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The sad part is that it's not like we need a murderer's row batting order to win. We would be a Top 5 team this year if we were just an average hitting team instead of one of the worst hitting teams in team history.

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The 2017 hit .273 and the 2018 team hit .285. They each slugged 50 points higher and had 16-18 more home runs than the current team. If we had approximated either of those averages, we would talking about our national seed right now. And though last year's team also had its problems at the plate (conference) they ended at 120 more hits on the season that the current team has, which was top 20 in the nation.

Seely has been with the team 11 years, meaning he's coached a number of better offenses. And no one was worried that Bolt was from Nebraska in 2015 and 2016 when he ran one of the top offenses in the country.

And people have bagged on getting players from Nebraska as well....but the players we got from Nebraska were Nolan Hoffman, team leading hitter Michael Helman (.369) and Foster, who was #2 on the team in slugging in his prior 2 seasons and led the team in home runs in an injury shortened campaign last year.

To pretend the coaches have turned in results as abysmal as this year's offense with any kind of consistency is dishonest, and the Nebraska boogeyman is just red meat for people that are excited that these guys are likely coaching for their careers this weekend.

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Good post

What seems to be the problem then? Stroke of bad luck?

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Ole Pablo again, in his own unique ways, trying to stir the pot which he has a history of doing. Why don't you go find a customer to guide down the river to keep you busy?

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Lol. Like this pot ain't already stirring

Pay attention, son

Lance gave his opinion. What's yours?

Don't have an opinion to express other than you are generally really good at stirring the pot on just about anything related to Aggie athletics, son. Based on your bio information, I am older than you so you fit the "son" name much better than me. Enough with wasting my time reading your comments. They are almost always negative and critical, regardless. It would probably help if you could get more river guiding business to keep you busy.

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The sad part is that it's not like we need a murderer's row batting order to win. We would be a Top 5 team this year if we were just an average hitting team instead of one of the worst hitting teams in team history.

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The 2017 hit .273 and the 2018 team hit .285. They each slugged 50 points higher and had 16-18 more home runs than the current team. If we had approximated either of those averages, we would talking about our national seed right now. And though last year's team also had its problems at the plate (conference) they ended at 120 more hits on the season that the current team has, which was top 20 in the nation.

Seely has been with the team 11 years, meaning he's coached a number of better offenses. And no one was worried that Bolt was from Nebraska in 2015 and 2016 when he ran one of the top offenses in the country.

And people have bagged on getting players from Nebraska as well....but the players we got from Nebraska were Nolan Hoffman, team leading hitter Michael Helman (.369) and Foster, who was #2 on the team in slugging in his prior 2 seasons and led the team in home runs in an injury shortened campaign last year.

To pretend the coaches have turned in results as abysmal as this year's offense with any kind of consistency is dishonest, and the Nebraska boogeyman is just red meat for people that are excited that these guys are likely coaching for their careers this weekend.

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Good post

What seems to be the problem then? Stroke of bad luck?

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Ole Pablo again, in his own unique ways, trying to stir the pot which he has a history of doing. Why don't you go find a customer to guide down the river to keep you busy?

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Lol. Like this pot ain't already stirring

Pay attention, son

Lance gave his opinion. What's yours?

Don't have an opinion to express other than you are generally really good at stirring the pot on just about anything related to Aggie athletics, son. Based on your bio information, I am older than you so you fit the "son" name much better than me. Enough with wasting my time reading your comments. They are almost always negative and critical, regardless. It would probably help if you could get more river guiding business to keep you busy.

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Yeah I didn't think so

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A comp? An example of a fired coach with a similar resume. You're a baseball board regular so I'm assuming you can show me an example of a guy like RC who has been fired. My hope is that you'll begin to understand why there are no examples.

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Here's one:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_Laval

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Although Laval's first four years were fairly solid, they were below Tiger fans had come to expect. He began feeling pressure from LSU fans and the athletic administration, and it was generally felt that 2006 would be a make-or-break season for him. Unfortunately for Laval, the Tigers had their worst season since 1983, the year before Bertman arrived. The team finished the season with a record of 3524 and its first losing SEC record in 24 years. They missed the NCAA tournament for the first time in 18 years. Under pressure, Laval officially resigned on June 4, 2006.

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Differences versus where we are now:

• Laval was following a legend which is always difficult. Johnson was our best coach ever prior to Childress but he's certainly not Skip Bertman.
• LSU missed regionals his last year which Childress hasn't done since his first.
• He wasn't fired though that was probably a technicality. We all know how the "resigned under pressure" thing works.

IMO not a great comparison. Five years as the first coach after a guy with five national titles. That's a difficult gig to hold. Conversely Childress inherited a struggling program that had missed regionals four times in seven years. He's built one that has the 4th longest streak of regional play in the nation. We may all think the program is capable of better but the fact is that he's the best coach we've ever had and I tend to think he's safe until he misses the field entirely one year. Now that could be 2020 given what we return on offense but that's a topic for another day.

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Laval had 2 CWS trips in 5 seasons. RC has 2 in 14.

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And? Laval missed regionals in year 5 and Childress hasn't missed since year 1.

You're looking for a comparison which means a coach that was fired after a similar run of always being good but never being great. You can't fall back on a guy with a five year tenure that ended in a year with no regional appearance then say that compares to a guy that's been to regionals for 13 straight years. Those aren't the same. Had Laval made regionals that last year and been fired it would have been a significantly better comparison. Similarly if Childress misses next year and gets fired the comparison gets better.

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The amount of value this board puts on simply making the post season is ridiculous. If RC is fired, it should be because he has had 14 seasons to make us an elite program and he hasn't, not because he missed the post season one year.

I'll give Pablo credit. While Pablo is really good at stirring the pot and I frequently dont see eye-to-eye with him; he sticks around when things are going good and gives the program credit as opposed to just dropping off the board completely.He also doesnt engage in bull**** rants that we have to fire Rob because some player on the other team stared down our dugout or the like. It's always a straight argument that the overall results arent good enough.

Full summary of my opinions:

Some change is absolutely necessary.
Because of administrative structure, some changes will not happen now.
If done properly, changing offensive leadership could be more than enough for future success.
Even with proper future administrative structure, a big name coach is FAR from guaranteed or even likely.
Lack of a big name coach (while extremely unpopular, for sure) doesn't indicate failure.

I don't expect any changes at all. Might get some new juco players.

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A comp? An example of a fired coach with a similar resume. You're a baseball board regular so I'm assuming you can show me an example of a guy like RC who has been fired. My hope is that you'll begin to understand why there are no examples.

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Here's one:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_Laval

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Although Laval's first four years were fairly solid, they were below Tiger fans had come to expect. He began feeling pressure from LSU fans and the athletic administration, and it was generally felt that 2006 would be a make-or-break season for him. Unfortunately for Laval, the Tigers had their worst season since 1983, the year before Bertman arrived. The team finished the season with a record of 3524 and its first losing SEC record in 24 years. They missed the NCAA tournament for the first time in 18 years. Under pressure, Laval officially resigned on June 4, 2006.

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Differences versus where we are now:

• Laval was following a legend which is always difficult. Johnson was our best coach ever prior to Childress but he's certainly not Skip Bertman.
• LSU missed regionals his last year which Childress hasn't done since his first.
• He wasn't fired though that was probably a technicality. We all know how the "resigned under pressure" thing works.

IMO not a great comparison. Five years as the first coach after a guy with five national titles. That's a difficult gig to hold. Conversely Childress inherited a struggling program that had missed regionals four times in seven years. He's built one that has the 4th longest streak of regional play in the nation. We may all think the program is capable of better but the fact is that he's the best coach we've ever had and I tend to think he's safe until he misses the field entirely one year. Now that could be 2020 given what we return on offense but that's a topic for another day.

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Laval had 2 CWS trips in 5 seasons. RC has 2 in 14.

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And? Laval missed regionals in year 5 and Childress hasn't missed since year 1.

You're looking for a comparison which means a coach that was fired after a similar run of always being good but never being great. You can't fall back on a guy with a five year tenure that ended in a year with no regional appearance then say that compares to a guy that's been to regionals for 13 straight years. Those aren't the same. Had Laval made regionals that last year and been fired it would have been a significantly better comparison. Similarly if Childress misses next year and gets fired the comparison gets better.

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The amount of value this board puts on simply making the post season is ridiculous. If RC is fired, it should be because he has had 14 seasons to make us an elite program and he hasn't, not because he missed the post season one year.

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The ease with which people dismiss having the 4th longest streak in the nation is equally ridiculous. This run he's on isn't easy. If it was we wouldn't have the 4th longest streak at 14 years. I'm not saying it's good enough and I've said several times that I'm ready for a change but until people like you that "demand change" get to the point where you can acknowledge what he has accomplished there will be people like me that feel compelled to defend what is a good but not great record. We all think the program is capable of better though none of has anything to prove that because we've never done it. Until Childress or some other coach proves that we can accomplish more than we have he's our best coach to date. if you can't acknowledge that fact that's a poor reflection on your analytical skills.

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Congrats to Rob, staff and players for a school-record 13th consecutive NCAA Tournament appearance!

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Making a regional should not be a measuring stick.
And it's not like we have a rich rich history on a national scale.. we are a regional program.
Texas A&M baseball has never been a national force.. we have what 6 CWS appearances in the history of our program and have only I think 2 wins in Omaha .. last one coming in 1993.

If his 13 year run included multiple national seeds, several Omaha trips, wins in Omaha, or maybe even a NC, it would be more meaningful. But because it doesn't, IMO it's not that big of a deal. It's not hard to go just about .500 in conference play and get an at large bid.

If you're looking for something for me to be impressed with, his track record of pitching is outstanding.

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Until Childress or some other coach proves that we can accomplish more than we have he's our best coach to date. if you can't acknowledge that fact that's a poor reflection on your analytical skills.

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I'm sorry but that's a load of garbage and the type of mindset that's kept Aggie athletics from ever reaching its full potential. This is the attitude we've had for 100 years.

Be loyal.

Follow orders.

Don't complain.

Don't question authority.

Manage expectations.

Reward tenure, not results.

Don't hold anyone accountable.

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Until Childress or some other coach proves that we can accomplish more than we have he's our best coach to date. if you can't acknowledge that fact that's a poor reflection on your analytical skills.

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I'm sorry but that's a load of garbage and the type of mindset that's kept Aggie athletics from ever reaching its full potential. This is the attitude we've had for 100 years.

Be loyal.

Follow orders.

Don't complain.

Don't question authority.

Manage expectations.

Reward tenure, not results.

Don't hold anyone accountable.

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It's a statement of fact. What exactly is garbage? Set aside your emotions for a minute and let's discuss facts. Is Childress not the best coach we've ever had? Do we have some national title in the programs history that I've not heard about? I've followed this program very closely since 1993 so I feel like I know it's history well but maybe I'm wrong.

We agree the program has the potential to be better. However, all of our history shows we haven't been. That's why they call it potential. Until we prove we can be better we are what we are which is good but not great. So again, what in that is garbage?

RC hasn't elevated the program beyond the level MJ had it at. Yeah he has the post season streak that MJ didn't but MJ coached the majority of his time with a 48 team field. If that was still in place, RC wouldn't have this current post season streak.

I don't use history as any sort of measuring stick because that's how highly paid coaches keep from behind held accountable and how administration gets complacent. I promise you Jimbo doesn't care that we haven't won a NC since 1939. How we fair on the baseball field in 2019 isn't at all by what we did last year or the year before or 10 years ago. It's not at LSU or any other program with a bunch of baseball ncs either.

Claiming we should use our own history as a barometer creates an endless cycle of mediocrity.

I think we can all agree that his strategy of pitching and defense is not working. But it can work. He just doesn't know how to do it.

If pitching and defense is your strategy than you need more athletic position players. Lean more on speed and not power. The last two years we had neither. Go get six or seven guys that can run. Find a power hitting 3rd baseman, 1st baseman and catcher. The Coleman brothers don't have power or speed. That's a problem. They are our current 1st and 3rd basemen. LSU always has great speed.

Everyone else needs to be able to run. Take more pitches, work more counts..etc.. The great TCU teams a few years ago did that. My guess is we are close to last in hitting in the SEC but also close to last in number of walks. That CANNOT happen.

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Until Childress or some other coach proves that we can accomplish more than we have he's our best coach to date. if you can't acknowledge that fact that's a poor reflection on your analytical skills.


I'm sorry but that's a load of garbage and the type of mindset that's kept Aggie athletics from ever reaching its full potential. This is the attitude we've had for 100 years.

Be loyal.

Follow orders.

Don't complain.

Don't question authority.

Manage expectations.

Reward tenure, not results.

Don't hold anyone accountable.

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I'm curious. Were you ever in the military? If so, what branch?

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RC hasn't elevated the program beyond the level MJ had it at. Yeah he has the post season streak that MJ didn't but MJ coached the majority of his time with a 48 team field. If that was still in place, RC wouldn't have this current post season streak.

I don't use history as any sort of measuring stick because that's how highly paid coaches keep from behind held accountable and how administration gets complacent. I promise you Jimbo doesn't care that we haven't won a NC since 1939. How we fair on the baseball field in 2019 isn't at all by what we did last year or the year before or 10 years ago. It's not at LSU or any other program with a bunch of baseball ncs either.

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OK, now we're getting somewhere. Johnson missed regionals four of his last seven years with all of those years being in the current 64 team field. The program fell way off after 1999 and he never really recovered aside from 2003 and 2004 with a regional and Super regional. It was definitely time for a change and Childress has been better than MJ even if you count 1999 and ignore the prior years before the 64 team field.

We can debate if we would have been left out in any given year with the old format but I tend to agree with you that it would have happened in years like 2018, 2017 and 2013 and 2014. In that case yeah this is a pretty rough stretch and we would have seen a change.

Still the fact remains that we have the 4th longest streak in the nation with Vandy, FSU and another I haven't figured out ahead of us. It's a good run and if it was easy then 13 years wouldn't be the 4th longest streak. That seems obvious. But there's no doubt the program has stagnated and right now 2015 and 2016 as great teams look like the exception and not the rule. Coming out of those years I thought we were poised to take over this state and that hasn't happened. Like I said I'm ready for a change as well. Childress has been good but I think we're capable of more and I'm willing to see us roll the dice and see if we can't take another step forward.

Debate pointer. You make it difficult to take you seriously when you refuse to acknowledge success when it's achieved. Childress doesn't suck and the program isn't awful. It's OK to admit that and still call for change with the belief that we can be better.

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OK, now we're getting somewhere. Johnson missed regionals four of his last seven years with all of those years being in the current 64 team field. The program fell way off after 1999 and he never really recovered aside from 2003 and 2004 with a regional and Super regional. It was definitely time for a change and Childress has been better than MJ even if you count 1999 and ignore the prior years before the 64 team field.

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Yes, but I was referring to the level MJ had it for over a decade, up till 99. RC has not eclipsed that level. That wasn't to say it wasn't time for MJ to go either, as you stated our program had fallen off considerably after 99.

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Debate pointer. You make it difficult to take you seriously when you refuse to acknowledge success when it's achieved. Childress doesn't suck and the program isn't awful. It's OK to admit that and still call for change with the belief that we can be better.

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We don't suck and we aren't awful, except for our hitting. You make it difficult to take you seriously when you put these words in people's mouth.

As far as success goes, has this year been a success so far? What about last year? 15-17? Yeah, I'd call that successful, but there's that TCU thing all 3 of those years that sours it. 13-14 weren't successful by any stretch.

I'm sorry, but I don't consider just making the post season a success, so therefore I don't put a lot of value on doing that every year.

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The sad part is that it's not like we need a murderer's row batting order to win. We would be a Top 5 team this year if we were just an average hitting team instead of one of the worst hitting teams in team history.

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The 2017 hit .273 and the 2018 team hit .285. They each slugged 50 points higher and had 16-18 more home runs than the current team. If we had approximated either of those averages, we would talking about our national seed right now. And though last year's team also had its problems at the plate (conference) they ended at 120 more hits on the season that the current team has, which was top 20 in the nation.

Seely has been with the team 11 years, meaning he's coached a number of better offenses. And no one was worried that Bolt was from Nebraska in 2015 and 2016 when he ran one of the top offenses in the country.

And people have bagged on getting players from Nebraska as well....but the players we got from Nebraska were Nolan Hoffman, team leading hitter Michael Helman (.369) and Foster, who was #2 on the team in slugging in his prior 2 seasons and led the team in home runs in an injury shortened campaign last year.

To pretend the coaches have turned in results as abysmal as this year's offense with any kind of consistency is dishonest, and the Nebraska boogeyman is just red meat for people that are excited that these guys are likely coaching for their careers this weekend.

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What seems to be the problem then? Stroke of bad luck?

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The balancing act in baseball is allocating money between pitching and position players. The 15 and 16 teams were offensive juggernauts with good but not deep pitching and both failed to get to Omaha. 16 stung the most as I think everyone thought that team was going to win it all then failed to win it's own Super. I think in response to being out pitched by TCU Childress pushed more money to the pitching staff which takes away from the rest of the team. These past three years were recruited on the heels of #MASHU which was 15 and 16 so that seems to make the most sense. It makes no sense that we'd recruit this group off of those years and miss this badly without some change to the recruiting formula.

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Great post Lance. Thanks for using facts. Interestingly enough the 2017 team BA would be 6th overall in 2019 SEC and 2018 team BA would be 4th in 2019 SEC stats. 2018 team was 4th in SEC hitting. 2017 team was 7th in SEC hitting and went to Omaha. Both 2017 and 2018 teams hit better for average and power and were in top half of the conference in hitting and fielding. 2019 team ended up 13th of 14 SEC teams in hitting and 12th of 14 teams in fielding %.

Aggie pitching is consistent over past three years in SEC. #1 in 2018 and 2019, #2 in 2017.

Final overall 2019 stats:http://a.espncdn.com/sec/baseball/2019/lgteams.htm
Final SEC 2019 stats: http://a.espncdn.com/sec/baseball/2019/SECOnlyStatistics.pdf

Great to get in postseason and out of conference grind. Anything can happen now if the team makes the most of its opportunities. Go Ags!

Bolt and Seely are great guys, good leaders of men but just okay as assistant baseball coaches. If Childress had elite assistants on his staff I believe he could go much farther, more consistently.

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OK, now we're getting somewhere. Johnson missed regionals four of his last seven years with all of those years being in the current 64 team field. The program fell way off after 1999 and he never really recovered aside from 2003 and 2004 with a regional and Super regional. It was definitely time for a change and Childress has been better than MJ even if you count 1999 and ignore the prior years before the 64 team field.

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Yes, but I was referring to the level MJ had it for over a decade, up till 99. RC has not eclipsed that level. That wasn't to say it wasn't time for MJ to go either, as you stated our program had fallen off considerably after 99.

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Debate pointer. You make it difficult to take you seriously when you refuse to acknowledge success when it's achieved. Childress doesn't suck and the program isn't awful. It's OK to admit that and still call for change with the belief that we can be better.

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We don't suck and we aren't awful, except for our hitting. You make it difficult to take you seriously when you put these words in people's mouth.

As far as success goes, has this year been a success so far? What about last year? 15-17? Yeah, I'd call that successful, but there's that TCU thing all 3 of those years that sours it. 13-14 weren't successful by any stretch.

I'm sorry, but I don't consider just making the post season a success, so therefore I don't put a lot of value on doing that every year.

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It was time for a change when MJ was fired.

But Childress has not elevated the program to a status above what MJ accomplished.
At the time MJ was fired , yes we are in a better spot.
Has Childress elevated the program to levels MJ did not have us at.. absolutely not.

And with a 64 team field MJ would of made 13-14 straight regionals as well

Just making the post season is the equivalent of making a bowl game

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And with a 64 team field MJ would of made 13-14 straight regionals as well

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The field was at 64 when Johnson missed the postseason 4 out of his last 6 years. We also only won 2 conference series in his final season and finished 9 games under .500 in the Big 12.

it is amazing how many fans are smitten with the consecutive regional appearance streak.

It's a very nice accomplishment, but a coach has to do more with that streak once the postseason begins

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it is amazing how many fans are smitten with the consecutive regional appearance streak.

It's a very nice accomplishment, but a coach has to do more with that streak once the postseason begins

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It's less about smite and more about recognizing that is an accomplishment. That being the story of the Childress tenure means the floor for the eventual successor is not a low bar.

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And with a 64 team field MJ would of made 13-14 straight regionals as well

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The field was at 64 when Johnson missed the postseason 4 out of his last 6 years. We also only won 2 conference series in his final season and finished 9 games under .500 in the Big 12.

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" it was time for a change when MJ was fired"
And I never said MJ would of made regionals in his later years.. as it was the same format ( as you mentioned also)

But the years MJ missed regionals in the 80's and 90's with a 65 team field he would of made regionals and RC 13 consecutive would not be a school record

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it is amazing how many fans are smitten with the consecutive regional appearance streak.

It's a very nice accomplishment, but a coach has to do more with that streak once the postseason begins

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It's less about smite and more about recognizing that is an accomplishment. That being the story of the Childress tenure means the floor for the eventual successor is not a low bar.

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It's also not a very high one.

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Maybe, but you can't know that. 1990, 1994 and 1996 don't really look like sure things. Especially considering we were 6-12 in 1994 against the SWC.

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Your opinion. But it's not something we were already doing, and it's definitely not a low one (especially considering the competition you have to beat in the SEC every year). And there's a reason commentators bring it up on a yearly basis when illustrating the consistency of the program.

We are about a .500 team in conference since joining the SEC

We also have about the 5th or so best record overall during that time frame I think. Believe or not pretty much every SEC team is as dedicated to baseball as us (fans/facilities etc) - only a couple exceptions.

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'13, '14, '18 were our worst 3 years. So really after we adjusted first two years we have been well over .50"

and of course that's kind of the issue with the Childress era. His teams have a high floor, but a low ceiling. Call it a standard deviation problem.

a good example is the West division standings. Since joining the SEC...A&M has never won the West. But also never finished in last place.

the finishes have been ---> 6th, 6th, 2nd, 2nd, 4th, 6th, and 4th.

during those 7 years: LSU, Arkansas, State, and Ole Miss have each won the West title (or shared it) at least twice

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We also have about the 5th or so best record overall during that time frame I think. Believe or not pretty much every SEC team is as dedicated to baseball as us (fans/facilities etc) - only a couple exceptions.

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First, it all counts. There isn't a "adjustment to the SEC period" that doesn't count.

Second, the fact we've reverted back to the type of teams we had in 13-14 the past 3 seasons should be of concern.

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We also have about the 5th or so best record overall during that time frame I think. Believe or not pretty much every SEC team is as dedicated to baseball as us (fans/facilities etc) - only a couple exceptions.

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'13, '14, '18 were our worst 3 years. So really after we adjusted first two years we have been well over .50"

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If you don't count our losses this year, we are undefeated

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We also have about the 5th or so best record overall during that time frame I think. Believe or not pretty much every SEC team is as dedicated to baseball as us (fans/facilities etc) - only a couple exceptions.

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First, it all counts. There isn't a "adjustment to the SEC period" that doesn't count.

Second, the fact we've reverted back to the type of teams we had in 13-14 the past 3 seasons should be of concern.

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Oh it's a concern alright

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We also have about the 5th or so best record overall during that time frame I think. Believe or not pretty much every SEC team is as dedicated to baseball as us (fans/facilities etc) - only a couple exceptions.

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First, it all counts. There isn't a "adjustment to the SEC period" that doesn't count.

Second, the fact we've reverted back to the type of teams we had in 13-14 the past 3 seasons should be of concern.

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This is spot on. If we were playing at a 15-16 level at this point I wouldn't care about 13 and 14 and would easily dismiss those as adjusting to what is the best league in the game. Unfortunately right now 15-16 are the exception and not the rule since joining the SEC.

The 1B coach for Texas State coached my son in travel ball when we moved to the SEC. The team was out of New Braunfels so we had no shortage of sip kids on that team. During spring of 12 there was a lot of banter between the Aggies and sips about what us going to the SEC would mean to recruiting. One night we're talking about baseball specifically and I said it would have a huge impact as we leveraged the best baseball around to kids in Texas. Of course the sips disagreed. Well this coach who had just finished his playing career at Texas State stopped his station for a second and said, "Mr. Beas is right. I wasn't good enough to play at A&M or Texas but I wasn't interested in A&M at all. In the SEC A&M is at the top of my list and a lot of kids see it the same way."

Unfortunately we haven't parlayed that advantage into anything of consequence. That the 15-16 teams were recruited off of the move was proof that it would impact us in a positive way. That this group was recruited off of 15-16 is a real concern for our ability to evaluate talent. I won't pretend to be smart enough to know what has to change but something is wrong in the program right now.

Ding ding ding. Instead of capitalizing on that, we are still recruiting Nebraska and hiring coaches from there.

Good post, Loyal

BoozingAg said:

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Ding ding ding. Instead of capitalizing on that, we are still recruiting Nebraska and hiring coaches from there.

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And sending your kids to school there