bobinator said:

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Ag1188 said:

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Who all have we been rejected by for these to be the options. Lol

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Glad the people ****ing all over Buzz's last three seasons are seeing why a lot of us would have been fine with him sticking around.

It was always likely that a basketball coaching search for us was going to end up in a risky and unproven hire at best and a boring mid coach at worst.

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Almost like a ton of these people have a complete misunderstanding of where Texas A&M basketball stands in the national landscape. It is also why many of us could be frustrated with some things about Buzz and the way he ran things, but were overall fairly pleased with where the program stood.

Do we want to shoot higher and achieve more? Of course we do! But we also weren't naive to the fact that this is what an A&M basketball coaching search looks like.

Bunk Moreland said:

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He needs Rodney Terry on staff. Or somebody with a lot of experience and good recruiting background

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Pair Rodney with Bucky and i'm ready for the gamble.

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Based on my casual observations, RT is a pretty good recruiter and a pretty bad gameday coach. The latter shouldn't matter if Bucky is in charge. And having someone that could help with local recruiting could be a plus.

If we were to hire Rodney terry, you may as well close the book completely on Aggie basketball. Terry is atrocious and nobody liked him at Texas. He was a DEI hire and not a good one. Jesus Christ even their star lottery pick didn't like playing for him. Wake up

you can't get more Aggie than Bucky

Yeah, and the guys were talking about are good options, it's just always where this thing was likely headed.

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For what its worth, people around UAB were absolutely ready to jump on him (samford is like 10 minutes from UAB) if Andy Kennedy left. I think Bucky is going to level up in the next couple of years anyway so why not buy low? Caveat of course would be a veteran lead assistant (Rodney Terry) to help his growth curve.

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Rodney terry is atrocious and Bucky isn't going anywhere. Throw money at high profiles and make them say no. What's the worse that could happen? They say no? Ooooooooooo

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Complete Idiot said:

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Bucky McMillan has built Samford into a mid-major power, without leaving home


(Top photo of Bucky McMillan: Courtesy of Samford Athletics)

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Username checks out!

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Oh no.

Terry is just an example and someone we know is available there's plenty of other guys that are similar.

It's not about Terry specifically as it is a Terry type. Someone who's been around successful high major programs.

bobinator said:

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Ag1188 said:

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Who all have we been rejected by for these to be the options. Lol

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Glad the people ****ing all over Buzz's last three seasons are seeing why a lot of us would have been fine with him sticking around.

It was always likely that a basketball coaching search for us was going to end up in a risky and unproven hire at best and a boring mid coach at worst.

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I have a lot of respect for you. You're smart and I appreciate that. I hang out on this board vs premium because of posters like you.

My challenge to you is - no matter what we think, Buzz was gone. We were going to be in this position regardless, but that's just me.

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superunknown said:

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For what its worth, people around UAB were absolutely ready to jump on him (samford is like 10 minutes from UAB) if Andy Kennedy left. I think Bucky is going to level up in the next couple of years anyway so why not buy low? Caveat of course would be a veteran lead assistant (Rodney Terry) to help his growth curve.

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Rodney terry is atrocious and Bucky isn't going anywhere. Throw money at high profiles and make them say no. What's the worse that could happen? They say no? Ooooooooooo

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This is literally what we have done over the last couple of days and it went exactly like many expected. They did what they should by making the run at Beard, it didn't work. Reports are we called McCasland, as we should, and it was a quick no. After that top tier said no, we're now working down the list.

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justsomeguy said:

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superunknown said:

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For what its worth, people around UAB were absolutely ready to jump on him (samford is like 10 minutes from UAB) if Andy Kennedy left. I think Bucky is going to level up in the next couple of years anyway so why not buy low? Caveat of course would be a veteran lead assistant (Rodney Terry) to help his growth curve.

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Rodney terry is atrocious and Bucky isn't going anywhere. Throw money at high profiles and make them say no. What's the worse that could happen? They say no? Ooooooooooo

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This is literally what we have done over the last couple of days and it went exactly like many expected. They did what they should by making the run at Beard, it didn't work. Reports are we called McCasland, as we should, and it was a quick no. After that top tier said no, we're now working down the list.

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Buzz also waited long enough to make his move, that some of the coaches that may have actually been options already signed contracts at new colleges.

If we're truly working down the list then in my opinion we should take a big risk and hire a young up and comer and don't bother with the retreads. Huss or Bucky seem to fit the bill IMO. Let one of them come in and give them ample NIL money to build a roster.

Thanks for posting this. I could watch inbounds/ATO plays/breakdowns all day long.

Choosing between Huss and McMillan feels pretty underwhelming. If those were the only two options, then I would go with Huss due to his much better coaching background and overall success. However, can they put together an SEC roster in less than three weeks? I am not sure. It feels like what LSU did by bringing McMahon from Murray State, but at least he had consistent success for six years, but so far, he has not been able to get things going at that place.

If we are going to go after guys like McMillan and Huss, we might as well try something more "splashy" in terms of name recognition/brand, such as Luke Murray (Uconn).

Aparently a couple Samford players just entered the portal. Could it mean something?

vander54 said:

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Aparently a couple Samford players just entered the portal. Could it mean something?

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I saw a former Sanford player entered the portal.

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Choosing between Huss and McMillan feels pretty underwhelming. If those were the only two options, then I would go with Huss due to his much better coaching background and overall success. However, can they put together an SEC roster in less than three weeks? I am not sure. It feels like what LSU did by bringing McMahon from Murray State, but at least he had consistent success for six years, but so far, he has not been able to get things going at that place.

If we are going to go after guys like McMillan and Huss, we might as well try something more "splashy" in terms of name recognition/brand, such as Luke Murray (Uconn).

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I agree.

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Aparently a couple Samford players just entered the portal. Could it mean something?

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Not seeing it, got a link?

https://www.on3.com/college/samford-bulldogs/transfer-portal/wire/basketball/

https://www.on3.com/college/high-point-panthers/transfer-portal/wire/basketball/

agtrevino07 said:

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Choosing between Huss and McMillan feels pretty underwhelming. If those were the only two options, then I would go with Huss due to his much better coaching background and overall success. However, can they put together an SEC roster in less than three weeks? I am not sure. It feels like what LSU did by bringing McMahon from Murray State, but at least he had consistent success for six years, but so far, he has not been able to get things going at that place.

If we are going to go after guys like McMillan and Huss, we might as well try something more "splashy" in terms of name recognition/brand, such as Luke Murray (Uconn).

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Why does it have to be less than 3 weeks? We got Phelps last year on May 2.

I hope not, since McMillan is the least exciting out of almost all the candidates.

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vander54 said:

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Aparently a couple Samford players just entered the portal. Could it mean something?

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Not seeing it, got a link?

https://www.on3.com/college/samford-bulldogs/transfer-portal/wire/basketball/

https://www.on3.com/college/high-point-panthers/transfer-portal/wire/basketball/

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No. That's why I said apparently. Just something I was told

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agtrevino07 said:

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Choosing between Huss and McMillan feels pretty underwhelming. If those were the only two options, then I would go with Huss due to his much better coaching background and overall success. However, can they put together an SEC roster in less than three weeks? I am not sure. It feels like what LSU did by bringing McMahon from Murray State, but at least he had consistent success for six years, but so far, he has not been able to get things going at that place.

If we are going to go after guys like McMillan and Huss, we might as well try something more "splashy" in terms of name recognition/brand, such as Luke Murray (Uconn).

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Why does it have to be less than 3 weeks? We got Phelps last year on May 2.

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"According to the NCAA, the portal opens for business on Monday, March 24, and closes on Tuesday, April 22, 2025"

Last year the portal was open for 45 days while this year is only 30 days.

Totally agree. I think we'd have hopped on Hodge or Pitino (assuming he'd want the job) pretty quickly after the top level guys said no had this happened two weeks ago.

All open means is able to enter.

agtrevino07 said:

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TjgtAg08 said:

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agtrevino07 said:

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Choosing between Huss and McMillan feels pretty underwhelming. If those were the only two options, then I would go with Huss due to his much better coaching background and overall success. However, can they put together an SEC roster in less than three weeks? I am not sure. It feels like what LSU did by bringing McMahon from Murray State, but at least he had consistent success for six years, but so far, he has not been able to get things going at that place.

If we are going to go after guys like McMillan and Huss, we might as well try something more "splashy" in terms of name recognition/brand, such as Luke Murray (Uconn).

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Why does it have to be less than 3 weeks? We got Phelps last year on May 2.

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"According to the NCAA, the portal opens for business on Monday, March 24, and closes on Tuesday, April 22, 2025"

Last year the portal was open for 45 days while this year is only 30 days.

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That's simply the window to ENTER. The musical chairs of finding new teams doesn't have to be done by April 22nd

ja! You and vander54 are right! I just read the rest of the guidelines, and that's pretty much what it is. Thank you for clarifying.

agtrevino07 said:

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agtrevino07 said:

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Choosing between Huss and McMillan feels pretty underwhelming. If those were the only two options, then I would go with Huss due to his much better coaching background and overall success. However, can they put together an SEC roster in less than three weeks? I am not sure. It feels like what LSU did by bringing McMahon from Murray State, but at least he had consistent success for six years, but so far, he has not been able to get things going at that place.

If we are going to go after guys like McMillan and Huss, we might as well try something more "splashy" in terms of name recognition/brand, such as Luke Murray (Uconn).

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Why does it have to be less than 3 weeks? We got Phelps last year on May 2.

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"According to the NCAA, the portal opens for business on Monday, March 24, and closes on Tuesday, April 22, 2025"

Last year the portal was open for 45 days while this year is only 30 days.

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I'm fairly certain that just means you have to enter the portal by that date, it doesn't mean recruiting and signing is over.

some duragat guy on twitter says the contract is signed.....

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I hope not, since McMillan is the least exciting out of almost all the candidates.

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Overwhelmed is an over statement.

But looking at our past hiring for basketball this falls inline. We hired BG from UTEP, MT from Wichita ST, BK from Murray St, and BW from Va tech. Buzz being the only P5 hire.

agtrevino07 said:

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Choosing between Huss and McMillan feels pretty underwhelming. If those were the only two options, then I would go with Huss due to his much better coaching background and overall success. However, can they put together an SEC roster in less than three weeks? I am not sure. It feels like what LSU did by bringing McMahon from Murray State, but at least he had consistent success for six years, but so far, he has not been able to get things going at that place.

If we are going to go after guys like McMillan and Huss, we might as well try something more "splashy" in terms of name recognition/brand, such as Luke Murray (Uconn).

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This is where I'm at. Huss and McMillan are just as much of a gamble as Luke Murray (if not more). They are good coaches at a mid-major level, but neither Huss nor McMillan has had to try to recruit in elite circles. Not that I expect the next coach to be pulling in 5 stars from across the country right away, but at least Murray has seen the inside of a program that has won at an elite level and can sell that and was the "offensive coordinator". Beating the crap out of directional Carolina schools may be impressive, but it's an entirely different ball game than running a big time college basketball program. I'm not saying Murray is definitely the guy either, but if this is the pool of candidates, at least give him an interview and see if you think he has the leadership and organization skills to lead a program.

We were able to offer $7M for Chris Beard 3 days ago, but now we are going with some options options from 3rd tier leagues. Big South (High Point) ranked the #14 league...while Buck McMillan will come from Southern ranked #16...I can't believe that there was no other option available. Why not try a last-minute "steal" to get Ross Hodge, who just signed up with WVU?

Or if you are going to gamble, why not go after Bryce Drew from Grand Canyon? I am just surprised and disappointed that our options are coaches from High Point, Samford and that's it?

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Was typing up a thread on Bucky Ball, here's what I've got so far:

Enough people are talking about this that let's go ahead and break this one down.

In one word on this one: BOLD.

Pros:

- Outside the box. And I mean WAY outside of it. McMillian went to Samford straight from the high school ranks.
- Took Samford to their first NCAA Tournament in 24 years last year where they mounted a huge comeback against Kansas that feel short in part because one of the worst calls in recent history, and has won the SoCon two of the last three seasons, which Samford had also not done since 2000.
- Innovative style - This will not be a boring team to watch. Samford has been a top 100 tempo team in four of his five seasons, they absolutely fire the ball up there. They've been high in 3pt rate and 3pt% the last several years

Cons:

- Lack of coaching connections? He's been in the college ranks all of four years. Can he put together the kind of staff he's going to need to win at this level?
- Recruiting? Same deal here. He has not recruited at this level. That said, he is kind of a system coach, so that could be a big advantage here. He may not need the best players to win, just the ones that fit.
- Unknown if his style can work at this level. But that's what they say about every style until it does.

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I wonder if Coach Roc would stay on........he's a Texas guy through and through. Him + Terry would be a pretty solid start if you could swing it.

From Chris Beard to a dude in high school only a few years ago.

I assume Coach Rocaforte is gone. He is one of Buzz closest friends.

FWIW one of the guys on the Samford staff was on BK's staff here. Cole.