LB12Diamond said:

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Loved going to middle school finding out my sun stood up to a bully and was in the same amount of trouble as the bully.

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When in the second grade, I punched a bully in the nose, bloodying it. That was all it took. He never bullied anyone again, and I never got it trouble for it (as the teachers and the principal all approved)! This was in 1956. Things have changed (for the worse),

swimmerbabe11 said:

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okay but baseball is a turn based game. Assuming that HBP was possibly intentional, you don't allow retribution if you are the official. That's insanity.

Just like you are the school and the life was a turn based video game, the school would step in and stop anyone from taking another hit...and if they didn't they'd be negligent and insane. You don't allow things to escalate.

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Ehhh in school or real life, if someone gets punched and as they're about to retaliate they get cut off and told "It's over now" (essentially the same punishment for both parties when one instigated and the other did nothing), it won't be over. The victim didn't get their pound of flesh, the instigator will have gotten away scot-free, and there will be a bitterness and resentment. It may be over in that moment, but it's not over by any means for the victim and it WILL boil over eventually.

Now, if the school actually does their job and punishes the instigator (in this case, throws the offending pitcher out), the victim will feel justice and be at peace.

I agree with you... The officials can't let it go on. But unless they do something about what started it, there will be bad blood. Baseball players have long memories lol.

Getting back to the OP, I think the only significance of issuing a warning is that if the umpire deems that a pitcher is intentionally throwing at a batter, in addition to throwing out the pitcher, the manager will be ejected automatically. The umpire can eject the pitcher without warning, but the manager is only ejected if it happens after a warning, and the umpire has to judge it to be intentional.

BoerneGator said:

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LB12Diamond said:

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Loved going to middle school finding out my sun stood up to a bully and was in the same amount of trouble as the bully.

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When in the second grade, I punched a bully in the nose, bloodying it. That was all it took. He never bullied anyone again, and I never got it trouble for it (as the teachers and the principal all approved)! This was in 1956. Things have changed (for the worse),

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Good one

My dad had good stories as well. He moved to a new school when he was young. Every day they would beat him up. Well, he had enough and when they went to recess, playing football, the main guy that always started it was guarding my dad. He ran full speed by a telephone pole. The other kid hit it full speed. No more messing with my dad.

twk said:

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Getting back to the OP, I think the only significance of issuing a warning is that if the umpire deems that a pitcher is intentionally throwing at a batter, in addition to throwing out the pitcher, the manager will be ejected automatically. The umpire can eject the pitcher without warning, but the manager is only ejected if it happens after a warning, and the umpire has to judge it to be intentional.

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I thought a manager can be ejected without a warning if a HBP is deemed intentional (or if the umpire thinks that the pitcher intentionally throws at a batter, even without a HBP)?

A warning makes it automatic, but it isn't necessary to do it.

From what I've read in the rule book, concerning hbp the coach must be warned first. The pitcher doesn't have to be

Be a lot more fun if the game was a little more like ice hockey. Pitcher beans a batter on purpose ump is allowed to unload his side bag at said pitcher. Chunk balls at his head until he leaves the field. Can you imagine the ump that misses 4-5 straight and Aggie crowd starts ball 5 chant. Lol

trouble said:

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From what I've read in the rule book, concerning hbp the coach must be warned first. The pitcher doesn't have to be

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Gotcha. Guess I had that wrong. Thanks.

Can't call out the guilty party. Something something diversity and equity…

swimmerbabe11 said:

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The warning rule is a classic case of "I don't care who started it, I'm going to end it"

it makes complete sense.

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