Serious Q. Do you think S is a sociopath and/or narcissist?

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Divining Rod
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2:33p, 7/6/24

I was watching that recent special on Lance Armstrong and it was really telling that there were certain things he couldnt admit, couodn't firgive, and could 't accept. I came away thinking he was a sociopath and researched a little. There are a lot of people more trained in this who said the same things.

From what I understand of those personality disorders, S sure appears to fit the bill to a T. This isn't about someone being an A-hole, or selfish, or arrogant or mean.

Rather, a true disorder. An inability or serious impairment preventing them from feeling empathy in a "normal" way, and inflating their own worth and needs to a point not meshing w reality or taking into account the lives of others.

my own words- not a definition or "diagnoses" He's obviously very talented and intelligent.
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Randy Rhodes
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2:35p, 7/6/24
Maybe
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2:45p, 7/6/24
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How you doing rip van winkle.

Mrs. Chestnut called him a narcissistic A$$ on day one that he left.
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2:55p, 7/6/24
Both, but a lot of successful people are
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3:00p, 7/6/24
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I think he's a highly successful head coach that works at a high level. Every single one of them I've met has been a huge dick. Every one. I think it's a requirement for the job. If you think a HC is not a narcissist and psychopath he probably is just better at image management. Or cares more about what people think. Or both.
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3:06p, 7/6/24
I seriously always thought Schloss was angry and unhappy. His personality always reminded me of Don Henley. No matter how accomplished, successful, or rich, they just seemed mad at the world. Sad.
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In reply to well_endowed_ag • 3:11p, 7/6/24
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well_endowed_ag said:
Both, but a lot of successful people are
My question is, is it possible to be successful at the highest levels without being a sociopath?
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AGinHI
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3:13p, 7/6/24
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Sociopath - I'm sorry, but that is ridiculous.

Narcissism - gets thrown around a lot lately. I have used it myself in describing POS and what I believe is his underlying motivation.

However, it's all conjecture.
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In reply to AGinHI • 3:19p, 7/6/24
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AGinHI said:
Sociopath - I'm sorry, but that is ridiculous.

Narcissism - gets thrown around a lot lately. I have used it myself in describing POS and what I believe is his underlying motivation.

However, it's all conjecture.
Depends on how you define sociopath.

Narcissists often have sociopathic tendencies because they only care about themselves.
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AGinHI
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In reply to dermdoc • 3:27p, 7/6/24
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We're redefining a lot of mental health terms, of which I disagree.

Take for example trauma, more specifically PTSD. Everybody has it now in some way, shape, or form

because of how we define it.
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3:28p, 7/6/24
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Yes. No doubt. He reminds me of Lance Armstrong.
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3:54p, 7/6/24
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IMO he is a liar that lacks integrity. I don't need to analyze him any further than that.
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In reply to Captn_Ag05 • 4:00p, 7/6/24
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Exactly

Look up the 10 commandments by George Carlin. He reduces them down to 1-2 commandments and Schloss broke that one.
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4:01p, 7/6/24
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Let's put POS in the past. Not our problem anymore. It's all conjecture anyways. Players didn't like him, all I need to know. Good riddance. Excited for the Earley Era!
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Leonard H. Stringfield
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6:19p, 7/6/24
He has issues for sure. Don't think I'd want my child around the guy.

Or the cats.
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6:29p, 7/6/24
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Schloss should hire a public relations person to tell him to shut up a lot…
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In reply to well_endowed_ag • 6:46p, 7/6/24
well_endowed_ag said:
Both, but a lot of successful people are
so why ya calling me?[/howardstern
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7:28p, 7/6/24
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Look at his actions, he's clearly got some major issues. Take Zane's question as an example, he could have easily deflected and said tonight is about the kids, let us have this moment for them. But he had to make it all about him, and his contempt for anyone who dare question him shined through. In addition, he goes to his go to move, bold face lie which he knows is a lie but tells it anyways, why? Because that is what Sociopaths do.
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In reply to AGinHI • 7:34p, 7/6/24
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AGinHI said:
We're redefining a lot of mental health terms, of which I disagree.

Take for example trauma, more specifically PTSD. Everybody has it now in some way, shape, or form

because of how we define it.
FWIW, psychiatrists redefine mental health terms like once a month. Why I did not become one.

And mental illness is by far the most rampant disease in the US in my opinion.
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7:39p, 7/6/24
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Narcissist.

Many players parents have said the same.
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Buford T. Justice
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7:55p, 7/6/24
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Life has a way of humbling us.
Success came early for Jimmy Schloss, and he's enjoyed it for a long time.
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8:00p, 7/6/24
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I would tend to think that we've all seen it in our own professional careers…often times, those that rise to the top leadership position in a company, they are great self promoters, and can sling the bs as needed to appease the decision makers. It's a little bit of smoke and mirrors,- a little bit risk taking, but those that I've seen also have the ability to temporarily put their morals in their back pocket. (If they even have morals.)

Meanwhile, the worker bees keep doing a good job.
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8:16p, 7/6/24
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But, when those folks catch a big wave of momentum early on, like Schlossdoogle, then the ego can really take off.
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In reply to Divining Rod • 8:21p, 7/6/24
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Divining Rod said:

I was watching that recent special on Lance Armstrong and it was really telling that there were certain things he couldnt admit, couodn't firgive, and could 't accept. I came away thinking he was a sociopath and researched a little. There are a lot of people more trained in this who said the same things.

From what I understand of those personality disorders, S sure appears to fit the bill to a T. This isn't about someone being an A-hole, or selfish, or arrogant or mean.

Rather, a true disorder. An inability or serious impairment preventing them from feeling empathy in a "normal" way, and inflating their own worth and needs to a point not meshing w reality or taking into account the lives of others.

my own words- not a definition or "diagnoses" He's obviously very talented and intelligent.

Look at his recent pics. The grease ball doesn't smile. When he does it looks forced. If you don't have some type of communication with your players, that's a huge Red Flag to me.
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In reply to dermdoc • 8:38p, 7/6/24
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dermdoc said:
AGinHI said:
We're redefining a lot of mental health terms, of which I disagree.

Take for example trauma, more specifically PTSD. Everybody has it now in some way, shape, or form

because of how we define it.
FWIW, psychiatrists redefine mental health terms like once a month. Why I did not become one.

And mental illness is by far the most rampant disease in the US in my opinion.
I'm a licensed clinical psychologist btw.

Spent time with some real sociopaths.

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In reply to AGinHI • 9:19p, 7/6/24
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They are terrifying. I had one when I was doing home hospice. I never went to his home alone even when he was completely weak and dying. Gave me chills just to sit next to him.
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In reply to trouble • 9:27p, 7/6/24
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Make the hair stand up on the back of your neck, yeah?
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In reply to AGinHI • 9:29p, 7/6/24
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The moment he first looked at me. I did almost 7 years in trauma critical care at Brackenridge. He's the only patient who truly scared me.
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9:32p, 7/6/24
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9:37p, 7/6/24
Read The Sociopath Next Door. It's entirely possible that Schloss is a sociopath. Not ridiculous at all.
94chem,
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12:49a, 7/7/24
I mentioned Armstrong. There was one telling interview which kind of reminded me of S and "The Question".

He was talking about doping and how it's just the questioning that makes you a liar. If you dope, and you are questioned or accused, you are forced to lie. If no one asked the question, then you wouldnt also have to be a liar.

I was like "wow!!" he seemed to be pissed at everyone asking and investigating, and appeared oblivous to the fact that if he was doping he was ALREADY lying by competing in an event where it is not allowed.

And the people he destroyed along the way,
who were just honest people doing their jobs. It was kind of chilling watching that and seeing a man so lost who lacked such self awareness.

My thoughts went to Zane and S's response when questioned. You see the same thing re Alberts and hiw S reacted and has blamed our AD for his departure.

Scary stuff.

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In reply to 94chem • 7:24a, 7/7/24
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94chem said:
Read The Sociopath Next Door. It's entirely possible that Schloss is a sociopath. Not ridiculous at all.

Such a good book. Truly eye opening
Gig 'Em, Ags
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In reply to Girlhowdy • 7:39a, 7/7/24
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No conscious, no guilt is the easiest way to identify one. If you know someone for a long time and they have never once done a real apology. That's a red flag.
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7:42a, 7/7/24
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Im not sure, but I am sure that he is a ****** bag.
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In reply to AGinHI • 9:08a, 7/7/24
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AGinHI said:
dermdoc said:
AGinHI said:
We're redefining a lot of mental health terms, of which I disagree.

Take for example trauma, more specifically PTSD. Everybody has it now in some way, shape, or form

because of how we define it.
FWIW, psychiatrists redefine mental health terms like once a month. Why I did not become one.

And mental illness is by far the most rampant disease in the US in my opinion.
I'm a licensed clinical psychologist btw.

Spent time with some real sociopaths.

Then you know more than me.
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