Ag1188 said:

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Method Man said:

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Complete Idiot said:

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Auburn 53

Alabama 51

UT 51

UK 49

A&M 44

UF 43

Arkie 35

MSU 32

Vandy 30

USC 28

Missouri 26

Ole Miss 24

LSU 23

UGA 21

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This is the 8-4 of basketball.

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Careful, they hadn't figured that out yet. Jimbo was 5th in SEC wins too.

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I don't agree it's equivalent to 8-4 in football. In conference, we are at .500 in SEC play almost every year. Only 4 times in 12 years did we finish higher than 4th - IN THE WEST, not overall. On top of that, more resources and backing put into the football program.

It's not much better, but it's better. My hope when hiring Buzz was to be a top 4 SEC team each year and make the tourney, sweet 16 or better every 4 years. We didn't get there, but we were 5th in the SEC over a 4 year period. Whereas with BK we had 7th, 9th, 9th, 9th, 11th, and 11th for 6 of the 8 seasons. Buzz elevated us to a 2nd, 5th, 5th, 6th, and 7th in his 5 years. I would like to be further elevated but I also don't know what kind of super force coach can get that out of our program.

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Auburn 53

Alabama 51

UT 51

UK 49

A&M 44

UF 43

Arkie 35

MSU 32

Vandy 30

USC 28

Missouri 26

Ole Miss 24

LSU 23

UGA 21

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Is there some rationale for putting tu in there and not Oklahoma? tu doesn't belong on the list making us no. 4. Of course no. 4 is not ever going to be good enough even in a year like this year with the conference as strong as it was. Nor is anything less than Sweet 16. I'd love it "consistently", but I don't demand it in any specific year or else.

Thats Tennessee.

Complete Idiot said:

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Auburn 53

Alabama 51

UT 51

UK 49

A&M 44

UF 43

Arkie 35

MSU 32

Vandy 30

USC 28

Missouri 26

Ole Miss 24

LSU 23

UGA 21

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Why do this over the last 4 years? Are you trying to make Buzz look better? Here's the tally over Buzz's tenure.

1. Auburn 72 wins
2. Alabama 70 wins
3. Tennessee 66 wins
4. Kentucky 64 wins
5. Florida 63 wins
6. Texas A&M 52 wins
7. Mississippi State 52 wins
8. Missouri 46 wins
9. Arkansas 45 wins
10. Ole Miss 44 wins
11. LSU 47 wins
12. South Carolina 37 wins
13. Vanderbilt 34 wins
14. Georgia 32 wins

It amazes me that some people think 6-7 place in conference and 2 tournament wins is "pretty good". It was past time to move on, even at the risk of doing worse.

texag101 said:

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Complete Idiot said:

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Auburn 53

Alabama 51

UT 51

UK 49

A&M 44

UF 43

Arkie 35

MSU 32

Vandy 30

USC 28

Missouri 26

Ole Miss 24

LSU 23

UGA 21

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Why do this over the last 4 years? Are you trying to make Buzz look better? Here's the tally over Buzz's tenure.

1. Auburn 72 wins
2. Alabama 70 wins
3. Tennessee 66 wins
4. Kentucky 64 wins
5. Florida 63 wins
6. Texas A&M 52 wins
7. Mississippi State 52 wins
8. Missouri 46 wins
9. Arkansas 45 wins
10. Ole Miss 44 wins
11. LSU 47 wins
12. South Carolina 37 wins
13. Vanderbilt 34 wins
14. Georgia 32 wins

It amazes me that some people think 6-7 place in conference and 2 tournament wins is "pretty good". It was past time to move on, even at the risk of doing worse.

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You are including an incomplete year where A&M played 6 fewer games than any other SEC team, so that's not even apples to apples. I doubt we would have won many more, if ANY more, SEC games if we had played a full slate - it's fair to see Buzz bombed the Covid year whereas Jimbo maybe profited a bit. I don't thinks its a good year to measure with since playing fields were unfair due to true illnesses, or local and regional policies, etc.

A&M had the 5th most wins in the SEC over the past 4 years, they had a second place finish, two 5ths, and a 7th. I would say only the 4 year Turgeon run was better, as far as position in a conference, in A&M basketball history. We will finish ranked in the AP poll twice, only equaled by Turgeon but our rankings will be higher under Buzz. He made 3 straight NCAA tournaments and it was a hair's breadth from 4 straight. We had our second highest ever ranking in the AP poll this last season. We had our second highest ever NCAA tourney seed.

You can say "pretty good" if talking nationally, comparing to every SEC and national team including all the blue bloods. You could also compare it to A&M history, with some knowledge of our program history and program support, and say it possible was the best 4 year run in the history of A&M basketball or comparable to it.

Buzz did not quite meet my expectations when he was hired, but he was pretty close. I'd of course like to see the Ags do even better. With the right coach and NIL support, we can do even better.

Complete Idiot said:

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texag101 said:

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Complete Idiot said:

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Auburn 53

Alabama 51

UT 51

UK 49

A&M 44

UF 43

Arkie 35

MSU 32

Vandy 30

USC 28

Missouri 26

Ole Miss 24

LSU 23

UGA 21

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Why do this over the last 4 years? Are you trying to make Buzz look better? Here's the tally over Buzz's tenure.

1. Auburn 72 wins
2. Alabama 70 wins
3. Tennessee 66 wins
4. Kentucky 64 wins
5. Florida 63 wins
6. Texas A&M 52 wins
7. Mississippi State 52 wins
8. Missouri 46 wins
9. Arkansas 45 wins
10. Ole Miss 44 wins
11. LSU 47 wins
12. South Carolina 37 wins
13. Vanderbilt 34 wins
14. Georgia 32 wins

It amazes me that some people think 6-7 place in conference and 2 tournament wins is "pretty good". It was past time to move on, even at the risk of doing worse.

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You are including an incomplete year where A&M played 6 fewer games than any other SEC team, so that's not even apples to apples. I doubt we would have won many more, if ANY more, SEC games if we had played a full slate - it's fair to see Buzz bombed the Covid year whereas Jimbo maybe profited a bit. I don't thinks its a good year to measure with since playing fields were unfair due to true illnesses, or local and regional policies, etc.

A&M had the 5th most wins in the SEC over the past 4 years, they had a second place finish, two 5ths, and a 7th. I would say only the 4 year Turgeon run was better, as far as position in a conference, in A&M basketball history. We will finish ranked in the AP poll twice, only equaled by Turgeon but our rankings will be higher under Buzz. He made 3 straight NCAA tournaments and it was a hair's breadth from 4 straight. We had our second highest ever ranking in the AP poll this last season. We had our second highest ever NCAA tourney seed.

You can say "pretty good" if talking nationally, comparing to every SEC and national team including all the blue bloods. You could also compare it to A&M history, with some knowledge of our program history and program support, and say it possible was the best 4 year run in the history of A&M basketball or comparable to it.

Buzz did not quite meet my expectations when he was hired, but he was pretty close. I'd of course like to see the Ags do even better. With the right coach and NIL support, we can do even better.

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Just because our former coaches sucked doesn't mean Buzz didn't suck. Middle of the pack SEC and two tournament wins sucks. There's just no other way to spin it, unless you're satisfied with severe mediocrity.