Remember tu Austin Woods 13 inning performance

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NewAggieBallFan
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Found this update blerb on tu's Wood.

"...while fifth-round pick Austin Wood has, shockingly, been out almost all year with arm trouble; I hope University of Texas coach Augie Garrido, who used Wood for 13 innings in one relief appearance last May, is happy."

This is from a 2009 MLB Draft report on how last years prospects have fared after 1 year of their pro careers that was put up on espn.com today.
Aston94
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Link? Would like to read entire update.

Thanks.
Basketball and Chain
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Shocking news

Sucks for him.
Aggies2009
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I remember when all the tu idiots were saying that he was just fine. Nice to know that that drunkard idiot is more content with winning a regional game (and not even win the world series LMAO) than the kid's health.
OptionRead
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Every pitcher has a bit of arm trouble at some point. Probably related to the total amount of innings he threw rather than the 13 inning performance.
shinerbalk
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i think he threw like 140 pitches or something in those innings
Aggies2009
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He threw 170, and had thrown 30 the day before.

He also later said he was pitching on pure adrenaline which COULDN'T have been good for his arm once he settled down.

[This message has been edited by Aggies2009 (edited 5/27/2010 12:55p).]
VoodooAg
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Probably related to the total amount of innings he threw rather than the 13 inning performance.



That's still Garrido's fault though.
agwin12
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What? tu over using a pitcher? Unheard of.
JTaylor
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That's still Garrido's fault though.


Wood pitched 86 innings. Nothing the least bit alarming about that. Especially considering Texas played in the final game of the year.

Aston94
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Shocking when 13 of the 86 IP came on ONE DAY.

I don't care who you are, never, ever, ever, let a pitcher throw 13 innings and 170 pitches in one day.
dermdoc
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Kirk Dressendorfer ring a bell? Jim Gideon?

And the list goes on and on......
etexorange
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You aggies are pissing in the wind. These accusations have been thrown around about the Texas baseball program for 30-35 years. You all can huff and bluster all you want; us Texas fans will keep counting our conference titles, CWS appearances, and national titles. This "criticism" hasn't slowed down the program one bit.
ColoradoMooseHerd
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Does not mean it is not true? Just means you do not care.

This is an ESPN article.

Ragoo
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We've had our share of players get over worked throughout the year, esp under Rob.
etexorange
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Does not mean it is not true? Just means you do not care.

And apparently, neither do the recruits who sign with Texas year after year after year.
JTaylor
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Kirk Dressendorfer ring a bell? Jim Gideon?


Really? A player more than twenty years ago and a player almost forty years ago?

Check out Boyd Nation's pitch count watch for t his year and you'll see A&M on there a lot more than you'll see Texas.
AkersN
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The OP is referring to an ESPN insider article by Keith Law so he cant link it.

But if you guys are trying to find some validation for your "concern" over Austin, I dont think this article is it... considering the fact that Law is the same guy who wrote a particularly harsh (and stupid) article last year calling for Augie's head bc of Wood's pitch count in the BC game, the same article which you guys rallied around on this site.

FWIW 169 pitches wasnt even close to the most pitches thrown in college baseball last year. As highlighted by an article written by Deadspin (in response to Law's Garrido tirade) Texas-Pan American's Scott Wingo had 179 against Northern Colorado and Oral Roberts' Drew Bowen had 177 against Arkansas that very same week. At least 25 pitchers eclipsed the 160 mark last season. (And that represents an improvement over previous years. In measuring "Pitcher Abuse Points" that number has dropped steadily since 2006.)

Was Wood "over-used" pitching for Texas? Possibly, that is if you saw him as a top major-league prospect which he never was... and if you're are not of the Nolan Ryan school of thought. The thing is college baseball starters are almost all over-worked... most teams can only afford to keep 5 pitchers on scholarship, and with the compact schedule of college athletics, some wear and tear is going to happen.

Two weeks before Wood's outing, a Campbellsville juco pitcher, Bryan Fuller, tossed 21 shutout innings in a 26-hour period. He tossed 222 pitches in that two day span. Why did he do it? Bc he called it a "life moment" leading his team to their first ever world series berth and he didnt care about his arm.

Both Fuller and Wood were at best middling pro prospects, both of them refused to come out with a post-season game on the line, and both achieved the memory of a lifetime (as well as immortality in the baseball hall of fame) by gritting it out and delivering a big win for their teams.

I know you guys have an agenda here, but lets try and be real. If the shoe was on the other foot you guys would be treating that game as an all-time classic (which it was) and the participants as heroes. But bc its Texas, Augie Garrido is an evil coach who doesnt care about his own players, only padding his resume (like he needs it).
Gramercy Riffs
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Maybe we just had to post something to bring you guys out of hiding after yesterday's loss.
AggieBand2004
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I think etex is lost
http://www.texags.com/main/forum.topic.asp?forum_id=6&days=2
NoFear
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Akers, you portray the Deadspin article as if it is a defense of Augie's overuse of Wood, when it was far from it. Here's just the end:

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Austin Wood, however, is a middling pro prospect — a reliever, remember — who could find himself drafted in next week's amateur draft. His Boston College counterpart, Mike Belfiore (a reliever who threw 129 pitches), could go as high as the second round, according to Law. And now a red flag hangs over both their futures, the way it once did for Kirk Dressendorfer and Ben McDonald and Lane Mestepey; the way it probably should have for Mark Prior (who in his final year at USC had starts of 133 pitches, 129, 128, 125 and 120 twice). These are scary comparables. "It was abysmal even giving special circumstances points," Carroll writes of Wood. "He was dehydrated, puking ... and a reliever!"

And Belfiore? As a scout told Law, "He's probably damaged goods."


http://deadspin.com/5277374/austin-wood-and-the-pitch+count-question
Aggies2009
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Yeah, gotta love the pathetic whorns who let us get in their heads so bad that they constantly come to our site and beg for validation...
Agsncws
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Im not about to get into pitcher usage, but there is no such thing as a player refusing to come out of a game. If I were Augie, Rob, Connie Mack, or a coach of a T-ball team and I read someone suggest that one of my players "wouldnt come out" I'd blow a fuse. A coach is in charge. End.of.Discussion. And a coach as successful as Garrido didnt get there by letting his players run the ship. I hope I never read that bullsh-t line again, but I know I will from somebody some day.
Basketball and Chain
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A coach is in charge. End.of.Discussion. And a coach as successful as Garrido didnt get there by letting his players run the ship. I hope I never read that bullsh-t line again, but I know I will from somebody some day.


Amen. The kids are competitors. The coach is responsible for telling them when enough is enough.
Cabbage
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Even the tu fans have no concern for their players. Use 'em and lose 'em is just fine with them.
AggieBand2004
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Yet a hothead prima donna like Clemens makes a brief stay in Austin, and they swing from his nutsack for the rest of time.
Aggies2009
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Or Kevin Durant. What a pathetic bunch.
TexasRebel
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sooo... would you rather a player have a CWS appearance or a pro carreer?
W
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Augie's handling of this situation and the reaction of the longhorn fans were a disgrace one year ago. And they still are now. Utterly pathetic and completely irresponsible.

Kudos to the many texags posters who correctly predicted this sad fate for Austin Wood.
Boy Named Sue
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Rick Barnes woulda yanked him, since he's only worried about preparing kids to live their dream in the pros.
AB2
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Rick Barnes withdrew his name from bullpen consideration that night.
85AustinAg
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sips - this one's a lost cause, reel in those ego driven reflexes and save it for another word battle....
agforlife97
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Check out Boyd Nation's pitch count watch for t his year and you'll see A&M on there a lot more than you'll see Texas.


No argument here. Rob has probably felt like he had little choice with the way his team has struggled in the other phases of the game this season. I hope it does not impact recruiting on the mound.
Aston94
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Funny to me how a comment about one coach overusing one pitcher (and doing so blatantly) has elicited responses of:

1. Yeah, but your coach does it too;
2. You're just jealous;
3. It has happened before (20 years ago);
4. 2 other pitchers were pitched that much last year; and
5. (my personal favorite) some juco player with no future pitched more last year and he said it was his "shining moment".

Unbelievable.

I stand by my initial statement: No pitcher should through 13 innings and/or 170 pitches in a game.
ColoradoMooseHerd
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If he was a starter that was used to that type of work, I might be able to look the other way if a pitcher through a lot of innings or pitches on a rare occasion. But Wood was reliever that only through 86 innnings on the entire season. He was only conditioned to throw a few innings at most. This was a definite case of abuse of pitcher.
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