhale deeply I can feel crackling in my lungs like something is moving around. It is a noise I have never experienced.
That is where the pulse/Ox comes in. Monitoring oxygen levels. If they decline to unsafe levels you need an ER.
Hope you are feeling better with every passing minute. Thankful you made it through this ordeal with little help. Saying a prayer for your complete recovery.
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Huntsville calls everyday...none so farbangobango said:Yep, Abbott is really pissing me off with how he is handling this.MyNameIsKyle said:
The lack of testing availability is damn near criminal mismanagement, and incompetence, at best.
aggie1819 said:Yeah I am not having a panic attack. Nice try.itsyourboypookie said:Pumpkinhead said:
Doctors would classify the OP's experience as 'Mild' symptoms, correct?
Not even. Mild symptoms get tested.
This reads like a panic attack with a feedback loop from hell.
Eventually, you either call an ambulance and get checked in.
Or accept what the Dr. says and chill.
Crazy powerful the brain is.
For context, that poster is a roughneck turned real estate agent who is the type to send you those voicemails about cash offers.
Only a stones throw away from medical doctor.
edit. NVM
I was just letting you know what is happening from a medical standpoint.
Source: Father is Infectious Disease Specialist at a large hospital.
Source: Father is Infectious Disease Specialist at a large hospital.
Nice shot at your health care workers there.MiMi said:We may never know due to lack of testing. There are 53 confirmed cases in Brazos County. But I suspect the total number of cases to be much higher.Quote:
Are there lots of cases in College Station?
Since only those are requiring hospitalization allowed to be tested, and with only 8 patients reported by the health dept to have been hospitalized (2 have been discharged), how did all the others get tested? Family members or healthcare workers?
People are getting tested on strict criteria.
- Travel to high risk areas- started with just China, then Italy, then all Europe, then ski resorts/NY/Wash/Cali, now pretty much anywhere
- Exposure to proven COVID patient
- Risk factors (60+, health conditions, etc)
I am frustrated with the lack of testing in Aggieland and I promise all of the docs and hospitals are aggravated as well. But you cannot magically make test kits appear. We are not a hot spot so we are low priority.
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I don't think he meant that as a shot at health care workers. Its important health care workers get tested. Probably most important. And to your point they are so often exposed to the virus.
If we are testing anyone it should be healthcare workers.
If we are testing anyone it should be healthcare workers.
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Yeah you are probably correct. Hard to infer tone on forums.agsalaska said:
I don't think he meant that as a shot at health care workers. Its important health care workers get tested. Probably most important. And to your point they are so often exposed to the virus.
If we are testing anyone it should be healthcare workers.
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Agreed.
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Elko is a loser and we will be buying him out for some obscene amount of money in two years. - Agsalaska
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KidDoc said:Yeah you are probably correct. Hard to infer tone on forums.agsalaska said:
I don't think he meant that as a shot at health care workers. Its important health care workers get tested. Probably most important. And to your point they are so often exposed to the virus.
If we are testing anyone it should be healthcare workers.
My dad is a 67 year old Aggie physician ( not infectious disease). He has lobbied against the large hospitals managed care business model we have transitioned to. A large amount of doctors are now employees and not directing policies in hospitals. Hospitals have become so risk adverse and dictate treatment methods doctors can do. My uncle who is a gastroenterologist left BCS when this area moved that direction. It is a shame. There are still so many great doctors but they are handcuffed by hospital brass. I know this is a generalization but it's happening.
The point of testing old people is because a positive DOES change treatment plan. COVID is very very deadly for older people. A positive test result basically means they are going to get hospitalized. A positive test for a young person does not likely change their treatment assuming they don't have any other risk factors. They are going to be told to go home, stay home, and treat symptoms unless they get worse. We don't have hospital beds for every person over 60 that gets a temperature or cough. That's why tests are currently reserved for old or other high-risk individuals. It's a sound policy until testing capacity ramps up to meet demand.Ragoo said:
I am going to go a different direction
What is the point in testing old at risk people? Why not as a health community assume that every old person showing all the signs is positive and treat as such.
Then save a test for a younger lower risk person early in the process to get ahead of the infection?
Getting ahead would prevent a lower risk person from advancing to a worse prognosis as the infection takes hold.
what about RX that will make the impact less dramatic for a younger person? Instead of battling for 10-12 days potentially getting pneumonia, why not test and prescribe the drugs that can get them on the road to recovery instead of sitting at home hoping they don't get worse?HumpitPuryear said:The point of testing old people is because a positive DOES change treatment plan. COVID is very very deadly for older people. A positive test result basically means they are going to get hospitalized. A positive test for a young person does not likely change their treatment assuming they don't have any other risk factors. They are going to be told to go home, stay home, and treat symptoms unless they get worse. We don't have hospital beds for every person over 60 that gets a temperature or cough. That's why tests are currently reserved for old or other high-risk individuals. It's a sound policy until testing capacity ramps up to meet demand.Ragoo said:
I am going to go a different direction
What is the point in testing old at risk people? Why not as a health community assume that every old person showing all the signs is positive and treat as such.
Then save a test for a younger lower risk person early in the process to get ahead of the infection?
Getting ahead would prevent a lower risk person from advancing to a worse prognosis as the infection takes hold.
I was not disparaging our health care workers (I am one myself, but my patients are not human). I would hope that anyone that treats human patients will be prioritized and tested.
I live in a household with 3 high-risk individuals. I am frustrated that, should they develop symptoms, they would not be tested until they are sick enough to require hospitalization.
I live in a household with 3 high-risk individuals. I am frustrated that, should they develop symptoms, they would not be tested until they are sick enough to require hospitalization.
For all the people posting "why not test young healthy people with mild symptoms so they can be treated if positive," it's because doctors in TX are not allowed to prescribe the medicine outpatient for COVID-19 per a temporary rule by the Texas Board of Pharmacy:
https://www.texmed.org/TexasMedicineDetail.aspx?Pageid=46106&id=53026
Therefore knowing whether a young healthy person with mild symptoms would test positive for SARS-CoV-2 DOES NOT change how this person is managed. Early detection DOES NOT change the outcome for this person since there is still no FDA-approved specific treatment for mildly ill patients. The FDA has only approved them for emergency and clinical-trial use.
Now, the lack of FDA-approval and the TX Board of Pharmacy temporary rule against off-label use may change, and the quantity of available tests is changing from day-to-day, so what's being done today for mildly ill and asymptomatic people may change as well.
https://www.texmed.org/TexasMedicineDetail.aspx?Pageid=46106&id=53026
Therefore knowing whether a young healthy person with mild symptoms would test positive for SARS-CoV-2 DOES NOT change how this person is managed. Early detection DOES NOT change the outcome for this person since there is still no FDA-approved specific treatment for mildly ill patients. The FDA has only approved them for emergency and clinical-trial use.
Now, the lack of FDA-approval and the TX Board of Pharmacy temporary rule against off-label use may change, and the quantity of available tests is changing from day-to-day, so what's being done today for mildly ill and asymptomatic people may change as well.
But I can go to any dumb clinic with a nurse practitioner and get a ZPak script for a sinus infection. But if I think I have covid, nope, red tape.
Cool
Cool
Can't they give HCQ and Z-pack?PearlJammin said:What does a test do for someone in this situation?jvanbeek said:
It is shocking that they are still not testing. There should be plenty of availability now.
Anyone with these symptoms has to assume they have it but the Dr. would have treated the exact same way if he tested positive.
Doctors cannot heal this thing. They have to dedicate their resources to saving lives.
Dude obviously has COVID and they keep telling him to F off? F that.
Being married to a pharmacist, I have heard my fair share of "bad apple" stories about Dr's. Trust me, they're not all "heroes". Far from it.
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