It looks like that's Oregon and they lost 3 of 4 to them, including the conference tournament.

I like that. Let's make that the plan.

Just have to put two good wins together...

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MaroonStain said:

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They have played 0 games against Q1 competition. ZERO. How many teams have they played that are in Regionals? What was the outcome?

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Really? That is surprising.

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It is also untrue.

My biggest question with those stats is that Stanford played all their games as away, and we played all but 1 as away. Dang.

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Hungry Ojos said:

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Wrecking Crew 21 said:

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Just have to remember the level of competition where they are located!

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So is west coast baseball generally know to be weaker? Honestly asking as I know nothing about it.

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The Cali teams are geographically isolated so it really skews RPI. They don't have a short drive to midweek teams like the Big 12, SEC, ACC do. DBU, Sam, Troy, Campbell, Coastal... All in easy reach for folks in the East. In Cali you either play Irvine, Fullerton, etc (and have real risk of losses) or you don't. And even those teams have been pretty mediocre/bad in recent memory.

It makes it very hard to compare stats, RPI, SOS, etc

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Hmmmm
Cal Davis
Sacramento State
UC Irvine
UC riverside
Cal St. Northridge
Cal St. San Luis Obispo
UC San Diego
UC Santa Barbara
Pepperdine
San Diego St
University of San Diego
University of Nevada Reno.
UNLV
Cal St. Fullerton
Santa Clara
Universixty of Pacific
University of San Franscico
St. Mary's
Loyola Marymount

My point isn't that there aren't schools out West, it's that they've not been good in recent years. Compare the teams on that list to even a DBU, ORU or Sam in the last 6-8 years.

A lot of "known" teams there because of what they did in the 90s-2010. Not a lot since unless I'm just completely blowing it. ...also doesn't help that UCLA has just fallen off the face of the earth.

RPI of the teams:

Cal Davis - 229
Sacramento State - 198
UC Irvine - 49
UC riverside - 263
Cal St. Northridge - 74
Cal St. San Luis Obispo - 168
UC San Diego - 84
UC Santa Barbara - 56
Pepperdine - 194
San Diego St - 148
University of San Diego - 118
University of Nevada Reno - 230
UNLV - 208
Cal St. Fullerton - 65
Santa Clara - 81
Universixty of Pacific - 277
University of San Franscico - 264
St. Mary's - 185
Loyola Marymount - 112

1 (barely) Quad 1 team in that list, 5 Quad 2. Not a lot of help in there.

Only 6 Quad 1 teams west of Texas... And if you're one of them there's only 5 you can play to move that metric. (edit: I missed the NW teams. 6, not 3)

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Sean98 said:

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Hungry Ojos said:

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Just have to remember the level of competition where they are located!

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So is west coast baseball generally know to be weaker? Honestly asking as I know nothing about it.

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The Cali teams are geographically isolated so it really skews RPI. They don't have a short drive to midweek teams like the Big 12, SEC, ACC do. DBU, Sam, Troy, Campbell, Coastal... All in easy reach for folks in the East. In Cali you either play Irvine, Fullerton, etc (and have real risk of losses) or you don't. And even those teams have been pretty mediocre/bad in recent memory.

It makes it very hard to compare stats, RPI, SOS, etc

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Hmmmm
Cal Davis
Sacramento State
UC Irvine
UC riverside
Cal St. Northridge
Cal St. San Luis Obispo
UC San Diego
UC Santa Barbara
Pepperdine
San Diego St
University of San Diego
University of Nevada Reno.
UNLV
Cal St. Fullerton
Santa Clara
Universixty of Pacific
University of San Franscico
St. Mary's
Loyola Marymount

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Several of those schools are in the Los Angeles area which is 350 miles or so from Palo Alto. That's like A&M playing in Norman, OK which is impractical for a midweek game. Some of them are so far that Stanford by rule would have to fly, ie UNLV.

Meanwhile we have all of the following within bus distance for a Tuesday game

tu
Baylor
Texas State
Sam Houston
Rice
Houston
UT Arlington
TCU
UTSA
HBU
PV

Much, much easier for us to schedule than the west coast schools. Not all of those are good teams but nobody plays good teams week in and week out. The west coast schools have a problem just filling out their schedule without worrying about travel costs.

jkag89 said:

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MaroonStain said:

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They have played 0 games against Q1 competition. ZERO. How many teams have they played that are in Regionals? What was the outcome?

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This info is simply incorrect.

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Interestingly per this link we are the best team they will have played all year.

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ColoradoMooseHerd said:

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Sean98 said:

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Hungry Ojos said:

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Just have to remember the level of competition where they are located!

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So is west coast baseball generally know to be weaker? Honestly asking as I know nothing about it.

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The Cali teams are geographically isolated so it really skews RPI. They don't have a short drive to midweek teams like the Big 12, SEC, ACC do. DBU, Sam, Troy, Campbell, Coastal... All in easy reach for folks in the East. In Cali you either play Irvine, Fullerton, etc (and have real risk of losses) or you don't. And even those teams have been pretty mediocre/bad in recent memory.

It makes it very hard to compare stats, RPI, SOS, etc

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Hmmmm
Cal Davis
Sacramento State
UC Irvine
UC riverside
Cal St. Northridge
Cal St. San Luis Obispo
UC San Diego
UC Santa Barbara
Pepperdine
San Diego St
University of San Diego
University of Nevada Reno.
UNLV
Cal St. Fullerton
Santa Clara
Universixty of Pacific
University of San Franscico
St. Mary's
Loyola Marymount

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Several of those schools are in the Los Angeles area which is 350 miles or so from Palo Alto. That's like A&M playing in Norman, OK which is impractical for a midweek game. Some of them are so far that Stanford by rule would have to fly, ie UNLV.

Meanwhile we have all of the following within bus distance for a Tuesday game

tu
Baylor
Texas State
Sam Houston
Rice
Houston
UT Arlington
TCU
UTSA
HBU
PV

Much, much easier for us to schedule than the west coast schools. Not all of those are good teams but nobody plays good teams week in and week out. The west coast schools have a problem just filling out their schedule without worrying about travel costs.

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Original Post said Cali Teams, Not just Stanford. There are more teams too, I did not name them all.

But for Midweek Games, by your criteria they still should not have a problem filling midweek games with the following

St. Mary's
Santa Clara
U of San Francisco
U of Pacific
Cal Davis
Sac State
Fresno State
Cal St San Luis Obispo
Cal St. Bakersfield
And they often fill in other midweek games with team traveling to California for Spring Break or other times much like A&M does.

And they are allowed to play a team more than once.

ColoradoMooseHerd said:

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LOYAL AG said:

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ColoradoMooseHerd said:

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Sean98 said:

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Hungry Ojos said:

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Wrecking Crew 21 said:

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Just have to remember the level of competition where they are located!

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So is west coast baseball generally know to be weaker? Honestly asking as I know nothing about it.

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The Cali teams are geographically isolated so it really skews RPI. They don't have a short drive to midweek teams like the Big 12, SEC, ACC do. DBU, Sam, Troy, Campbell, Coastal... All in easy reach for folks in the East. In Cali you either play Irvine, Fullerton, etc (and have real risk of losses) or you don't. And even those teams have been pretty mediocre/bad in recent memory.

It makes it very hard to compare stats, RPI, SOS, etc

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Hmmmm
Cal Davis
Sacramento State
UC Irvine
UC riverside
Cal St. Northridge
Cal St. San Luis Obispo
UC San Diego
UC Santa Barbara
Pepperdine
San Diego St
University of San Diego
University of Nevada Reno.
UNLV
Cal St. Fullerton
Santa Clara
Universixty of Pacific
University of San Franscico
St. Mary's
Loyola Marymount

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Several of those schools are in the Los Angeles area which is 350 miles or so from Palo Alto. That's like A&M playing in Norman, OK which is impractical for a midweek game. Some of them are so far that Stanford by rule would have to fly, ie UNLV.

Meanwhile we have all of the following within bus distance for a Tuesday game

tu
Baylor
Texas State
Sam Houston
Rice
Houston
UT Arlington
TCU
UTSA
HBU
PV

Much, much easier for us to schedule than the west coast schools. Not all of those are good teams but nobody plays good teams week in and week out. The west coast schools have a problem just filling out their schedule without worrying about travel costs.

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Original Post said Cali Teams, Not just Stanford. There are more teams too, I did not name them all.

But for Midweek Games, by your criteria they still should not have a problem filling midweek games with the following

St. Mary's
Santa Clara
U of San Francisco
U of Pacific
Cal Davis
Sac State
Fresno State
Cal St San Luis Obispo
Cal St. Bakersfield
And they often fill in other midweek games with team traveling to California for Spring Break or other times much like A&M does.

And they are allowed to play a team more than once.

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There are teams available but none of them are going to boost their RPI which is part of the equation when scheduling. Santa Clara is 77 and they played them twice. The rest are Q4. Fresno is 177. Sac State is 198. The rest are over 200. Those are the kind of teams we were canceling last year when we were concerned about RPI from a hosting perspective. I think the point is we have a number of Q2 caliber programs to schedule on Tuesdays and they don't.

Looking at their schedule they actually played a Tuesday game against Cal that didn't count in the PAC, a four game set at OU, and a Monday-Tuesday two game set against Texas Tech. I applaud their efforts to get quality non conference games but we haven't and probably won't do any of those things. We've nearly always used the traditional Tuesday midweek and the three game weekend model because we can. Then their problem is compounded by the relative weakness of the PAC which is fourth in RPI but as close to 8 as 1. The next highest west coast conference is the Big West at 10.

PPI points have always been a problem for the left coast schools this conversation just proves it. Look at South Carolina, three against Clemson, one against UNC and two against Charlotte. They didn't even bother with Costal Carolina who is in their home state. Much easier to schedule good teams on the East coast.

Covid has been one of the biggest setbacks to California Sports. The governor but crazy restrictions on teams from the state traveling and teams traveling to California. I know several athletes transferred to SEC/ACC schools just to make sure they could keep playing without worrying about a shutdown.

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Yep. You?

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TxAg76 said:

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Oh yeah.

It took me like 5 seconds to find this:

https://texags.com/forums/8/topics/3381374/replies/64987927

And find it hilariously ironic you would bump this thread. But to each their own.

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Aggies2009 said:

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Yep. You?

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Oh yeah.

It took me like 5 seconds to find this:

https://texags.com/forums/8/topics/3381374/replies/64987927

And find it hilariously ironic you would bump this thread. But to each their own.

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Great find, you proved I wasn't confident in our starting pitching.

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Yep. You?

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Oh yeah.

It took me like 5 seconds to find this:

https://texags.com/forums/8/topics/3381374/replies/64987927

And find it hilariously ironic you would bump this thread. But to each their own.

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Great find, you proved I wasn't confident in our starting pitching.

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Good call.

And you was wrong

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And you was wrong

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Yeah, I guess Dett made it further than 2+ innings….
Wouldn't call it a great outing though, just better than some of his other recents

Hoping we get a legit starter via portal, to go along with some of the promising youngsters.
Maybe Dett will develop some too.

What? Dirty had a great night.

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What? Dirty had a great night.

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I guess we define great differently

PITCHERS IP H ER BB K PC-ST ERA
N. Dettmer 6.0 6 4 2 8 87-57 6.38

Compared to what we've been getting out of him, he had a stellar outing

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Compared to what we've been getting out of him, he had a stellar outing

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I don't disagree w that.
And he was seemingly our best option. Which says a lot about us right now, but I believe in Schloss and staff for future

Meanwhile Stanford and their leftovers of arms (which were suspect to begin with) held us to 6 total runs in 18 innings the past 2 days.

"That the way baseball go sometimes…."