It showed that it didn't matter much in basketball this year. Does the baseball committee care at all about the tournament unless you win it all? From the past years that I've seen, the teams don't even count the SEC tournament games into their conference record.

Maybe. Maybe not.

Each committee justifies it's decisions with whatever metrics make it work.

You can absolutely count on each selection committee to give different answers.

Well, if we can win a few against really good RPI teams, it might boost our RPI to where even an NCAA committee would have a hard time not giving us a national seed.

I think teams have to win their respective tournament to change their seeding.

a "deep run" won't do it.

the ACC is a good example. If Wake Forest or North Carolina runs the table and wins the title...they could bump from a 2-seed to a host.

assuming the committee is still undecided on the last 2 or 3 hosts...and they probably are.

on the flipside...I bet the committee has already nailed down 7 or all of the top 8 seeds based upon the regular season

First off, conference tournament games are included in the conference record on all the reports used by the Selection Committee and the records don't differentiate between the regular season and the conference tournament.

Second, I don't think A&M make the post season in 2013 without winning a couple of SEC tournament games. Our RPI was in the 40s but we got it up to 34 on selection day. That's still, by far, the worst RPI for a 13 regular season win SEC team that's gotten into the NCAA tournament since we joined the conference.

Third, a more recent example of an SEC team playing its way into hosting a regional---2019 Ole Miss, who went into the SEC tournament 16-14 in the SEC and with an RPI 26. Virtually no chance to host at that point. But they went to the SEC Tournament final, improved their RPI to 22, and hosted.

Fourth, winning the tournament definitely helps you out beyond auto-bids. See 2014...LSU and TCU played their way into national seeds by winning their respective conference tournaments.

let me say it like this...

the committee has already decided if Maryland -- the B1G champ -- is worthy of a national seed.

after the Terps went 44-10 in the regular season...going 2 & Q in the conference tournament won't change anything. And frankly it shouldn't

I think you have to keep in mind that unless you win your conference tournament, you've likely lost a couple of games and even if you made a run, you're probably coming out of 3-2 or 2-2.

That's probably not going to hugely change your resume.

Florida was 3rd place out of the east last year, went 3-1 in Hoover and hosted a regional.

If we win no
If we lose yes

i think the tournament will matter to bubble teams. i guess you could say we are a bubble team in the sense of competing to firmly establish ourselves in the top 8. i read some analysts that say we're in the top 8 but we're not in the upper half of it. suppose we go 0-2 in our tournament and the 9th or 10th seeded teams go deep or even win their tournament then maybe it has an impact on us.

coach s said on a radio show dettmer needs to be 100% for us to make any kind of run in the ncaa tournament. so, sounds to me like winning the tournament ultimately doesn't matter for this year.

One thing to keep in mind with regard to the baseball selection process is that the 16 host sites are announced on Sunday afternoon, before the conference tournaments are all concluded. So, winning a conference tournament title literally does not factor into that decision, and I have to believe that there is little if any change in the order of the top 16 seeds based on what happens on Sunday.

As was said above, it seems to me that conference tournament results are used to justify what the committee does when it helps their case, and ignored when it doesn't. Beyond that I dont think you can make any sweeping assertions. Some years, they claim it matters, other years it does not, and there is no rhyme or reason to it.

Miss State got blown out in its 2 games at Hoover last year and won the Natty.

The only rule for the selection committee is that there are no rules.

By Sunday afternoon some teams have gone 2&q some teams have made their tourney finals either of those results might affect the committee's decision

Going 2-2 won't change the committee decision

Maryland has put up temporary bleachers and set out port-o-lets, so it believes it is in.

It depends. Tennessee could go 0-2, and they're still a national seed. Maybe the NCAA would get cute and not make them the #1 overall, but who really cares?!?

On the other hand, I think a few wins in the SEC tournament would go a long way towards us becoming a top 8 seed.

I agree that for some teams the tourney doesn't matter at all....we are not one of those teams. Even Texags staff (Zane) are saying that if we go 0-2 in the tourney, we could be in jeopardy of not hosting at all. Some of it will have to do with who we play in Hoover too.

Florida plays S. Carolina today, if Florida loses, their RPI will get pinged 38 points for that one loss. I assume if we were to play USCe tomorrow that a loss would have a similar affect on our RPI. That would drop our RPI to around # 29 and another loss on Thursday would most likely have us below 30. Don't think we can afford that.

IMO, we need to win one to assure a top 16 and two will give us a shot at a 7 or 8 seed.

I firmly believe conference tournaments do not matter in the selection process. As twk said, they even announce host sites before all the tournaments conclude.

I was going to post, should we even have them? Save the arms for regionals.

Eh, they're fun. Love spending a whole day at the ballpark. They provide an opportunity for a wildcard team that wouldn't otherwise make the NCAA tournament. Remember in 2012 when Missouri won the Big 12 tournament and so basically pushed t.u. out of the NCAA touranment? That was awesome.

If we didn't have them, I suppose we could start Regionals a week earlier.

conf tourneys matter TREMENDOUSLY to Committees.
It gives them something they can choose to ignore, or something additional to justify a completely unjust action. It's a no-lose for them.

I think seeds 1-6 and 11-14 are basically set. I would have have a 14-20 list of possible hosts to whittle down. I think 7-10 are still a work in progress that could change based on a team currently slotted at 10 going on a run or 7 flaming out.

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let me say it like this...

the committee has already decided if Maryland -- the B1G champ -- is worthy of a national seed.

after the Terps went 44-10 in the regular season...going 2 & Q in the conference tournament won't change anything. And frankly it shouldn't

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Weak ass conference in which only 4/13 teams had winning conference records. That's not the kind of parity … from 5-13 … that impresses anyone in the other major sports. I hope Maryland gets exposed early.

For a team that wouldn't get original bid, yes it does matter if they win the tournament. So kind of answered your own question.

Maryland would get embarrassed in the SEC. Sucks that they are going to steal a national seed.