Hiring Earley was a huge mistake

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TAMUallen said:

Capitol Ag said:

Aggie Michael said:

Makes you wonder what the leaders at A&M are doing. We need a clean slate. Obviously these generals with no experience running a university are not working out and are not able to elevate A&M academically or athletically. They appear to make poor hires and decisions. A&M is not military branch nor a political branch. It's a results oriented group in which you need to achieve.

Need either business people or professional academic administrators to come on and then make the hires based on their backgrounds and ability to elevate A&M to secure our investments.

It's always the same story: spend a ton of money, get new facilities but most of the time they make poor hires / decisions (sometimes they nickel and dime people at the end for key roles) at the most critical aspects so you end up underachieving annually.

Need to take the Warren Buffet approach - fire all the bad leaders and hire goods and things will turn around. Got to start at the top.


Yet Albert's literally got us a massive media rights deal, the largest ever in college sports history. Yet, our leadership is the problem…


I mean it's a 15 year deal. There's an issue with that


There's been quite a few on premium that are pretty well connected that seem to think the 15 years is t an issue at all.
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It might not work out but would you have rather hired another tier 2 candidate and watch all of our stars leave? Because O'Connor and Vitello were off the table at that point.

Not only does that hurt the team this year but it would've KILLED this fanbase had Jace or Gavin gone to Tennessee, LSU or God forbid Texas.

Rolling the dice on Earley in order to keep the roster intact was still the right call. If it really goes off the rails we can fire him for cheap and just start over again next year in the same position we would've been this year had we not hired him.

You can think the team is poorly coached while also thinking AT THE TIME it was the right call given the timing and circumstances of the hire.

And by no means take this as me defending the job Earley has done through 8 games. We look terrible. But I will still defend the decision because I think it was the right risk to take given the situation at hand.
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trouble said:

It's truth. Some of y'all got some really funny misinformation you like to spread.

Yes, they lobbied for him. That's not the only factor that got him hired.

I would have loved to have seen this board in July if Trev had completely ignored them and refused to even interview Earley.
exactly
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Of course 15 years is an issue on that deal. 5-8 years too long. Thst said, we don't know the fine print and possible outs.
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

trouble said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Aggies will be lamenting not giving Schloss a stadium renovation, that he was promised, for years to come.


It was never about this.


Keep telling yourself that.


The texas coach was gonna leave the first chance he got.

Once he ran thru the wife swapping community in BCS he started looking for greener pastures.


I am part of the problem and you're the victim...
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That is the bottom line. It's a role someone needs to fill and any coach would need to figure that out during the season. If he fails to do that, then we can criticize. But it's a long season and we will get stronger and play our best ball in conference and postseason.
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Fairview20 said:

I still think hiring Earley was the right call regardless of how this season plays out. With this roster coming back you roll the dice on him.

If we had hired someone like Skip Johnson and Jace, Gavin, and Sorrell were playing for Tennessee, LSU, Texas, etc there would be absolutely no enthusiasm for the program at all even if he's a good coach.

You don't throw away generational talent when you have it.

Earley also does not have a big contract commitment so if it really goes off the rails it will not be expensive to start over and be back to where we would've been in July had we hired someone else.


This is exactly it. Well said. Gamble on this season with the talent and the upside potential. If it doesn't work out, move on quickly
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Aggies will be lamenting not giving Schloss a stadium renovation, that he was promised, for years to come.


For the umpteenth time, POS got the renovation. It is happening and was announced while he was still here. That was always an excuse. He wanted to be with CDC. He wanted to be in a town that he could be free to have the lifestyle he wanted. He was mad he didn't get to make the AD decision. He's now with his buddy, in a town that no he can feel more comfortable in and he ain't getting a stadium renovation any time soon. That's the irony.
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Pepesilvia said:

Fairview20 said:

I still think hiring Earley was the right call regardless of how this season plays out. With this roster coming back you roll the dice on him.

If we had hired someone like Skip Johnson and Jace, Gavin, and Sorrell were playing for Tennessee, LSU, Texas, etc there would be absolutely no enthusiasm for the program at all even if he's a good coach.

You don't throw away generational talent when you have it.

Earley also does not have a big contract commitment so if it really goes off the rails it will not be expensive to start over and be back to where we would've been in July had we hired someone else.


This is exactly it. Well said. Gamble on this season with the talent and the upside potential. If it doesn't work out, move on quickly


Moving on quickly won't be in the cards. So let's all pray Earley figures it out.
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Believe me, I'm praying
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dBoy99 said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

trouble said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Aggies will be lamenting not giving Schloss a stadium renovation, that he was promised, for years to come.


It was never about this.


Keep telling yourself that.


The texas coach was gonna leave the first chance he got.

Once he ran thru the wife swapping community in BCS he started looking for greener pastures.


A&M reneged on their promise of a baseball palace to Schloss. He would still be here had the dumbasses in charge kept their promise.
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I don't think they'd pull the trigger after one year but if we underachieve this year (mediocre season, regional exit or worse) than next year would be make or break. We don't have a large financial commitment to him and following 2026 Sorrell and Grahovac would be gone anyway.
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

trouble said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Aggies will be lamenting not giving Schloss a stadium renovation, that he was promised, for years to come.


It was never about this.


Keep telling yourself that.


He's not getting one in Austin either and their facilities are trash.
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dBoy99 said:

texas knew what they were doing.

This funk is not all Earley's fault. Tony LaRusa would have his hands full with the bad juju we're battling.


It was a perfect storm that kinda fell into tu's lap. CDC knew his friendship with POS would open the door. Hell, they spoke almost weekly. They are that good of friends. So CDC knew every possible thing that Schloss could have had an issue with at A&M and easily could play that against us. Imagine your bestie is the CEO of a major competitor and you talk weekly. How hard would it be to convince you to come work for him? And if the rumors about his personal life are true, Austin would be a friendlier place to live that lifestyle. Again, that's my biggest gripe. What are the freaking odds you end up with your HC's best friend running your biggest rival's Ath. dept? We really can have some bad luck. But I do ask, could we have figured this out early enough to protect us or just go with Vitello the first time around?

What sucks is tu got to have the coach they wanted while simultaneously knocking out baseball program back potentially. Sure, we definitely made an amazing turn around optic-wise. That's why there is so much pressure on this team. Win it all and we undo whatever momentum tu took from us. But that's just it. That will be very hard to do and not fair to our players honestly. This team doesn't need to make up for tu stealing Schloss. That's too much to put on them.
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Posted this on the game thread - should have put it here.

I'm not completely knowledgeable about how the coaching search went, but it seems that once we got a "no" from Tony V., we put all our eggs in the Early basket pretty quickly. Coming off a CWS appearance and only one win away from the NC, could we not find a proven head coach or even a guy who had BEEN a head coach? At least kick some tires. This is too big of a position to break in a first time guy. Players shouldn't have been able to hold the program hostage.

Seems that we gave away any leverage we had following our best run in the history of our school to appease a few kids who would only be around for 1-2 more years at most vs. a proven coach who could ideally be around for a decade or more.
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Fairview20 said:

I don't think they'd pull the trigger after one year but if we underachieve this year (mediocre season, regional exit or worse) than next year would be make or break. We don't have a large financial commitment to him and following 2026 Sorrell and Grahovac would be gone anyway.


Sorrell and grahovac will be playing somewhere else is in 2026 if this season goes off the rails
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Capstone said:

Posted this on the game thread - should have put it here.

I'm not completely knowledgeable about how the coaching search went, but it seems that once we got a "no" from Tony V., we put all our eggs in the Early basket pretty quickly. Coming off a CWS appearance and only one win away from the NC, could we not find a proven head coach or even a guy who had BEEN a head coach? At least kick some tires. This is too big of a position to break in a first time guy. Players shouldn't have been able to hold the program hostage.

Seems that we gave away any leverage we had following our best run in the history of our school to appease a few kids who would only be around for 1-2 more years at most vs. a proven coach who could ideally be around for a decade or more.


This. A&M panicked and listened to the players instead of going after a proven head coach. It was extremely short sighted.
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

dBoy99 said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

trouble said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Aggies will be lamenting not giving Schloss a stadium renovation, that he was promised, for years to come.


It was never about this.


Keep telling yourself that.


The texas coach was gonna leave the first chance he got.

Once he ran thru the wife swapping community in BCS he started looking for greener pastures.


A&M reneged on their promise of a baseball palace to Schloss. He would still be here had the dumbasses in charge kept their promise.


When exactly did we reneg?

Was it in April 2024?


I am part of the problem and you're the victim...
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It was a mistake.
TAMU should never and I repeat never be your first head coaching job!
But hey… we kept some players.
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Fairview20 said:

I still think hiring Earley was the right call regardless of how this season plays out. With this roster coming back you roll the dice on him.

If we had hired someone like Skip Johnson and Jace, Gavin, and Sorrell were playing for Tennessee, LSU, Texas, etc there would be absolutely no enthusiasm for the program at all even if he's a good coach.

You don't throw away generational talent when you have it.

Earley also does not have a big contract commitment so if it really goes off the rails it will not be expensive to start over and be back to where we would've been in July had we hired someone else.
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dBoy99 said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

dBoy99 said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

trouble said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Aggies will be lamenting not giving Schloss a stadium renovation, that he was promised, for years to come.


It was never about this.


Keep telling yourself that.


The texas coach was gonna leave the first chance he got.

Once he ran thru the wife swapping community in BCS he started looking for greener pastures.


A&M reneged on their promise of a baseball palace to Schloss. He would still be here had the dumbasses in charge kept their promise.


When exactly did we reneg?

Was it in April 2024?


Exactly what I said. He was promised a baseball palace.
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Great2BeAnAGGIE said:

It was a mistake.
TAMU should never and I repeat never be your first head coaching job!
But hey… we kept some players.


Since you know the future, can you give me the winning lotto numbers for Saturday night's drawing?


I am part of the problem and you're the victim...
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

dBoy99 said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

dBoy99 said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

trouble said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Aggies will be lamenting not giving Schloss a stadium renovation, that he was promised, for years to come.


It was never about this.


Keep telling yourself that.


The texas coach was gonna leave the first chance he got.

Once he ran thru the wife swapping community in BCS he started looking for greener pastures.


A&M reneged on their promise of a baseball palace to Schloss. He would still be here had the dumbasses in charge kept their promise.


When exactly did we reneg?

Was it in April 2024?


Exactly what I said. He was promised a baseball palace.


So when did we tell the texas coach "sorry, we're not building you a new stadium?"


I am part of the problem and you're the victim...
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Capitol Ag said:

Luke The Drifter said:

Tadpole said:

Get real. Way too early to.make that call.


Is it? When was the last time an A&M team played this poorly?


2022. A CWS final 4 team. Lost all 3 games in Frisco. Looked BAD too.


This is true. We looked like absolute dog crap that weekend in Frisco. Thought all the predictions about us being 5th or 6th in the SECW might have been optimistic

The precedent for a turnaround is there. The weekend starters are bringing it, which is encouraging. But damn. Just put the stick on the ball occasionally just to give us an ounce of hope
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So when did we tell the texas coach "sorry, we're not building you a new stadium?"
Must've been at one of those meetings Schloss didn't show up for?
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dBoy99 said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

dBoy99 said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

dBoy99 said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

trouble said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Aggies will be lamenting not giving Schloss a stadium renovation, that he was promised, for years to come.


It was never about this.


Keep telling yourself that.


The texas coach was gonna leave the first chance he got.

Once he ran thru the wife swapping community in BCS he started looking for greener pastures.


A&M reneged on their promise of a baseball palace to Schloss. He would still be here had the dumbasses in charge kept their promise.


When exactly did we reneg?

Was it in April 2024?


Exactly what I said. He was promised a baseball palace.


So when did we tell the texas coach "sorry, we're not building you a new stadium?"


Where is it? Schloss was here for 3 years and nothing ever happened. I bet he gets a new stadium at sip before bluebell gets renovated. I bet bluebell only gets renovated in response to them getting renovated. Thats how A&M works. They only react to the sips.
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

dBoy99 said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

dBoy99 said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

dBoy99 said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

trouble said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Aggies will be lamenting not giving Schloss a stadium renovation, that he was promised, for years to come.


It was never about this.


Keep telling yourself that.


The texas coach was gonna leave the first chance he got.

Once he ran thru the wife swapping community in BCS he started looking for greener pastures.


A&M reneged on their promise of a baseball palace to Schloss. He would still be here had the dumbasses in charge kept their promise.


When exactly did we reneg?

Was it in April 2024?


Exactly what I said. He was promised a baseball palace.


So when did we tell the texas coach "sorry, we're not building you a new stadium?"


Where is it? Schloss was here for 3 years and nothing ever happened. I bet he gets a new stadium at sip before bluebell gets renovated. I bet bluebell only gets renovated in response to them getting renovated. Thats how A&M works. They only react to the sips.


So you don't know. That's what I thought. Carry on.


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dBoy99 said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

dBoy99 said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

dBoy99 said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

trouble said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Aggies will be lamenting not giving Schloss a stadium renovation, that he was promised, for years to come.


It was never about this.


Keep telling yourself that.


The texas coach was gonna leave the first chance he got.

Once he ran thru the wife swapping community in BCS he started looking for greener pastures.


A&M reneged on their promise of a baseball palace to Schloss. He would still be here had the dumbasses in charge kept their promise.


When exactly did we reneg?

Was it in April 2024?


Exactly what I said. He was promised a baseball palace.


So when did we tell the texas coach "sorry, we're not building you a new stadium?"
And what makes you think sippie will be able to in a more timely manner renovate their current dump of a ballpark (by SEC standards) or produce him a brand spanking new palace than A&M. Olsen if a perfectly fine but smallish (again by SEC standards) ballpark..
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Slided bread said:

Fairview20 said:

I don't think they'd pull the trigger after one year but if we underachieve this year (mediocre season, regional exit or worse) than next year would be make or break. We don't have a large financial commitment to him and following 2026 Sorrell and Grahovac would be gone anyway.


Sorrell and grahovac will be playing somewhere else is in 2026 if this season goes off the rails

This.
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dBoy99 said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

dBoy99 said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

dBoy99 said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

dBoy99 said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

trouble said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Aggies will be lamenting not giving Schloss a stadium renovation, that he was promised, for years to come.


It was never about this.


Keep telling yourself that.


The texas coach was gonna leave the first chance he got.

Once he ran thru the wife swapping community in BCS he started looking for greener pastures.


A&M reneged on their promise of a baseball palace to Schloss. He would still be here had the dumbasses in charge kept their promise.


When exactly did we reneg?

Was it in April 2024?


Exactly what I said. He was promised a baseball palace.


So when did we tell the texas coach "sorry, we're not building you a new stadium?"


Where is it? Schloss was here for 3 years and nothing ever happened. I bet he gets a new stadium at sip before bluebell gets renovated. I bet bluebell only gets renovated in response to them getting renovated. Thats how A&M works. They only react to the sips.


So you don't know. That's what I thought. Carry on.


You don't remember Schloss talking about the stadium he was promised when he got hired?
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Who cares what the players want? They are 18-22 year old kids? They don't know about coaching and they are here to learn how to play better baseball and need a mentor/coach. If the AD made a decision of the kids' feedback (and expertise on hiring a coach), then he should be fired.

Coaches can make/build/break a team.
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1. Why would anyone believe a thing that worthless, lying, sack of **** said?

2. The fact that you don't know when or if A&M said "sorry we are not building a stadium" proves you don't know what you're talking about.


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Aggie Michael said:

Who cares what the players want? They are 18-22 year old kids? They don't know about coaching and they are here to learn how to play better baseball and need a mentor/coach. If the AD made a decision of the kids' feedback (and expertise on hiring a coach), then he should be fired.

Coaches can make/build/break a team.


A&M panicked and listened to the players.
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You supported this hire when it was made because it kept said players on campus.
 
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