chambless revisited

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Artimus Gordon
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Score by Innings R H E
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Texas A&M........... 000 001 102 3 - 7 13 0
Oklahoma............ 000 000 040 1 - 5 8 0
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DP - Texas A&M 3. LOB - Texas A&M 9; OU 5. 2B - Infante(5); Kaiser, K.(5).
HR - Dalton(2); Mavroulis(3). HBP - Baldwin; Raley, R.; Thornton, E.. SH -
Infante(2). SF - Bartek(1). SB - Bartek(2); Bose, M.(2); Ivey, A.(2).

Texas A&M IP H R ER BB SO AB BF
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Meyer, Jason........ 7.1 4 2 2 3 5 23 27
Corgan, Chance...... 0.0 1 2 2 1 0 1 2
Pennington, Cliff... 0.2 2 0 0 0 0 3 3
Turner, Clayton..... 2.0 1 1 1 0 2 7 8

Oklahoma IP H R ER BB SO AB BF
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Savage, W........... 8.0 7 2 2 1 4 31 33
McCutchen........... 2.0 6 5 5 1 2 10 13

Win - Turner (1-2). Loss - McCutchen (2-2). Save - None.
WP - Meyer(2). HBP - by Meyer (Thornton, E.); by Savage, W. (Baldwin); by Turner
(Raley, R.). PB - Pouk(3).
Umpires - HP: Bill Davis 1B: Mark Winters 3B: Terry Brown
Start: 7:08 pm Time: 3:08 Attendance: 1085
Corgan faced 2 batters in the 8th.


Had it not been for McCutchen of OU blowing up in the last couple of innings, you know it alls would be crying right now. OU had a 4-2 lead with three outs to finish the game and couldn't put it away. Be thankful for huge favors courtesy of cochelle and company.

Artimus Gordon
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BTW, the objective should be to win a min of 2/3 on the road and sweep at home. If the other team has a dominate pitcher why waste your best pitcher if you don't have too. It would been a helluva note to lose last night with Meyer on the mound. We could ill afford to take another loss in the first game of a road series.

We are very very fortunate to win that game last night. It was HUGE! Now let's see if we can capitalize on it today. If we get momentum in the first game with a win, it could well carry over into the second game of the doubleheader. Here's hoping anyway!!!


Stu Piditti
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One more thought on Chambless. He's obviously strong in the closer's role, and may be our best option there. However, at least during football practice, he's not always available for all our games, and we sure could have used him last night. Given that Chambless' baseball time is limited due to football, does it make more sense to only have him start one game a week, like on Sunday. That wouldn't interfere with football practice, and he'd be well rested. I think we can't go wrong wherever Chambless ends up, but I'm wondering if Sunday starter is a better role due to football commitments.
Goose06
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Artimus, try and understand this. BAD teams pitch their ace in game 2 or 3 to try to steal ONE game. OU does NOT have a dominate pitcher that would force us to move meyer to saturday or sunday. Even if they did, we would still try and win with Meyer on Friday and hope for a 2-1 or 1-0 game or maybe get to their bullpen in the late innings. Had chambless been there to close it last night we could have rolled to a 4-0 win most likely. Now, if you could stop talking like we are Kansas or Kansas State and act like we are better than OU then you will stop making yourself look like a complete idiot.
Goose06
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Stu, Ive been pondering that idea myself. It seems like a good idea and if Whelan/Ray/Turner/Corgan can be a solid bullpen for us then that could be what we end up seeing. My guess is if we can win game 1 today without Chambless that he may very well start game 2. We will see
ag711
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that would be awesome,..however,...few of us would get to see him pitch that game,..which would suck ,

but i like ray to come out of the pen. he seems to be more dominant in that role
W
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here's the pitching stats after 4 conference games:

Team ERA: 6.17
Opponents runs scored: 24 (average of 6 per game)

Whichever way the Ags line up the pitching, these numbers have to get better.

Opposing pitchers have a 2.92 ERA vs aggie hitters and only allowed 12 earned runs in 4 games.

We are rather fortunate to be sitting at 2-2 so far.
AgRyan04
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Robert Ray's career:

Starter: 67.0 IP, 69 H, 3.89 ERA
Reliever: 33.1 IP, 46 H, 4.86 ERA

edit:
I should point out that his reliever numbers are a bit decieving....He has had two relief appearances that have accounted for a total of 0.2 innings and 7 of his 18 ERs as a reliever. If you factor those two 0.2 inning out his line looks like this:
32.2 IP, 36 H, 3.03 ERA

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[This message has been edited by AgRyan04 (edited 3/25/2005 2:35p).]
Artimus Gordon
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Earth to byron, Earth to byron, we are not a great baseball team. We weren't better than tech last weekend were we? What makes you think we are necessarily better than OU? We were very fortunate to pull that win out last night. It had to do as much with OU's lack of a closer as anything. We really weren't hitting Savage at all.

Now we have used both Turner and Corgan with a doubleheader to be played today. We have to see how those guys respond after pitching last night. Right now we have Marlatt to start. Creps pitched on Tuesday and I don't see him being available tonight. Maybe if the game was played on Sat or Sunday he would be.

The idea is not to waste your best pitcher when you have a very mediocre hitting ball club like we do. Corgan/Turner could have done just as well as the four guys we threw last night, which may or may not be effective today during the doubleheader.










AgRyan04
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Just because we lost the series to tech does not mean we're not a great baseball team. There are lots of great baseball teams that don't win every series they play.

Corgan faced two batters last night so I imagine he's got a little left in the tank for today. Turner threw two innings but we've certainly been known to bring a guy back out after more than that. The only guy who done for the rest of the weekend is Meyer.

And whats to say that Corgan would have faired better as the starter last night than he did as a reliever?

Frankly, I' done discussing this with you....it's just not worth the time and frusration



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twk
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Artimus Gordon: The strategy you advocate is the one that is adopted by losers. Always has been, always will be. Maybe, if you're going up a future top 5 draft pick, you might do that once every three or four years. You don't do it playing OU with some green kid on the mound, and you sure don't do it every week. If you do, you're just setting yourself up for failure.
Artimus Gordon
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The hell it is! The objective is to win min 2 out of 3 on the road. Especially when your team can barely get the ball out of the infield. You have to make the most of every opportunity you get especially on the road.

We were damn lucky to win that game last night, else we would be staring at 1-3 and having to win a DH just to get back to .500.



W
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we can discuss pitching until we're blue in the face, but the Ags will go no where in 2005 with this utterly pathetic offense.

3 games now with 1 or less runs scored. Horrible.
 
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