Kent Defense Narrative

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Killzone3abc
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What's with the wierd narrative about Kaeden Kents defense? I've seen several posters (mostly on premium) put him down in regards to being able to play SS in college. I don't get it. Am I missing something?

He looked to be clearly better than most 2nd basemen defensively this year. Lots of range, quick transfers, accurate throws, and great communication. Are these just nonbaseball fans that decided they wanted to crap on Kent for some reason or am I missing a flaw in his defense? Genuinely asking.
Dr. Horrible
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Yes to your first question
OKCAGS
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Arm strength is the only question ( IMO ) ….. he does everything else at an elite level . If a SS has great footwork , you can still be a plus defender …. Even with an average arm . Look at Haas in 2023 and Kenny Jackson in 2011 .
The Agly Duckling
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Kent is incredibly talented and I am thrilled we have him - and many others - on our team to root like hell for.
OKCAGS
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Agreed . Kent can play SS for us all next year and we will not miss a beat .
TarponChaser
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OKCAGS said:

Agreed . Kent can play SS for us all next year and we will not miss a beat .


I wouldn't go that far. Kent can be adequate at SS and probably have more pop at the plate but you're shortchanging Camarillo. His defense this season was elite and saved a lot of outs for us.
HECUBUS
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I think the only issue at SS is Ali.
cmac94
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Arm strength? He played 3rd at one point and absolutely threw a laser across the diamond. Not sure why anyone would question his arm.
LB12Diamond
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You listened to premium posters. Big mistake.
Sean98
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Kent doesn't seem to have the range or raw arm talent that Ali has. That's no knock on KK, because Ali is borderline elite there. Kent's arm is plenty strong when everything is perfect in his base. Feett set, stepping into the throw, etc. I honestly don't know how he'll throw on the run moving to his right. And those up the middle, spinning plays that Ali made won't happen much any more.

I think Kent should be a 2B but for his professional future I get why he wants to play SS at this level. He'll be plenty adequate there, just not sure he's an all conference type defender like Ali is.
lagoag
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LB12Diamond said:

You listened to premium posters. Big mistake.
OP, I have a question for you. How were you able to listen to premium posters when you don't have any stars.
Steph 92
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Killzone3abc said:

What's with the wierd narrative about Kaeden Kents defense? I've seen several posters (mostly on premium) put him down in regards to being able to play SS in college. I don't get it. Am I missing something?

He looked to be clearly better than most 2nd basemen defensively this year. Lots of range, quick transfers, accurate throws, and great communication. Are these just nonbaseball fans that decided they wanted to crap on Kent for some reason or am I missing a flaw in his defense? Genuinely asking.


What you are missing is like many fanbases, our includes a large number of amateur coaches and talemt scouts. My guess is most of you had seen can be attributed to speculation and people preparing to soften the blow if Kent had transferred.

I would not read much into it and just be happy he is back!
Justice Beaver
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lagoag said:

LB12Diamond said:

You listened to premium posters. Big mistake.
OP, I have a question for you. How were you able to listen to premium posters when you don't have any stars.


Sometimes those idiots leave their village.
RED AG 98
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He's clearly good with the glove, has great instincts and baseball IQ. And he played clean ball; I don't remember him making many mistakes in the field.

The questions for me are does he have the range, athleticism, and arm to be an everyday SS in the SEC. I am not saying he does not; but those are open questions for me based on what I've seen in the field.

Arm - concern here is lowest of the three. We didn't see a lot from 2B, but in his limited time at 3B the arm looked ok to me.

Range - he's not fast, we've seen this on the bases probably more than in the field. But maybe he's quick enough. Concern here is low to moderate.

Athleticism - he's definitely not a typical SS build (a bit more stocky than most) and he doesn't really move like one. He absolutely made a few great plays at second this year for sure, but he doesn't exactly make everything look easy, almost like he labors a bit if that makes any sense. This may be more of an eye thing than a real thing; he's just not a silky smooth, easy mover like you see at SS often times. Hard to explain what I mean here, but the counter example is some of the plays Ali made as SS this year, which were incredibly difficult, yet somehow Ali made them smoothly and almost look routine. Ali made lots of challenging plays look really easy. Again, maybe this is more of a style thing than real athleticism difference, but it's the big one for me.

Again, not saying he can't do it but I think this is what a lot of us see and he'd need to demonstrate to the coaches. The coaches no doubt already have a much better handle on this than I, having seen him field thousands of balls by now. Just trying to relate the concerns I think you're reading about here.


trouble
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I think he'll be good at SS. If he keeps playing there and gets comfortable, maybe close to great.

He should not be compared to Ali who is an absolutely elite beast at short. Casual observers don't understand how easy he made some really really tough plays look.
AggieBB
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Killzone3abc said:

What's with the wierd narrative about Kaeden Kents defense? I've seen several posters (mostly on premium) put him down in regards to being able to play SS in college. I don't get it. Am I missing something?

He looked to be clearly better than most 2nd basemen defensively this year. Lots of range, quick transfers, accurate throws, and great communication. Are these just nonbaseball fans that decided they wanted to crap on Kent for some reason or am I missing a flaw in his defense? Genuinely asking.
They don't know if he can play SS in college. Just like you don't.
85AustinAg
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Quote:

I wouldn't go that far. Kent can be adequate at SS and probably have more pop at the plate but you're shortchanging Camarillo. His defense this season was elite and saved a lot of outs for us.
Agreed.
The Marksman
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Kent will be elite at SS
WoMD
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Since playing short is literally the same as playing second, I don't understand why he would have a problem.

Or at least that's what I've heard on here.
themissinglink
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We've been spoiled the last few years with elite college defensive SS with Haas and Ali. Most college SS don't have either the arm or the range to stick at SS in pro ball.

Watching Kent at 2B, I'm confident he'll be at worst an average SEC/ACC defensive SS. I'd prefer Ali but won't lose sleep at Kent's defense. Scouts can nitpick Kent's arm or range at SS, but both are more than serviceable for us.
Killzone3abc
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I have a student account. I can view but not post on premium. Idk what most of the badges mean including the stars tbh.
Randy Rhodes
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The Marksman said:

Kent will be elite at SS


The best SS ever?
greg.w.h
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The notion the fan base should comment is fine likely not helpful. Let the coaches sort it and root for the team that takes the field.
austinag1997
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trouble said:

I think he'll be good at SS. If he keeps playing there and gets comfortable, maybe close to great.

He should not be compared to Ali who is an absolutely elite beast at short. Casual observers don't understand how easy he made some really really tough plays look.


Agree. Ali was elite at SS.
MaxPower
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Who cares? We are gorilla ball now. Gonna make Tennessee from this year look like the 80's Cardinals.
StinkyPinky
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My first reaction is we really need a bigger body of work to determine consistency. Only had a glimpse of him at 3rd. But that being said what we did see at 3rd and his time at 2nd does not cause me to pause in any way. Appears to have the arm strength and definitely the mobility. Just needs to make sure he has the mental. No idea what would lead them to question. Other than they aren't smart.
sanaug
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I know sons don't always listen to their dad. And dads aren't always realistic about a son's abilities.

But I would hope Mr. Kent would be able to realistically evaluate and advise re Kaeden's suitability at SS, and that Kaeden would listen to him.

Based on that, if Kaeden chooses to play shortstop, I expect he will do fine there.
Zatara
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StinkyPinky said:

My first reaction is we really need a bigger body of work to determine consistency. Only had a glimpse of him at 3rd. But that being said what we did see at 3rd and his time at 2nd does not cause me to pause in any way. Appears to have the arm strength and definitely the mobility. Just needs to make sure he has the mental. No idea what would lead them to question. Other than they aren't smart.


This
fightingfarmer09
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WoMD said:

Since playing short is literally the same as playing second, I don't understand why he would have a problem.

Or at least that's what I've heard on here.


lagoag
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Killzone3abc said:

I have a student account. I can view but not post on premium. Idk what most of the badges mean including the stars tbh.
OK, that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.
aggiebones
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Who are better SS defensively in the team if Ali leaves?
How much better? How much worse are they at batting versus the next potential 2Bman.
Woukd Kent leave if he's not SS?

AggieBB
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The Marksman said:

Kent will be elite at SS
Ag1188
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My only concern comes from him getting thrown out stealing 2nd one time when he looked quite slow. I thought that might make playing SS more difficult. He looks pretty good with his glove.
Meximan
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The short of it is, A&M has an embarrassment of riches at every position; they're basically three deep everywhere and getting deeper

If one guy goes down, there is still no rest for the opposing team
dr_java
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I don't see an obvious problem with KK at SS, and hope we see him get some time there.

That said, so thankful he is returning to A&M and expect that he'll be starting and will resume the level of contributions he made in post season.
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