Call your shot re: tu

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Haven't really followed their season but have been reading up on their bubble status. Everything I see shows they are 13th in a league projected to get 12 bids and a less than 50% chance of getting in after their season finale loss to OU.

But... we all know.... "its texas"

How much of a run do they need in the SEC tourney for the committee to weasle them in? Will they give the SEC 13 teams to make it work or do they snub Arky or someone else to get them in?

OR, do they actually leave tu sitting at home?
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i think they need to win 1 game to be in
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I think they need to beat us just to even be considered as on the bubble.
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i hope texas beats vandy i want to rip their tournament hearts out ourselves.

i have never rooted for texas but this time i will i want them to feel that pain. and i want us to cause it.
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I hope they make the tournament AND win a game so its that much harder for them to fire Terry.
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TjgtAg08 said:

I hope they make the tournament AND win a game so its that much harder for them to fire Terry.
i think he's gone no matter what
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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

i hope texas beats vandy i want to rip their tournament hearts out ourselves.

i have never rooted for texas but this time i will i want them to feel that pain. and i want us to cause it.


If they beat vandy they might get in anyway even if we beat them

Let vandy beat them to leave no doubt that they are out

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I think there should be less attention paid to tu on this board.
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waco_aggie05 said:

Haven't really followed their season but have been reading up on their bubble status. Everything I see shows they are 13th in a league projected to get 12 bids and a less than 50% chance of getting in after their season finale loss to OU.

But... we all know.... "its texas"

How much of a run do they need in the SEC tourney for the committee to weasle them in? Will they give the SEC 13 teams to make it work or do they snub Arky or someone else to get them in?

OR, do they actually leave tu sitting at home?
I'll call this shot. If there is ever a bubble team that gets in as the 13th seed, it will be t.u. In addition, if they get in as a 13th seed, we will be a 4 seed and they will pair us up in the regional.
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Aginnebraska said:

waco_aggie05 said:

Haven't really followed their season but have been reading up on their bubble status. Everything I see shows they are 13th in a league projected to get 12 bids and a less than 50% chance of getting in after their season finale loss to OU.

But... we all know.... "its texas"

How much of a run do they need in the SEC tourney for the committee to weasle them in? Will they give the SEC 13 teams to make it work or do they snub Arky or someone else to get them in?

OR, do they actually leave tu sitting at home?
I'll call this shot. If there is ever a bubble team that gets in as the 13th seed, it will be t.u. In addition, if they get in as a 13th seed, we will be a 4 seed and they will pair us up in the regional.

Yea… they can't do that.
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BQ_90 said:

TjgtAg08 said:

I hope they make the tournament AND win a game so its that much harder for them to fire Terry.
i think he's gone no matter what
Yeah, you are probably right, but one can dream. As good of a recruiter as he is, he can't coach those guys out of a paper bag.
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TexasAGGIEinAR said:

I think there should be less attention paid to tu on this board.


In state and our biggest rival, it's a relevant topic, and if sips get in as 13th with just one win over Vandy, it's yet another example of how much grace they get vs most schools.
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And if they don't it's another example that people will just ignore and continue believing their conspiracy theories anyway.

I called my shot way back before the season started. They're not making it.
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Muy said:

TexasAGGIEinAR said:

I think there should be less attention paid to tu on this board.


In state and our biggest rival, it's a relevant topic, and if sips get in as 13th with just one win over Vandy, it's yet another example of how much grace they get vs most schools.
Money they bring in…
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They are actually 14th in a league projected to get in 12.5

Oklahoma is a clear 13th best profile above Texas.

Texas has to at a minimum beat Vandy and us to even start to be in the conversation, even with that it's always dangerous to build your resume this close to selection Sunday. I don't think they have a real chance unless they beat Vandy, us and Tennessee. Even then it wouldn't be shocking to see them in the NIT.
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greg.w.h said:

Muy said:

TexasAGGIEinAR said:

I think there should be less attention paid to tu on this board.


In state and our biggest rival, it's a relevant topic, and if sips get in as 13th with just one win over Vandy, it's yet another example of how much grace they get vs most schools.
Money they bring in…


Ding, ding! Never forget that this collegiate sport stuff is a money business, not a sports philosophy association. All that matters is the bottom line. Not who's feelings get hurt or what is the right thing to do.
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To be clear: the NCAA's shamateurism was an utter failure and they sold out the lower level schools to pay just the back pay of over $2 billion to the piper for their intentional anti-trust violations.

The front looking situation is worse and if the paid $2 billion for 2016 to roughly 2024, then how many schools paying $20 million per year for internal use of name, image, and likeness as a matter of revenue share does it take to equal $2 billion / eight years in annual revenue share?

The answer is surprisingly small.
$2 billion / 8 = $250 million
$250 million / $20 million per school = 12.5 schools.

The legal team of the House students (it's several lawsuits) are attempting between scholarships and NIL to take down roughly 50% of the primary two revenue sports which, of course, pay for most of the rest.

Note the NCAA has agreed to the current settlement agreement and one of the details is a Delotte group that will attempt to set value for students with respect to sport and position for their NIL payments.

The Biden administration attempted to overrule the judge's oversight by claiming it must be distributed by Title IX meaning equal distribution to men and women athletes. But Trump withdrew the claim already.

I suspect this will undo Title IX for sports funding.

But the $20 million plus annual escalator is likely the primary qualifier for being in a power conference going forward. And conferences likely will require equivalent spend for all aspects of athletic department spend. I do anticipate an independent effort directly and privately funded to separately fund women at an equivalent level. But I can't begin to guess how that will work:
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NBA & Other Basketball

Basketball unrelated to A&M
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@home...
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Aggies 2022
Overall Record: 23-12
SEC Record: 12-10
Record vs. Top-25: 3-4
Best Win: Neutral Home vs. No. 4 Auburn (edit for accuracy)

tu 2025
Overall Record: 17-14
SEC Record: 6-12
Record vs. Top-25: 4-7
Best Win: Home vs. No. 13 aTm

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I think Texas needs to win 3 games. That requires them beating A&M and Tennessee
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Some of this isn't relevant. The conference record and record against the top 25 don't matter.
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Knoxville_Ag_08 said:

Aggies 2022
Overall Record: 23-12
SEC Record: 12-10
Record vs. Top-25: 3-4
Best Win: Neutral vs. No. 4 Auburn

tu 2025
Overall Record: 17-14
SEC Record: 6-12
Record vs. Top-25: 4-7
Best Win: Home vs. No. 13 aTm




gosh dang it, you show me that and now i know they are in if they beat vandy.
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Been trying to tell you…
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There's no way a team with a 6-12 conference record should even be in the conversation (unless they win the conference tournament). I don't even think the 8-10 teams should be in. IMO, you should be .500 or better in conference to go the tournament.
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Texas A&M said:

There's no way a team with a 6-12 conference record should even be in the conversation (unless they win the conference tournament). I don't even think the 8-10 teams should be in. IMO, you should be .500 or better in conference to go the tournament.
Ummm, wow.
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Texas A&M said:

There's no way a team with a 6-12 conference record should even be in the conversation (unless they win the conference tournament). I don't even think the 8-10 teams should be in. IMO, you should be .500 or better in conference to go the tournament.


So you don't think the committee should select the best teams. Weird stance.
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I was under the impression that the conference tournament would not get you in unless you won it in a situation like this. Tournament wins can affect seeding if you're in, but not get you in.
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MarcAg said:

Texas A&M said:

There's no way a team with a 6-12 conference record should even be in the conversation (unless they win the conference tournament). I don't even think the 8-10 teams should be in. IMO, you should be .500 or better in conference to go the tournament.


So you don't think the committee should select the best teams. Weird stance.
I just don't think that you're one of the 'best teams' if you can't go .500 in conference play.

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Texas A&M said:

MarcAg said:

Texas A&M said:

There's no way a team with a 6-12 conference record should even be in the conversation (unless they win the conference tournament). I don't even think the 8-10 teams should be in. IMO, you should be .500 or better in conference to go the tournament.


So you don't think the committee should select the best teams. Weird stance.
I just don't think that you're one of the 'best teams' if you can't go .500 in conference play.




So you think SMU at 13-7 in a horrible ACC deserves to be in over Miss St. who plays in the strongest conference. Basketball has ever seen.
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Texas A&M said:

MarcAg said:

Texas A&M said:

There's no way a team with a 6-12 conference record should even be in the conversation (unless they win the conference tournament). I don't even think the 8-10 teams should be in. IMO, you should be .500 or better in conference to go the tournament.


So you don't think the committee should select the best teams. Weird stance.
I just don't think that you're one of the 'best teams' if you can't go .500 in conference play.


Arbitrary cutoff if the conference is better is arbitrary if not punishing. Why punish better conferences?
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Texas A&M said:

MarcAg said:

Texas A&M said:

There's no way a team with a 6-12 conference record should even be in the conversation (unless they win the conference tournament). I don't even think the 8-10 teams should be in. IMO, you should be .500 or better in conference to go the tournament.


So you don't think the committee should select the best teams. Weird stance.
I just don't think that you're one of the 'best teams' if you can't go .500 in conference play.




So who you play doesn't matter? Wild.

Kentucky is just barely over .500 at 10-8 and they are a 3 seed in the tourney and some are saying they could move up to a 2 seed. You don't understand how great this conference is. You have to look deeper than just the record. Half the top 12 teams in the tourney will likely come from SEC. 6 SEC in top 12 compared to 3 Big 12, 1 Big East, 1 ACC
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wont get in unless there is a bunch of favorites winning their Conference C-Ship, then they might.

rather, won't get in if there are a lot of darkhorses advancing by auto-bid.
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MarcAg said:

Texas A&M said:

MarcAg said:

Texas A&M said:

There's no way a team with a 6-12 conference record should even be in the conversation (unless they win the conference tournament). I don't even think the 8-10 teams should be in. IMO, you should be .500 or better in conference to go the tournament.


So you don't think the committee should select the best teams. Weird stance.
I just don't think that you're one of the 'best teams' if you can't go .500 in conference play.




So you think SMU at 13-7 in a horrible ACC deserves to be in over Miss St. who plays in the strongest conference. Basketball has ever seen.

I never said that SMU should be in over Miss St. The make it/not make it line will always be different in every conference. My opinion was just that the bar should be set at a .500 conference record.

And as far as 'the strongest conference basketball has ever seen', you may be right.... but we should wait at least until the start of the 2nd weekend of the tournament before we go there.
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Texas A&M said:

MarcAg said:

Texas A&M said:

MarcAg said:

Texas A&M said:

There's no way a team with a 6-12 conference record should even be in the conversation (unless they win the conference tournament). I don't even think the 8-10 teams should be in. IMO, you should be .500 or better in conference to go the tournament.


So you don't think the committee should select the best teams. Weird stance.
I just don't think that you're one of the 'best teams' if you can't go .500 in conference play.




So you think SMU at 13-7 in a horrible ACC deserves to be in over Miss St. who plays in the strongest conference. Basketball has ever seen.

I never said that SMU should be in over Miss St. The make it/not make it line will always be different in every conference. My opinion was just that the bar should be set at a .500 conference record.

And as far as 'the strongest conference basketball has ever seen', you may be right.... but we should wait at least until the start of the 2nd weekend of the tournament before we go there.
No. You look at non-conference to establish body of work. You repeated an arbitrary standard without substantiating your position by the way avd admitted it's just this idea you have.
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