The Ags bats weren't super hot, but we got jobbed on a few calls. Overall a fun game to attend though. It got a little dicey there in the 9th, but Jaason did a great job of closing the door.

Beat the Hell Outta Tech!

Home cooking doesn't nearly describe it.

I counted a total of eight calls, either controversial or clearly wrong, that went Cougar High's way. That does not include any ball/strike calls.

It was awesome to see one of our coaches' get tossed and watch him get his money worth.

AB2 did you get to go to the game I guess?

Good game tonight Ags...
Don't know about the "home cooking" calls though... As a baseball fan, I though those calls in question went both ways, We'll see how those same calls go in BCS is a few weeks. Good luck on the rest of the season. Ya'll got a great squad.

if anything, Parker was safe at second base....and not just by a little

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AB2,
i agree.... 2-3 of them were blatant, with the most obvious being the "out" at second in the 8th and the "safe" for CH at 1st when our pitcher nicked the bag. i don't think i've ever seen a more poorly officiated game ever.

Let's see...

Austin Boggs lays down a perfect bunt that is starting to roll foul. It catches a bit of dirty and rolls back onto the chalk line, where it is touched and called foul by one ump, fair by the other. Guess who won that one?


UH batboy is behind the plate, no umpire on the field calls timeout, Thebeau throws a strike, but the 3rd base umpire THEN runs in and says "no pitch" because the batboy was behind the plate.

Dalton has to run around a guy at first base, no obstruction call is made for blocking the baseline, then the umpire is in improper position to make the forthcoming call at 2nd.

Kyle Thebeau trips on first base, ball in hand, and the runner is called safe because he missed the bag.

I think the Dalton call was correct at 2nd, but there were glaring umpiring errors elsewhere in that same play that led to additional issues. The other three were all very blatant.

If you can name me one legitimiate "either way" call from the whole night that went A&M's way, I'll shut up.

yeah, that batboy thing was a complete joke....it certainly saved the kid from harms way didn't it?

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Sorry to get in a pissing match it seems, maybe I'm just on the wrong thread. Yes, some calls did go our way, I'll be the first to admit that right here. The call regarding the foul ball seemed correct from my angle (standing behind home favoring the 1st base side) But I agree that the strike should have stood with the bat boy incident, our bad... But other than that, how did those calls cost the game? Balls and strikes went both ways, the zone seemed fairly consistent and nothing stood out as a call that stood out as something that cost the deserving team a win or loss, the same way a college game with college officials are always called. Sorry everything did not go your way. Regardless, I hope Big 12 play goes well for ya'll and beat the ________ out of Texas

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AB2,
where were you sitting? it didn't even look close at 2nd on Dalton's "out".

Umm i dont think the calls did cost anybody the game considering A&M won and the calls were against them?

this by no means constitutes a pissing match. the home plate ump settled in after a couple innings and was consistent with balls around the outside part of the plate. your 1st run can be credited to the men in blue, calling the runner safe at 1st when our pitcher tripped over the edge of the bag. other than that, we both left lots of guys on. it was an interesting game. no hate here, and good luck the rest of the way.

as far as you saying nothing stood out as a possible game-breaker... it could have if we did not get out of the jams the umps put us in. there were a couple horrible calls.



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I didn't say that they cost us the game (obviously we overcame them for the victory), but I'm just pointing out that there was not one single call, all night, that was 50/50 and went A&M's way (other than some ball/strike calls, but those don't count in this particular pissing match).

02 - I sat right behind Parker's Dad, and after we each griped for a few minutes, we sat down and agreed he was out.

So was he safe, or out? It happened during the one time I went down to the grass, so I didn't have a good view at all?

i'd say the overwhelming consenus in our section was that he was safe. it appeared that he touched the bag at the same time the fielder got the ball (but well in advance of the fielder turning around and making the tag).

Greg Oros is one of the worst umpires in D-I baseball. I don't know if he called this game (I'm too lazy to look it up), but he always seems to appear at UH games when A&M, UT or Baylor come to town.

Anyway, if Oros was one of the men in blue last night, you can count on at least a half-dozen blantantly blown calls.




The grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of our God stands forever. - Isaiah 40:8, NIV

Agreed. Pathetic umpiring. My throat is still sore from yelling at that guy.

From the box score:

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Umpires: Hp: Greg Oros, First: Rick Nagy, Third: Bob Charmo

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Charmo is right up there in the league with Oros.

After seeing that umpiring crew, I'm just please as I can be that we got out of there without a 10-run loss.




The grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of our God stands forever. - Isaiah 40:8, NIV

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Charmo is right up there in the league with Oros.

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Interesting. Those were the two umps involved in most of the screwed up calls.

I don't think the play at 2nd was even close. Parker hit the bag the same time their fielder caught the ball. Had it been a force out, you could have called it either way. But there is no way the tag beat him to the bag.

And what in the world was the home plate ump doing getting into it with our 1B coach on that play? I can understand getting tossed if you are on the ump that blew the call, but not by by the home plate ump 100 feet away.

Obviously, the other three glaring screw-ups in my mind were the foul ball, the play at 1B, and the batboy incident.

On the foul ball, the ball was resting on the chalk with the Cougar 3B picked up the ball. No way it was a foul ball.

It sure looked like Kyle tripped on the bag during the play at 1st, but he didn't complain too much, nor did our 1B coach. So, I tend to think they might not have botched this one, but the probably did!

And the called strike taken down because of the bat boy was horrible. First of all, the kid was still over by our dugout, not directly behind the catcher. Second, no one made any call at all until the ball had already been thrown back to Kyle.

Nothing that happened last night cost us the game since we won, but the umps were horrible. And they were not horrible both ways. I don't think you can come up with one call in the field where Cougar High got jobbed. We can argue balls and strikes all night, but I am only looking at plays in the field.

On another note, I liked the pickoff play early in the game. The Aggie SS had been breaking behind the bag on 2-3 pitches and on the pick-off, he broke behind the bag and then sprinted back towards third. The runner thought all was good, and then the 2B came flying in behind him and the guy was toast. He never knew the 2B was filling in behind him.

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Greg Oros did not like the Cougar High batboys.....he kept on giving them dirty looks (per my wife).

As a Rice season ticket holder, I can assure you that Oros is truly atrocious. Just terrible. He calls waaaay too many Rice games.

I went to the game with a coog. We sat right behind home and yes there were some bad calls but they were bad on both sides. The call at 2nd and the bat boy play were the only ones worth arguing about. My friend said that the home ump is pretty bad and he works UH often enough that they have the theme from the Godfather play when he is behind the plate.

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Again, this might be true if we are talking balls and strikes. But there were no plays in the field that went against cougar high.

Luke & wheredidmypantsgo,
it's good to know that 2 of the umps have bad reputations. that was my 1st game of the year, and i was hoping that college umps were not anywhere near that bad on average.

joeperry,
i disagree with you about there being only 2 calls worth arguing about. i guess from your seat it was difficult to see the botched call at first when our pitcher covered (and tripped somewhat on the bag). as for balls and strikes, he was somewhat consistent during the later innings. however, it seemed like the outside corner on righties gave the ump a lot of trouble early.

No wonder he has rabbit ears.

"And the called strike taken down because of the bat boy was horrible. First of all, the kid was still over by our dugout, not directly behind the catcher."

I'm cracking up about the bat boy incident. The kid plays on my 11U select team. My son (also on the same team) and I sat in the front row directly behind home plate. We'd rag on him every time he went after a ball. LOL And on that particular play, he was pretty much directly behind the catcher up against the backstop, maybe a couple of feet to the right. He was caught in a BAD spot. He started to run back to the dugout but saw they were going to pitch so he froze.



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