In defense of Earley

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bulverdeaggie93
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LB… agree… i don't think that's who he is.. so in those cases, i'd say don't try to act something you're not.
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Renn_dls said:

I had the privilege of attending the Friday t.u. game with Travis Chestnut. On the way to the game, we discussed being a first-year head coach, and I had never seen a man fight so hard to make me understand Earley's perspective. He explained his current coach at St. Edwards and his journey. During his current coach's first year, he made numerous mistakes and had a dreadful season. However, they are now third in their conference and are about to head to the playoffs. I fear that many of you, including me, have no idea what we are talking about. We see the bare basic numbers and say that's the end-all be-all. However, after gaining an inside perspective from Travis on how coaches, teams, and players feel and operate, I can confidently say that we need to give Earley another year. Let him make the decisions he has to make. There have been massive improvements all season, and we need to let the man do what he needs to do.


My hesitation is more because I respectully disagree with the bolded statement. I'm not confident that the improvements have been a result of coaching.

The starting pitching has not improved as the season has progressed.

The bullpen has not improved as the season has progressed.

Our hitting has improved as the season has progressed - but only because they started SO badly it was hard to not improve from. I would say they're close to what the expectation was coming into the season but have not met it. They have also not shown the ability to stop pressing at the plate under pressure.

[I also greatly wish Nutty had been able to come back - he would have made a huge difference in the lineup playing 2B after Grahovac. He's having a fantastic year at St Edwards]
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Captain Pablo said:

Iraq2xVeteran said:

We have to let this season play out before evaluating Michael Earley's first season. After a 1-9 SEC start, I did not think we were going to win more than 8 SEC games, but we won 7 of 8 SEC games before getting swept by the No. 1 team by the narrowest of margins. Yes, it was a gut punch, especially the 3rd game in which we led by multiple runs on multiple occasions, but we still have a good chance of reaching the tournament. We have 3 SEC series against LSU, Missouri, and Georgia remaining. We will probably need to win 6 of our last 9 SEC games to finish 14-16 in SEC play to make the tournament. If we make the tournament, we might face Texas again.


Yeah it might take 6 to make it

If we make the post season, Early gets another year

If not, no

Everyone that doesn't want to give Earley another year need to listen to the interview with Mark Johnson.
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SHSU-AG said:

Captain Pablo said:

Iraq2xVeteran said:

We have to let this season play out before evaluating Michael Earley's first season. After a 1-9 SEC start, I did not think we were going to win more than 8 SEC games, but we won 7 of 8 SEC games before getting swept by the No. 1 team by the narrowest of margins. Yes, it was a gut punch, especially the 3rd game in which we led by multiple runs on multiple occasions, but we still have a good chance of reaching the tournament. We have 3 SEC series against LSU, Missouri, and Georgia remaining. We will probably need to win 6 of our last 9 SEC games to finish 14-16 in SEC play to make the tournament. If we make the tournament, we might face Texas again.


Yeah it might take 6 to make it

If we make the post season, Early gets another year

If not, no

Everyone that doesn't want to give Earley another year need to listen to the interview with Mark Johnson.


No. We don't
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Captain Pablo said:

SHSU-AG said:

Captain Pablo said:

Iraq2xVeteran said:

We have to let this season play out before evaluating Michael Earley's first season. After a 1-9 SEC start, I did not think we were going to win more than 8 SEC games, but we won 7 of 8 SEC games before getting swept by the No. 1 team by the narrowest of margins. Yes, it was a gut punch, especially the 3rd game in which we led by multiple runs on multiple occasions, but we still have a good chance of reaching the tournament. We have 3 SEC series against LSU, Missouri, and Georgia remaining. We will probably need to win 6 of our last 9 SEC games to finish 14-16 in SEC play to make the tournament. If we make the tournament, we might face Texas again.


Yeah it might take 6 to make it

If we make the post season, Early gets another year

If not, no

Everyone that doesn't want to give Earley another year need to listen to the interview with Mark Johnson.


No. We don't

Typical response from this board. Thank God you have zero say in any of the process.
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Captain Pablo
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SHSU-AG said:

Captain Pablo said:

SHSU-AG said:

Captain Pablo said:

Iraq2xVeteran said:

We have to let this season play out before evaluating Michael Earley's first season. After a 1-9 SEC start, I did not think we were going to win more than 8 SEC games, but we won 7 of 8 SEC games before getting swept by the No. 1 team by the narrowest of margins. Yes, it was a gut punch, especially the 3rd game in which we led by multiple runs on multiple occasions, but we still have a good chance of reaching the tournament. We have 3 SEC series against LSU, Missouri, and Georgia remaining. We will probably need to win 6 of our last 9 SEC games to finish 14-16 in SEC play to make the tournament. If we make the tournament, we might face Texas again.


Yeah it might take 6 to make it

If we make the post season, Early gets another year

If not, no

Everyone that doesn't want to give Earley another year need to listen to the interview with Mark Johnson.


No. We don't

Typical response from this board. Thank God you have zero say in any of the process.


Nor do you, non-Ag

Thank goodness
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Captain Pablo said:

SHSU-AG said:

Captain Pablo said:

SHSU-AG said:

Captain Pablo said:

Iraq2xVeteran said:

We have to let this season play out before evaluating Michael Earley's first season. After a 1-9 SEC start, I did not think we were going to win more than 8 SEC games, but we won 7 of 8 SEC games before getting swept by the No. 1 team by the narrowest of margins. Yes, it was a gut punch, especially the 3rd game in which we led by multiple runs on multiple occasions, but we still have a good chance of reaching the tournament. We have 3 SEC series against LSU, Missouri, and Georgia remaining. We will probably need to win 6 of our last 9 SEC games to finish 14-16 in SEC play to make the tournament. If we make the tournament, we might face Texas again.


Yeah it might take 6 to make it

If we make the post season, Early gets another year

If not, no

Everyone that doesn't want to give Earley another year need to listen to the interview with Mark Johnson.


No. We don't

Typical response from this board. Thank God you have zero say in any of the process.


Nor do you, non-Ag

Thank goodness

True, I didn't go to school here, but as a season ticket holder, I support these coaches and players a lot more than the a lot on and off this forum.
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RED AG 98 said:

Not that it's going to matter for some of you, but in his interview today Earley made it clear the bunt was called to 3B, just as you would expect, and that Ben just missed part of the sign...

The task is still find a way to 13 or preferably 14 wins and make some noise in the post-season. Unfortunately the sweep this weekend makes it a more difficult as we need to win 5 or 6 out of 9. Every series from here on out is the most important of the year.

If we get in, try to figure out a way to survive and advance through a Regional. Honestly I think with our starting pitching we're better constructed for Supers and we've clearly shown we *can* play with anyone if the offense shows up...
Texags was calling the bunt stupid Sunday when I clearly stated it was poorly executed. The bunt with two guys on in no outs typically yields at least one run. As you no longer need a hit to get the guy to 3rd home. The odds are higher you will hit into a double play and kill the inning with a righty up as a pulled ball is in front of the runners. Yes this does not play with Moneyball odds but a run is a run and you take what you can get. Also the bunt has to be to 3rd and past the pitcher to force 3B to vacate the area and give up the base. 1B does not have to hold the runner with two on and thus can crash as hard as he wants thus he was sitting right there and is it relatively easy play to 3rd.

Royo also screwed up the coverage on the bunt by Texas that lead to the tie game.

So as well as he hit he cost us two runs on Sunday. Although he was not the only one. TK did as well in the 2nd with his bunt and Kent did in the first when he did not put a ball in play with runners on first and third and one out.

Lots of opportunities missed by a team showing lack of discipline. Thats a 4 run swing and thus a 7-3 game.

If I am not mistaken Earley is responsible for the discipline on this team. Thus why he is not ready to be elite.
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SHSU-AG said:

Captain Pablo said:

SHSU-AG said:

Captain Pablo said:

SHSU-AG said:

Captain Pablo said:

Iraq2xVeteran said:

We have to let this season play out before evaluating Michael Earley's first season. After a 1-9 SEC start, I did not think we were going to win more than 8 SEC games, but we won 7 of 8 SEC games before getting swept by the No. 1 team by the narrowest of margins. Yes, it was a gut punch, especially the 3rd game in which we led by multiple runs on multiple occasions, but we still have a good chance of reaching the tournament. We have 3 SEC series against LSU, Missouri, and Georgia remaining. We will probably need to win 6 of our last 9 SEC games to finish 14-16 in SEC play to make the tournament. If we make the tournament, we might face Texas again.


Yeah it might take 6 to make it

If we make the post season, Early gets another year

If not, no

Everyone that doesn't want to give Earley another year need to listen to the interview with Mark Johnson.


No. We don't

Typical response from this board. Thank God you have zero say in any of the process.


Nor do you, non-Ag

Thank goodness

True, I didn't go to school here, but as a season ticket holder, I support these coaches and players a lot more than the a lot on and off this forum.


I support them too. Sometimes change needs to happen, though

Don't take it so personal, Rafterman. It's just business
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I'd give him another year depending on if we make a postseason run. Not making a regional is a fireable offense with this talent.
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Ags2013 said:

I'd give him another year depending on if we make a postseason run. Not making a regional is a fireable offense with this talent.


I kind of agree. I really don't like firing a coach after 1 year. I think we could struggle to get out of a regional with our bullpen. The regional format stresses the putching staff so much.
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Not getting out of a regional would be MASSIVELY dissapointing to say the least.

Getting there means you would have to win 5 or 6 against LSU, Mizzou, & UGA so you would be going in proving you're capable
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Renn_dls
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Travis Chestnut is attempting to come back for another year. He told me he's just gotta make some phone calls and put in a waiver to the NCAA
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TAMUallen said:

No, he's not.

I never want to see my coach panicking and looking lost in the dugout when things start to unravel.

You can be an emotional leader. You can not be looking lost and emotional when your initial plans do not work.


Please tell us what was being discussed.
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I'd like to see him bat against the sips
HowdyTexasAggies
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Renn_dls said:

Travis Chestnut is attempting to come back for another year. He told me he's just gotta make some phone calls and put in a waiver to the NCAA
That would be awesome, wish he was on the team this year. I think he was massively underrated. He had the team best BA vs. SEC last year.
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Too many fans that when we lose to the sips they jump overboard and yell fire everybody as they do it.

I am waiting to see how the season ends and how recruiting goes before attempting to evaluate the trajectory of the program, and declare Early a success or bust.
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Agryan00 said:

Like your enthusiasm but Earley has alot of learning to do in a hurry if we are to remain an elite program. I am afraid we are looking at the next RC or by the time he figures it out we are several years down the road. I hope I am wrong.
Rob wasn't given a stacked team in year 1 like Earley. Rob had to rebuild in Year 1. Rob had the Aggies in year 2 & 3 in the Supers, Regionals for years 4 & 5 & CWS in year 6. In six years Rob won 246 games & only missed the season in a year 1 rebuild.
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I agree. Let the season play out for some real discussion to occur. However, it's not just all the losses at this time that's concerning to me though. It's the reasons we are losing. My instincts at this time are telling me he's not the type of coach that will consistently win in the SEC. TBD, if things occur that change this.
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Captain Pablo said:

SHSU-AG said:

Captain Pablo said:

SHSU-AG said:

Captain Pablo said:

SHSU-AG said:

Captain Pablo said:

Iraq2xVeteran said:

We have to let this season play out before evaluating Michael Earley's first season. After a 1-9 SEC start, I did not think we were going to win more than 8 SEC games, but we won 7 of 8 SEC games before getting swept by the No. 1 team by the narrowest of margins. Yes, it was a gut punch, especially the 3rd game in which we led by multiple runs on multiple occasions, but we still have a good chance of reaching the tournament. We have 3 SEC series against LSU, Missouri, and Georgia remaining. We will probably need to win 6 of our last 9 SEC games to finish 14-16 in SEC play to make the tournament. If we make the tournament, we might face Texas again.


Yeah it might take 6 to make it

If we make the post season, Early gets another year

If not, no

Everyone that doesn't want to give Earley another year need to listen to the interview with Mark Johnson.


No. We don't

Typical response from this board. Thank God you have zero say in any of the process.


Nor do you, non-Ag

Thank goodness

True, I didn't go to school here, but as a season ticket holder, I support these coaches and players a lot more than the a lot on and off this forum.


I support them too. Sometimes change needs to happen, though

Don't take it so personal, Rafterman. It's just business

Not personal to me, I don't know Earley and have never spoken to the man. You're right, sometimes change needs to happen, but not before you give him a little time. I think his recruiting will be good and the more he does this the better he'll get. Might be the next Vitello, given the chance. Oh, I forgot, Vitello's no good anymore since we beat them at their place. Sail on…
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AgRyan04
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That is fantastic news!

Good bull!
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W said:

Childress' first team played Augie's longhorns "close" in 2006

and it meant nothing as A&M was swept again in 2007 and 2008

learning on the job takes several years
Interestingly enough, those 2007 and 2008 teams just happened to make the Super Regional as well.

(Oops, missed that fact was noted above)
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W said:

Childress' first team played Augie's longhorns "close" in 2006

and it meant nothing as A&M was swept again in 2007 and 2008

learning on the job takes several years


Right now most people are talking about descions made during the game, that they consider wrong and the hc will learn as he gets older. Every hc on any d1 baseball team has coached and played in a ton of games to ge to that position. Early might have made some wrong descions but they weren't out in left field type choices. Every coach has to make choices and sometimes the players execute them and sometimes they can't. He could have made all the same choices in another series and won all three games. That's how bb works.
Agryan00
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Pretty much my point about Earley being the next RC.

Only difference is maybe Earley figures out how to make it to Omaha and how to win Omaha.

RC really only earned one trip to Omaha. 2017 UH took out the top seed to provide an easy path. Not to mention RC was eliminated by the duesch bag in Austin.
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If you play that mindset for 2017, you have to take the opposite for 2015
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IslanderAg04
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First year head coaches always struggle. Vitello s first year was nothing to brag about. We competed with a number one team on their turf, and were a few plays from it going in our favor. I would be saying something different if we got blown out, but a first year HC competed with a HC veteran that adopted a loaded roster at home.

Let the team cook, enjoy some baseball.
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Did Earley just win over the support of the "he needs to get angry and tossed" crowd?
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IslanderAg04 said:

First year head coaches always struggle. Vitello s first year was nothing to brag about. We competed with a number one team on their turf, and were a few plays from it going in our favor. I would be saying something different if we got blown out, but a first year HC competed with a HC veteran that adopted a loaded roster at home.

Let the team cook, enjoy some baseball.

In his year 1, Vitello didn't inherit one of the most talented rosters in the country either, fresh off a CWS runner up finish.
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TxAg76 said:

IslanderAg04 said:

First year head coaches always struggle. Vitello s first year was nothing to brag about. We competed with a number one team on their turf, and were a few plays from it going in our favor. I would be saying something different if we got blown out, but a first year HC competed with a HC veteran that adopted a loaded roster at home.

Let the team cook, enjoy some baseball.

In his year 1, Vitello didn't inherit one of the most talented rosters in the country either, fresh off a CWS runner up finish.


Talented, yes, most in the country, debatable. Maybe with Gavin and Sdao. Not to mention Sorrell being out a good chunk of the season.
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IslanderAg04 said:

TxAg76 said:

IslanderAg04 said:

First year head coaches always struggle. Vitello s first year was nothing to brag about. We competed with a number one team on their turf, and were a few plays from it going in our favor. I would be saying something different if we got blown out, but a first year HC competed with a HC veteran that adopted a loaded roster at home.

Let the team cook, enjoy some baseball.

In his year 1, Vitello didn't inherit one of the most talented rosters in the country either, fresh off a CWS runner up finish.


Talented, yes, most in the country, debatable. Maybe with Gavin and Sdao. Not to mention Sorrell being out a good chunk of the season.


He said one of the most

Not most in the country
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Captain Pablo said:

IslanderAg04 said:

TxAg76 said:

IslanderAg04 said:

First year head coaches always struggle. Vitello s first year was nothing to brag about. We competed with a number one team on their turf, and were a few plays from it going in our favor. I would be saying something different if we got blown out, but a first year HC competed with a HC veteran that adopted a loaded roster at home.

Let the team cook, enjoy some baseball.

In his year 1, Vitello didn't inherit one of the most talented rosters in the country either, fresh off a CWS runner up finish.


Talented, yes, most in the country, debatable. Maybe with Gavin and Sdao. Not to mention Sorrell being out a good chunk of the season.


He said one of the most

Not most in the country


Play on words. Rpi says otherwise.
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Agryan00 said:

RED AG 98 said:

Not that it's going to matter for some of you, but in his interview today Earley made it clear the bunt was called to 3B, just as you would expect, and that Ben just missed part of the sign...

The task is still find a way to 13 or preferably 14 wins and make some noise in the post-season. Unfortunately the sweep this weekend makes it a more difficult as we need to win 5 or 6 out of 9. Every series from here on out is the most important of the year.

If we get in, try to figure out a way to survive and advance through a Regional. Honestly I think with our starting pitching we're better constructed for Supers and we've clearly shown we *can* play with anyone if the offense shows up...
Texags was calling the bunt stupid Sunday when I clearly stated it was poorly executed. The bunt with two guys on in no outs typically yields at least one run. As you no longer need a hit to get the guy to 3rd home. The odds are higher you will hit into a double play and kill the inning with a righty up as a pulled ball is in front of the runners. Yes this does not play with Moneyball odds but a run is a run and you take what you can get. Also the bunt has to be to 3rd and past the pitcher to force 3B to vacate the area and give up the base. 1B does not have to hold the runner with two on and thus can crash as hard as he wants thus he was sitting right there and is it relatively easy play to 3rd.

Royo also screwed up the coverage on the bunt by Texas that lead to the tie game.

So as well as he hit he cost us two runs on Sunday. Although he was not the only one. TK did as well in the 2nd with his bunt and Kent did in the first when he did not put a ball in play with runners on first and third and one out.

Lots of opportunities missed by a team showing lack of discipline. Thats a 4 run swing and thus a 7-3 game.

If I am not mistaken Earley is responsible for the discipline on this team. Thus why he is not ready to be elite.
So, do you want Earley to sit Royo? For whom?

Players make mistakes.
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TAMU1990 said:

Agryan00 said:

RED AG 98 said:

Not that it's going to matter for some of you, but in his interview today Earley made it clear the bunt was called to 3B, just as you would expect, and that Ben just missed part of the sign...

The task is still find a way to 13 or preferably 14 wins and make some noise in the post-season. Unfortunately the sweep this weekend makes it a more difficult as we need to win 5 or 6 out of 9. Every series from here on out is the most important of the year.

If we get in, try to figure out a way to survive and advance through a Regional. Honestly I think with our starting pitching we're better constructed for Supers and we've clearly shown we *can* play with anyone if the offense shows up...
Texags was calling the bunt stupid Sunday when I clearly stated it was poorly executed. The bunt with two guys on in no outs typically yields at least one run. As you no longer need a hit to get the guy to 3rd home. The odds are higher you will hit into a double play and kill the inning with a righty up as a pulled ball is in front of the runners. Yes this does not play with Moneyball odds but a run is a run and you take what you can get. Also the bunt has to be to 3rd and past the pitcher to force 3B to vacate the area and give up the base. 1B does not have to hold the runner with two on and thus can crash as hard as he wants thus he was sitting right there and is it relatively easy play to 3rd.

Royo also screwed up the coverage on the bunt by Texas that lead to the tie game.

So as well as he hit he cost us two runs on Sunday. Although he was not the only one. TK did as well in the 2nd with his bunt and Kent did in the first when he did not put a ball in play with runners on first and third and one out.

Lots of opportunities missed by a team showing lack of discipline. Thats a 4 run swing and thus a 7-3 game.

If I am not mistaken Earley is responsible for the discipline on this team. Thus why he is not ready to be elite.
So, do you want Earley to sit Royo? For whom?

Players make mistakes.


With this dudes thinking, a player will hit 1k if they have "discipline".
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IslanderAg04 said:

Captain Pablo said:

IslanderAg04 said:

TxAg76 said:

IslanderAg04 said:

First year head coaches always struggle. Vitello s first year was nothing to brag about. We competed with a number one team on their turf, and were a few plays from it going in our favor. I would be saying something different if we got blown out, but a first year HC competed with a HC veteran that adopted a loaded roster at home.

Let the team cook, enjoy some baseball.

In his year 1, Vitello didn't inherit one of the most talented rosters in the country either, fresh off a CWS runner up finish.


Talented, yes, most in the country, debatable. Maybe with Gavin and Sdao. Not to mention Sorrell being out a good chunk of the season.


He said one of the most

Not most in the country


Play on words. Rpi says otherwise.


Play on words my ass. You misrepresented what he said

RPi doesn't dispute what he said. RPI reflects performance

RPI is NOT a measure of talent
Captain Pablo
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IslanderAg04 said:

TAMU1990 said:

Agryan00 said:

RED AG 98 said:

Not that it's going to matter for some of you, but in his interview today Earley made it clear the bunt was called to 3B, just as you would expect, and that Ben just missed part of the sign...

The task is still find a way to 13 or preferably 14 wins and make some noise in the post-season. Unfortunately the sweep this weekend makes it a more difficult as we need to win 5 or 6 out of 9. Every series from here on out is the most important of the year.

If we get in, try to figure out a way to survive and advance through a Regional. Honestly I think with our starting pitching we're better constructed for Supers and we've clearly shown we *can* play with anyone if the offense shows up...
Texags was calling the bunt stupid Sunday when I clearly stated it was poorly executed. The bunt with two guys on in no outs typically yields at least one run. As you no longer need a hit to get the guy to 3rd home. The odds are higher you will hit into a double play and kill the inning with a righty up as a pulled ball is in front of the runners. Yes this does not play with Moneyball odds but a run is a run and you take what you can get. Also the bunt has to be to 3rd and past the pitcher to force 3B to vacate the area and give up the base. 1B does not have to hold the runner with two on and thus can crash as hard as he wants thus he was sitting right there and is it relatively easy play to 3rd.

Royo also screwed up the coverage on the bunt by Texas that lead to the tie game.

So as well as he hit he cost us two runs on Sunday. Although he was not the only one. TK did as well in the 2nd with his bunt and Kent did in the first when he did not put a ball in play with runners on first and third and one out.

Lots of opportunities missed by a team showing lack of discipline. Thats a 4 run swing and thus a 7-3 game.

If I am not mistaken Earley is responsible for the discipline on this team. Thus why he is not ready to be elite.
So, do you want Earley to sit Royo? For whom?

Players make mistakes.


With this dudes thinking, a player will hit 1k if they have "discipline".


Putting words in people's mouth again

You do that a lot
 
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