My knowledge is limited but at a glance .... I see a lot of "Nebraska" and/or "Texarkana College" in the combined bios

I assume they are Rob's former players or co-workers perhaps? Or friends perhaps?

Coincidence? Or maybe a narrow field of vision on the part of our head man when it comes to securing coaching talent?

You already know the answers to those questions. I see you working though.

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You already know the answers to those questions. I see you working though.

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Wasn't sure if Seely and Rob were at Nebraska simultaneously

Wasn't sure if Bolt coached with Childress at A&M but I guess he did for a year

Any other overlap?

As to the last part, yeah, likely a pretty narrow field of vision

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You already know the answers to those questions. I see you working though.

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Wasn't sure if Seely and Rob were at Nebraska simultaneously

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Frequent poster with VERY rigid guidelines required to retain the head man is suddenly curious about the head man's wing men.

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You already know the answers to those questions. I see you working though.

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Wasn't sure if Seely and Rob were at Nebraska simultaneously

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Frequent poster with VERY rigid guidelines required to retain the head man is suddenly curious about the head man's wing men.

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I just had never considered it

Are my guidelines all that unreasonable?

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You already know the answers to those questions. I see you working though.

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Wasn't sure if Seely and Rob were at Nebraska simultaneously

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Frequent poster with VERY rigid guidelines required to retain the head man is suddenly curious about the head man's wing men.

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I just had never considered it

Are my guidelines all that unreasonable?

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If you consider that no coach in the history of college baseball has ever been fired with RC's resume, yes. Is there a comp I missed?

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You already know the answers to those questions. I see you working though.

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Wasn't sure if Seely and Rob were at Nebraska simultaneously

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Frequent poster with VERY rigid guidelines required to retain the head man is suddenly curious about the head man's wing men.

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I just had never considered it

Are my guidelines all that unreasonable?

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If you consider that no coach in the history of college baseball has ever been fired with RC's resume, yes. Is there a comp I missed?

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Ahh

Do you think RC should be retained as long as he's making Regionals?

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You already know the answers to those questions. I see you working though.

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Wasn't sure if Seely and Rob were at Nebraska simultaneously

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Frequent poster with VERY rigid guidelines required to retain the head man is suddenly curious about the head man's wing men.

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I just had never considered it

Are my guidelines all that unreasonable?

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If you consider that no coach in the history of college baseball has ever been fired with RC's resume, yes. Is there a comp I missed?

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Ahh

Do you think RC should be retained as long as he's making Reguonals?

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The margin between CWS champs and many regional losers is razor thin every year. That's just the truth man. It's the reason that coaches who preside over HEALTHY programs don't get fired. Happy to reconsider if you come up with the comp.

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You already know the answers to those questions. I see you working though.

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Wasn't sure if Seely and Rob were at Nebraska simultaneously

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Frequent poster with VERY rigid guidelines required to retain the head man is suddenly curious about the head man's wing men.

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I just had never considered it

Are my guidelines all that unreasonable?

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If you consider that no coach in the history of college baseball has ever been fired with RC's resume, yes. Is there a comp I missed?

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Ahh

Do you think RC should be retained as long as he's making Reguonals?

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The margin between CWS champs and many regional losers is razor thin every year. That's just the truth man. It's the reason that coaches who preside over HEALTHY programs don't get fired. Happy to reconsider if you come up with the comp.

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What is comp?

Also, so the answer is yes?

A comp? An example of a fired coach with a similar resume. You're a baseball board regular so I'm assuming you can show me an example of a guy like RC who has been fired. My hope is that you'll begin to understand why there are no examples.

Oh, comparison

I don't care about that. Rob has done better than most, others have made it further more
Often, and in a shorter period of time

I don't care about other coaches or programs. I care about A&M, and I care about them competing for a national title better than what Rob has done for 14 years (hopefully he'll break through this year

He's done a great job of making the post season, and a pretty good job of competing in Regionals. He's done a poor job making it past super regionals, and an abysmal job of competing in the CWS on the rare occasions he makes it

We can be better

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Oh, comparison

I don't care about that. Rob has done better than most, others have made it further more
Often, and in a shorter period of time

I don't care about other coaches or programs. I care about A&M, and I care about them competing for a national title better than what Rob has done for 14 years (hopefully he'll break through this year

He's done a great job of making the post season, and a pretty good job of competing in Regionals. He's done a poor job making it past super regionals, and an abysmal job of competing in the CWS on the rare occasions he makes it

We can be better

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Careful what you wish for.

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Oh, comparison

I don't care about that. Rob has done better than most, others have made it further more
Often, and in a shorter period of time

I don't care about other coaches or programs. I care about A&M, and I care about them competing for a national title better than what Rob has done for 14 years (hopefully he'll break through this year

He's done a great job of making the post season, and a pretty good job of competing in Regionals. He's done a poor job making it past super regionals, and an abysmal job of competing in the CWS on the rare occasions he makes it

We can be better

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Careful what you wish for.

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Not worried

I have faith in our professionals to get it right

And if they don't, keep trying

I'm personally hoping that you get the wins in Omaha that you deserve.

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I'm personally hoping that you get the wins in Omaha that you deserve.

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Oh, well thanks, but I never said I "deserve" wins in Omaha

But yes, I would love to see A&M compete better in the post season

MUCH better

Hopefully that happens this year

Hmmmm. Appears "making" a regional is the new gold standard.

Sandman, are you satisfied as a follower of the program with the offensive output over the last 3 years? Do you see anything in our recruiting right now that would lead you to come close to believing that we will be a good offensive club again in the near future? I've followed this program closely for 30+ years and think a lot of Rob Childress. That said, what he's run out there offensively the last 3 years is simply inexcusable at a school like A&M.

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Oh, comparison

I don't care about that. Rob has done better than most, others have made it further more
Often, and in a shorter period of time

I don't care about other coaches or programs. I care about A&M, and I care about them competing for a national title better than what Rob has done for 14 years (hopefully he'll break through this year

He's done a great job of making the post season, and a pretty good job of competing in Regionals. He's done a poor job making it past super regionals, and an abysmal job of competing in the CWS on the rare occasions he makes it

We can be better

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Careful what you wish for.

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Like what? No Omaha wins for 14 years?

Year 7 of SEC and we've now only hosted twice.

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A comp? An example of a fired coach with a similar resume. You're a baseball board regular so I'm assuming you can show me an example of a guy like RC who has been fired. My hope is that you'll begin to understand why there are no examples.

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Here's one:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_Laval

Captain Pablo,

Look going into the year he knew he needed hitting and other than Hoener he didn't address it. No excuse. Going into next year we have the exact same situation but without Shewmake. He will be lucky if he gets to return for another season.

If he gets another season I hope we all agree what needs to be done . He knows it, we know it. So no excuses . If he doesn't find some hitters than he needs to go. If I were him I would change hitting coaches so we all know he is legitimately trying to fix it. Once again it's on him. If he doesn't make a change he is putting his buddy ahead of Texas A&M.

The sad part is that it's not like we need a murderer's row batting order to win. We would be a Top 5 team this year if we were just an average hitting team instead of one of the worst hitting teams in team history.

We made a regional. We should he happy.

Season's not over yet

Have built, along with Childress, an inept and boring offensive baseball team.

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The sad part is that it's not like we need a murderer's row batting order to win. We would be a Top 5 team this year if we were just an average hitting team instead of one of the worst hitting teams in team history.

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The 2017 hit .273 and the 2018 team hit .285. They each slugged 50 points higher and had 16-18 more home runs than the current team. If we had approximated either of those averages, we would talking about our national seed right now. And though last year's team also had its problems at the plate (conference) they ended at 120 more hits on the season that the current team has, which was top 20 in the nation.

Seely has been with the team 11 years, meaning he's coached a number of better offenses. And no one was worried that Bolt was from Nebraska in 2015 and 2016 when he ran one of the top offenses in the country.

And people have bagged on getting players from Nebraska as well....but the players we got from Nebraska were Nolan Hoffman, team leading hitter Michael Helman (.369) and Foster, who was #2 on the team in slugging in his prior 2 seasons and led the team in home runs in an injury shortened campaign last year.

To pretend the coaches have turned in results as abysmal as this year's offense with any kind of consistency is dishonest, and the Nebraska boogeyman is just red meat for people that are excited that these guys are likely coaching for their careers this weekend.

Congrats to Rob, staff and players for a school-record 13th consecutive NCAA Tournament appearance!

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The sad part is that it's not like we need a murderer's row batting order to win. We would be a Top 5 team this year if we were just an average hitting team instead of one of the worst hitting teams in team history.

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The 2017 hit .273 and the 2018 team hit .285. They each slugged 50 points higher and had 16-18 more home runs than the current team. If we had approximated either of those averages, we would talking about our national seed right now. And though last year's team also had its problems at the plate (conference) they ended at 120 more hits on the season that the current team has, which was top 20 in the nation.

Seely has been with the team 11 years, meaning he's coached a number of better offenses. And no one was worried that Bolt was from Nebraska in 2015 and 2016 when he ran one of the top offenses in the country.

And people have bagged on getting players from Nebraska as well....but the players we got from Nebraska were Nolan Hoffman, team leading hitter Michael Helman (.369) and Foster, who was #2 on the team in slugging in his prior 2 seasons and led the team in home runs in an injury shortened campaign last year.

To pretend the coaches have turned in results as abysmal as this year's offense with any kind of consistency is dishonest, and the Nebraska boogeyman is just red meat for people that are excited that these guys are likely coaching for their careers this weekend.

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Good post

What seems to be the problem then? Stroke of bad luck?

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A comp? An example of a fired coach with a similar resume. You're a baseball board regular so I'm assuming you can show me an example of a guy like RC who has been fired. My hope is that you'll begin to understand why there are no examples.

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Here's one:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_Laval

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From your own link:

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Although Laval's first four years were fairly solid, they were below Tiger fans had come to expect. He began feeling pressure from LSU fans and the athletic administration, and it was generally felt that 2006 would be a make-or-break season for him. Unfortunately for Laval, the Tigers had their worst season since 1983, the year before Bertman arrived. The team finished the season with a record of 3524 and its first losing SEC record in 24 years. They missed the NCAA tournament for the first time in 18 years. Under pressure, Laval officially resigned on June 4, 2006.

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Differences versus where we are now:

• Laval was following a legend which is always difficult. Johnson was our best coach ever prior to Childress but he's certainly not Skip Bertman.
• LSU missed regionals his last year which Childress hasn't done since his first.
• He wasn't fired though that was probably a technicality. We all know how the "resigned under pressure" thing works.

IMO not a great comparison. Five years as the first coach after a guy with five national titles. That's a difficult gig to hold. Conversely Childress inherited a struggling program that had missed regionals four times in seven years. He's built one that has the 4th longest streak of regional play in the nation. We may all think the program is capable of better but the fact is that he's the best coach we've ever had and I tend to think he's safe until he misses the field entirely one year. Now that could be 2020 given what we return on offense but that's a topic for another day.

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Lance Uppercut said:

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Emilio Fantastico said:

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The sad part is that it's not like we need a murderer's row batting order to win. We would be a Top 5 team this year if we were just an average hitting team instead of one of the worst hitting teams in team history.

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The 2017 hit .273 and the 2018 team hit .285. They each slugged 50 points higher and had 16-18 more home runs than the current team. If we had approximated either of those averages, we would talking about our national seed right now. And though last year's team also had its problems at the plate (conference) they ended at 120 more hits on the season that the current team has, which was top 20 in the nation.

Seely has been with the team 11 years, meaning he's coached a number of better offenses. And no one was worried that Bolt was from Nebraska in 2015 and 2016 when he ran one of the top offenses in the country.

And people have bagged on getting players from Nebraska as well....but the players we got from Nebraska were Nolan Hoffman, team leading hitter Michael Helman (.369) and Foster, who was #2 on the team in slugging in his prior 2 seasons and led the team in home runs in an injury shortened campaign last year.

To pretend the coaches have turned in results as abysmal as this year's offense with any kind of consistency is dishonest, and the Nebraska boogeyman is just red meat for people that are excited that these guys are likely coaching for their careers this weekend.

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Good post

What seems to be the problem then? Stroke of bad luck?

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The balancing act in baseball is allocating money between pitching and position players. The 15 and 16 teams were offensive juggernauts with good but not deep pitching and both failed to get to Omaha. 16 stung the most as I think everyone thought that team was going to win it all then failed to win it's own Super. I think in response to being out pitched by TCU Childress pushed more money to the pitching staff which takes away from the rest of the team. These past three years were recruited on the heels of #MASHU which was 15 and 16 so that seems to make the most sense. It makes no sense that we'd recruit this group off of those years and miss this badly without some change to the recruiting formula.

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Stroke of bad luck?

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I know you're being facetious.

But I would assume recruiting, coaching, injuries last year and this year, player retention from the draft and otherwise, plus a team that seemed to press mentally at the plate from the first series against inferior competition through last weekend all contributed to the .249 batting average.

I would guess having Hunter Coleman's arm bones fully connected throughout a full season would have won us a few more games, enough to host. And I'm also of the opinion that Will Bolt could coach this same team in a hypothetical repeat of the 2019 season and have them hit at least as well as the 2017 or 2018 teams. Part of it is between the ears.

But no, not luck. Everything mentioned, including the mental approach, is part of coaching a college baseball team.

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Lance Uppercut said:

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The sad part is that it's not like we need a murderer's row batting order to win. We would be a Top 5 team this year if we were just an average hitting team instead of one of the worst hitting teams in team history.

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The 2017 hit .273 and the 2018 team hit .285. They each slugged 50 points higher and had 16-18 more home runs than the current team. If we had approximated either of those averages, we would talking about our national seed right now. And though last year's team also had its problems at the plate (conference) they ended at 120 more hits on the season that the current team has, which was top 20 in the nation.

Seely has been with the team 11 years, meaning he's coached a number of better offenses. And no one was worried that Bolt was from Nebraska in 2015 and 2016 when he ran one of the top offenses in the country.

And people have bagged on getting players from Nebraska as well....but the players we got from Nebraska were Nolan Hoffman, team leading hitter Michael Helman (.369) and Foster, who was #2 on the team in slugging in his prior 2 seasons and led the team in home runs in an injury shortened campaign last year.

To pretend the coaches have turned in results as abysmal as this year's offense with any kind of consistency is dishonest, and the Nebraska boogeyman is just red meat for people that are excited that these guys are likely coaching for their careers this weekend.

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Good post

What seems to be the problem then? Stroke of bad luck?

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Ole Pablo again, in his own unique ways, trying to stir the pot which he has a history of doing. Why don't you go find a customer to guide down the river to keep you busy?

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A comp? An example of a fired coach with a similar resume. You're a baseball board regular so I'm assuming you can show me an example of a guy like RC who has been fired. My hope is that you'll begin to understand why there are no examples.

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Here's one:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_Laval

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From your own link:

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Although Laval's first four years were fairly solid, they were below Tiger fans had come to expect. He began feeling pressure from LSU fans and the athletic administration, and it was generally felt that 2006 would be a make-or-break season for him. Unfortunately for Laval, the Tigers had their worst season since 1983, the year before Bertman arrived. The team finished the season with a record of 3524 and its first losing SEC record in 24 years. They missed the NCAA tournament for the first time in 18 years. Under pressure, Laval officially resigned on June 4, 2006.

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Differences versus where we are now:

• Laval was following a legend which is always difficult. Johnson was our best coach ever prior to Childress but he's certainly not Skip Bertman.
• LSU missed regionals his last year which Childress hasn't done since his first.
• He wasn't fired though that was probably a technicality. We all know how the "resigned under pressure" thing works.

IMO not a great comparison. Five years as the first coach after a guy with five national titles. That's a difficult gig to hold. Conversely Childress inherited a struggling program that had missed regionals four times in seven years. He's built one that has the 4th longest streak of regional play in the nation. We may all think the program is capable of better but the fact is that he's the best coach we've ever had and I tend to think he's safe until he misses the field entirely one year. Now that could be 2020 given what we return on offense but that's a topic for another day.

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Laval had 2 CWS trips in 5 seasons. RC has 2 in 14.

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LOYAL AG said:

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Sandman98 said:

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A comp? An example of a fired coach with a similar resume. You're a baseball board regular so I'm assuming you can show me an example of a guy like RC who has been fired. My hope is that you'll begin to understand why there are no examples.

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Here's one:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_Laval

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From your own link:

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Although Laval's first four years were fairly solid, they were below Tiger fans had come to expect. He began feeling pressure from LSU fans and the athletic administration, and it was generally felt that 2006 would be a make-or-break season for him. Unfortunately for Laval, the Tigers had their worst season since 1983, the year before Bertman arrived. The team finished the season with a record of 3524 and its first losing SEC record in 24 years. They missed the NCAA tournament for the first time in 18 years. Under pressure, Laval officially resigned on June 4, 2006.

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Differences versus where we are now:

• Laval was following a legend which is always difficult. Johnson was our best coach ever prior to Childress but he's certainly not Skip Bertman.
• LSU missed regionals his last year which Childress hasn't done since his first.
• He wasn't fired though that was probably a technicality. We all know how the "resigned under pressure" thing works.

IMO not a great comparison. Five years as the first coach after a guy with five national titles. That's a difficult gig to hold. Conversely Childress inherited a struggling program that had missed regionals four times in seven years. He's built one that has the 4th longest streak of regional play in the nation. We may all think the program is capable of better but the fact is that he's the best coach we've ever had and I tend to think he's safe until he misses the field entirely one year. Now that could be 2020 given what we return on offense but that's a topic for another day.

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Laval had 2 CWS trips in 5 seasons. RC has 2 in 14.

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And? Laval missed regionals in year 5 and Childress hasn't missed since year 1.

You're looking for a comparison which means a coach that was fired after a similar run of always being good but never being great. You can't fall back on a guy with a five year tenure that ended in a year with no regional appearance then say that compares to a guy that's been to regionals for 13 straight years. Those aren't the same. Had Laval made regionals that last year and been fired it would have been a significantly better comparison. Similarly if Childress misses next year and gets fired the comparison gets better.

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Captain Pablo said:

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Lance Uppercut said:

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The sad part is that it's not like we need a murderer's row batting order to win. We would be a Top 5 team this year if we were just an average hitting team instead of one of the worst hitting teams in team history.

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The 2017 hit .273 and the 2018 team hit .285. They each slugged 50 points higher and had 16-18 more home runs than the current team. If we had approximated either of those averages, we would talking about our national seed right now. And though last year's team also had its problems at the plate (conference) they ended at 120 more hits on the season that the current team has, which was top 20 in the nation.

Seely has been with the team 11 years, meaning he's coached a number of better offenses. And no one was worried that Bolt was from Nebraska in 2015 and 2016 when he ran one of the top offenses in the country.

And people have bagged on getting players from Nebraska as well....but the players we got from Nebraska were Nolan Hoffman, team leading hitter Michael Helman (.369) and Foster, who was #2 on the team in slugging in his prior 2 seasons and led the team in home runs in an injury shortened campaign last year.

To pretend the coaches have turned in results as abysmal as this year's offense with any kind of consistency is dishonest, and the Nebraska boogeyman is just red meat for people that are excited that these guys are likely coaching for their careers this weekend.

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Good post

What seems to be the problem then? Stroke of bad luck?

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Ole Pablo again, in his own unique ways, trying to stir the pot which he has a history of doing. Why don't you go find a customer to guide down the river to keep you busy?

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Lol. Like this pot ain't already stirring

Pay attention, son

Lance gave his opinion. What's yours?