Thoughts on Tourney

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phatty26
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This team is better suited to play a bigger conference team in 7-10 seed line than be a 3-5 seed.
Hear me out we are so unfundamentally sound that in that seed line you typically get a mid major who is sound fundamentally and can shoot. That is our kryptonite and we'll leave some guy wide open and he'll go off for a career high. Just my thoughts watching this team play ugly ball
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Umm what? No. If we get a 7-10 aeed it will mean that we played bad over the next 6 weeks and deserve a 7-10 seed.

If we are a 3-5 seed it will mean what you said isn't true and we are an almost great team and deserve the 3-5
Seed.
phatty26
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Yes I understand the better seeding but we are horrible vs fundamentally sound teams. Anything you saw today make you feel confident. Now we know how ou and ole miss feel as we stole those games.
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Tourney...you've got that horse way out in front of the cart.
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TMartin said:



Tourney...you've got that horse way out in front of the cart.


There's not a question of if we make the tourney. If we don't, the program better be completely gutted
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Yea… no. A&M probably needs to win 3 more games to be in.
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TMartin said:



Tourney...you've got that horse way out in front of the cart.
We currently have a 99.9% chance of making it. I wouldn't say that's putting the horse way out in front of the cart.

https://www.google.com/search?q=what+are+texas+A%26M+odds+to+make+march+madness&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS1007US1007&oq=what+are+texas+A%26M+odds+to+make+march+madness&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyCQgAEEUYORigATIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRigATIHCAUQIRirAtIBCTEyMTE1ajBqOagCALACAQ&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
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Ags will make the Dance. We got jobbed today. Won't matter.

This years team is built for the Tourney. May go deep and may not but the upside is high.
phatty26
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That's what's wrong we never plan for victory and tourney runs. We are getting in with our non conf wins even with a losing record in this league. You can guarantee Texas is getting in with a 7-11 rec and arky.
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phatty26 said:

Yes I understand the better seeding but we are horrible vs fundamentally sound teams. Anything you saw today make you feel confident. Now we know how ou and ole miss feel as we stole those games.


So what would you call Purdue, Tech, Ole Miss, OU, Creighton and sip? Can you be "fundamentally sound" and a bad team? Can you be a great team and not fundamentally sound?

This is a dumb argument. If we are bad against "fundamentally sound" teams (whatever that means), then we won't earn a 3-5 seed. If we do get a 3-5 seed, then you are wrong and we beat a bunch of "fundamentally sound" teams this season.

We are 8th in adjusted defense, Top 50 in defending the 3, Top 40 in defending the 2 and Top 15 in block % (per Bart Torvick.
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TjgtAg08 said:

Umm what? No. If we get a 7-10 aeed it will mean that we played bad over the next 6 weeks and deserve a 7-10 seed.

If we are a 3-5 seed it will mean what you said isn't true and we are an almost great team and deserve the 3-5
Seed.


This team is nowhere close to being a "great team". It's about as good as last years team, which was a 7-10 seed.

We do not blow anybody out consistently, even bad P5 teams. We will finish with a .500 SEC record. That will most likely mean a 7 or 8 seed.
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You can maybe make an argument that there might be a style of play that we don't match up well against, because we aren't in that category of top 8-10 "elite" teams, but the real argument is purely this -

"If we can't shoot better from the FT line, we are going to lose games over the next 6 weeks that we shouldn't and be at risk of losing right away in the tournament."

FTs are why we didn't beat Bama and a part of why we didn't win tonight. Also god awful against LSU but it was at home and they aren't good.
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rgag12 said:

TjgtAg08 said:

Umm what? No. If we get a 7-10 aeed it will mean that we played bad over the next 6 weeks and deserve a 7-10 seed.

If we are a 3-5 seed it will mean what you said isn't true and we are an almost great team and deserve the 3-5
Seed.


This team is nowhere close to being a "great team". It's about as good as last years team, which was a 7-10 seed.

We do not blow anybody out consistently, even bad P5 teams. We will finish with a .500 SEC record. That will most likely mean a 7 or 8 seed.


I mean, that's wrong. 9-9 in the SEC is probably a 5 seed. Also, statistically we are better than last years team in almost every way other than FT shooting.

But FT shooting might cost us.

Edit - but I do agree that a 3-5 seed isn't a "great" team and I don't think we are a "great" team. We are/can be REALLY good. We are a top 15 team easily.
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Unless we have a complete collapse, this is a tourney team based on body of work already in the books.

But seeding? Who knows?. This team is two late game second half wins away from being 2-5 in conference right now. Most of our games will be challenging the rest of the way out.
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rgag12 said:

TjgtAg08 said:

Umm what? No. If we get a 7-10 aeed it will mean that we played bad over the next 6 weeks and deserve a 7-10 seed.

If we are a 3-5 seed it will mean what you said isn't true and we are an almost great team and deserve the 3-5
Seed.


This team is nowhere close to being a "great team". It's about as good as last years team, which was a 7-10 seed.

We do not blow anybody out consistently, even bad P5 teams. We will finish with a .500 SEC record. That will most likely mean a 7 or 8 seed.


We are gonna be better than a 7 seed.
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Getting bad seeding hasn't really worked out for Buzz. Really hoping we can play up to a 3 seed or better to maximize the chance of advancing to second weekend.
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Make the tourney and are out in either Rd of 64 or 32. Poor offense and FT shooting will likely doom them.
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while seeding is important you really don't know until the tourney starts. i have watched enough tournaments to see whole sides of brackets completely implode. i am hoping we get in one of those brackets regardless of seed.

to me this team can beat anyone in the nation but it also can beat itself. it's all about improving and being as hot as possible once the tourney starts. then you have to get a little lucky.
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If we face a great 3-pt shooting team we are in trouble. It's like we make them look like the greatest shooting teams of all time when we let someone get hot. Football has the same problem with decent qb's, they have the game of their lives at Kyle.
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Muy said:

If we face a great 3-pt shooting team we are in trouble.
Top 100 3pt shooting teams we've faced this season:

Texas Tech (16th) : W
Purdue (19th): W
Ohio State (32nd) : W
Texas (35th) : W/L (the shoot 37.3% for the season, shot under that at 26.9% in the game at Reed, shot 40% in Austin.)
Kentucky (48th): L (They shoot 36.9% for the season, shot under that at 33.3% against us)
Oklahoma (50th): W

So that's 6 good-to-great three point shooting teams we've faced this season, we're 5-2 in those games and in the losses we held one of them under their season average.
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phatty26 said:

This team is better suited to play a bigger conference team in 7-10 seed line than be a 3-5 seed.
Hear me out we are so unfundamentally sound that in that seed line you typically get a mid major who is sound fundamentally and can shoot. That is our kryptonite and we'll leave some guy wide open and he'll go off for a career high. Just my thoughts watching this team play ugly ball


We had a7 seed two years ago and got run out of the gym by 10 seed Penn st

You want the best seed possible no matter what

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northeastag said:

Unless we have a complete collapse, this is a tourney team based on body of work already in the books.

But seeding? Who knows?. This team is two late game second half wins away from being 2-5 in conference right now. Most of our games will be challenging the rest of the way out.


And a late second loss away from being 5-2

We ate what our record says we are

I'm predicting 10-8 in the sec for us , which would be a 6-5 finish, which is about right for us

Depending on who the wins and losses are against and where, that could get us anywhere from a 3 to a 6 seed, I think

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I love when stats prove emotional arguments wrong. Not hate, I used to do the same until I realized that my emotions and feel for things is usually wrong.
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phatty26 said:

This team is better suited to play a bigger conference team in 7-10 seed line than be a 3-5 seed.
Hear me out we are so unfundamentally sound that in that seed line you typically get a mid major who is sound fundamentally and can shoot. That is our kryptonite and we'll leave some guy wide open and he'll go off for a career high. Just my thoughts watching this team play ugly ball


Yeah, no. You guys are way overthinking this.

We are a really good team and proven we can beat good teams and bad teams. Give me the worst possible teams for as long as we can in the tournament.
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NyAggie said:

northeastag said:

Unless we have a complete collapse, this is a tourney team based on body of work already in the books.

But seeding? Who knows?. This team is two late game second half wins away from being 2-5 in conference right now. Most of our games will be challenging the rest of the way out.


And a late second loss away from being 5-2

We ate what our record says we are

I'm predicting 10-8 in the sec for us , which would be a 6-5 finish, which is about right for us

Depending on who the wins and losses are against and where, that could get us anywhere from a 3 to a 6 seed, I think
I mean I don't see a world where we're a 6 seed with a 10-8 SEC record considering our non-conference record and current NET.
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PJYoung said:

NyAggie said:

northeastag said:

Unless we have a complete collapse, this is a tourney team based on body of work already in the books.

But seeding? Who knows?. This team is two late game second half wins away from being 2-5 in conference right now. Most of our games will be challenging the rest of the way out.


And a late second loss away from being 5-2

We ate what our record says we are

I'm predicting 10-8 in the sec for us , which would be a 6-5 finish, which is about right for us

Depending on who the wins and losses are against and where, that could get us anywhere from a 3 to a 6 seed, I think
I mean I don't see a world where we're a 6 seed with a 10-8 SEC record considering our non-conference record and current NET.


If we go 10-8 our worst possible seed would probably be a 4. 11 -7 is probably a 3.

Who we beat isn't going to matter too much as they're basically all at worst quad 2 games and I'd guess we've already racked up enough quad 1 wins at this point to support a premium seed.
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t - cam said:

PJYoung said:

NyAggie said:

northeastag said:

Unless we have a complete collapse, this is a tourney team based on body of work already in the books.

But seeding? Who knows?. This team is two late game second half wins away from being 2-5 in conference right now. Most of our games will be challenging the rest of the way out.


And a late second loss away from being 5-2

We ate what our record says we are

I'm predicting 10-8 in the sec for us , which would be a 6-5 finish, which is about right for us

Depending on who the wins and losses are against and where, that could get us anywhere from a 3 to a 6 seed, I think
I mean I don't see a world where we're a 6 seed with a 10-8 SEC record considering our non-conference record and current NET.


If we go 10-8 our worst possible seed would probably be a 4. 11 -7 is probably a 3.

Who we beat isn't going to matter too much as they're basically all at worst quad 2 games and I'd guess we've already racked up enough quad 1 wins at this point to support a premium seed.


I guess that's probably right, but past seeding snubs have me thinking a seed or two lower than what we should be
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ALSO RANS !
NEXT YEAR IS HERE.......again
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NyAggie said:

t - cam said:

PJYoung said:

NyAggie said:

northeastag said:

Unless we have a complete collapse, this is a tourney team based on body of work already in the books.

But seeding? Who knows?. This team is two late game second half wins away from being 2-5 in conference right now. Most of our games will be challenging the rest of the way out.


And a late second loss away from being 5-2

We ate what our record says we are

I'm predicting 10-8 in the sec for us , which would be a 6-5 finish, which is about right for us

Depending on who the wins and losses are against and where, that could get us anywhere from a 3 to a 6 seed, I think
I mean I don't see a world where we're a 6 seed with a 10-8 SEC record considering our non-conference record and current NET.


If we go 10-8 our worst possible seed would probably be a 4. 11 -7 is probably a 3.

Who we beat isn't going to matter too much as they're basically all at worst quad 2 games and I'd guess we've already racked up enough quad 1 wins at this point to support a premium seed.


I guess that's probably right, but past seeding snubs have me thinking a seed or two lower than what we should be
Our OOC resume this season has nothing to do with the past. We have a close to 10/10 OOC resume this season, easily top 10. Combine that with the SEC being historically good (like best since the 2004 ACC good) then it's hard to imagine going 10-8 in conference getting worse than a 4 seed at this point.
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It's going to be interesting, I almost did my first seed watch thread but figured I'd wait one more week so its February.

Right now it's hard to imagine 10-8 being worse than a 4 or 5, and 4 if we win one of the big three games.
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Never was "just win" a better response…
PJYoung
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Andy still has us as a 3 seed currently.

bobinator
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Andy Katz is about as good at bracket predictions as some of the randos that showed up here after we lost to Texas would be.
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Outside of Auburn as the 1, that's a dream bracket
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ProudAggie98 said:

Outside of Auburn as the 1, that's a dream bracket


I mean, at least you'd have some familiarity with them.
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