Can't remember a crowd going from that confident and loud to that quiet and defeated.
*** Game Thread: #13 Texas A&M @ #16 Ole Miss ***
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I get the sentiment of the lack of consistency...another crew, and we might have seen 70 FTs tonight. Not sure I buy the conspiracy, but when we were 7-8, i was thinking, "great, the night we hit FTs we get a crew that is letting everything go in the paint".Kansas Kid said:Before we started intentionally fouling at the end, we had 4 fouls to Ole Miss with 11 and you are saying the refs/SEC were out to get us?ahpetty33 said:
Idk how the SEC can allow crews to have such discrepancies in how they call fouls. These guys tonight just decided "A&M tries to win ugly by shooting free throws, let's call zero fouls all game "
SHUT IT YOUCapCityAg89 said:
This wasn't bad for a team that won't make the tournament.
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the ceiling is the roof. Realistically, it's however far Wade/Zhuric can take us, but as you see tonight, if it's UGLY there is always a chance. Hef, Wilcher and Manny have to feel great after this game. This was a huge confidence builder that an off Wade night won't guarantee a loss.NewArmy12 said:
I am not a basketball guy. What is the ceiling for this team? I saw us whoop on Texas. I saw us sneak by OU. I watched us miss no less than a million FT against Bama. Now this Ole Miss game…not sure to do with this data.
Fquin said:t - cam said:
I love that there's like no posts right now. You guys stay off our basketball board.
Create your own site if you want to dictate who can post on your board. Until then, enjoy this awesome win!!!
I got carried away but I've also watched this team and this sport a bunch and know not to freak out when you are trailing a game and take a some bad shots.
I don't bother with game threads any longer specifically because of fquin.
Fquin said:rlb28 said:Fquin said:BayAg_14 said:
Officially lost a little confidence in this squad.
We have the talent. Buzz just doesn't know how to use it or coach it. That's why we play such ugly basketball.
Foolish
The winning bucket was not a called play by the coach. What I will give him credit for is some brilliant substitutions down the stretch and not calling a timeout to set up the last shot. He just let his players create. That was genius.
Your comment had nothing to do with the winning bucket. It was about Buzz Williams in general. People who say Buzz is not a good coach have no credibility. Every single former coach, analyst and studio host raves about Buzz's coaching. For you to think you know better than them is laughable.
AlwaysNextYear89 said:I get the sentiment of the lack of consistency...another crew, and we might have seen 70 FTs tonight. Not sure I buy the conspiracy, but when we were 7-8, i was thinking, "great, the night we hit FTs we get a crew that is letting everything go in the paint".Kansas Kid said:Before we started intentionally fouling at the end, we had 4 fouls to Ole Miss with 11 and you are saying the refs/SEC were out to get us?ahpetty33 said:
Idk how the SEC can allow crews to have such discrepancies in how they call fouls. These guys tonight just decided "A&M tries to win ugly by shooting free throws, let's call zero fouls all game "
I believe the officiating in this game was due to both teams' reputations as great defensive and rebounding teams. The officials took that into consideration and let them play to their strengths. It was called the same way on both ends.
I think you are right. If this team gets it all together (healthy, mentally, hitting shots), they can play with anyone.linkdude said:the ceiling is the roof. Realistically, it's however far Wade/Zuric can take us, but as you see tonight, if it's UGLY there is always a chance. Hef, Wilcher and Manny have to feel great after this game. This was a huge confidence builder that an off Wade night won't guarantee a loss.NewArmy12 said:
I am not a basketball guy. What is the ceiling for this team? I saw us whoop on Texas. I saw us sneak by OU. I watched us miss no less than a million FT against Bama. Now this Ole Miss game…not sure to do with this data.
AlwaysNextYear89 said:I get the sentiment of the lack of consistency...another crew, and we might have seen 70 FTs tonight. Not sure I buy the conspiracy, but when we were 7-8, i was thinking, "great, the night we hit FTs we get a crew that is letting everything go in the paint".Kansas Kid said:Before we started intentionally fouling at the end, we had 4 fouls to Ole Miss with 11 and you are saying the refs/SEC were out to get us?ahpetty33 said:
Idk how the SEC can allow crews to have such discrepancies in how they call fouls. These guys tonight just decided "A&M tries to win ugly by shooting free throws, let's call zero fouls all game "
Fouls don't have to be even but I didn't think either team benefited at all from the officiating. The over and back was bad and there were some others I thought went their way. Both teams stopped attacking the rim once they realized the fouls weren't coming.
Shut up. 1075 posts since 2016. Go back to wherever you were hiding.
Agree...I only saw the second half, and I was CERTAINLY grateful they let them play the last 13 seconds!Fquin said:AlwaysNextYear89 said:I get the sentiment of the lack of consistency...another crew, and we might have seen 70 FTs tonight. Not sure I buy the conspiracy, but when we were 7-8, i was thinking, "great, the night we hit FTs we get a crew that is letting everything go in the paint".Kansas Kid said:Before we started intentionally fouling at the end, we had 4 fouls to Ole Miss with 11 and you are saying the refs/SEC were out to get us?ahpetty33 said:
Idk how the SEC can allow crews to have such discrepancies in how they call fouls. These guys tonight just decided "A&M tries to win ugly by shooting free throws, let's call zero fouls all game "
I believe the officiating in this game was due to both teams' reputations as great defensive and rebounding teams. The officials took that into consideration and let them play to their strengths. It was called the same way on both ends.
NewArmy12 said:
I am not a basketball guy. What is the ceiling for this team? I saw us whoop on Texas. I saw us sneak by OU. I watched us miss no less than a million FT against Bama. Now this Ole Miss game…not sure to do with this data.
Buzzs' teams are a work in progress until late February/early March. This is a team that loves to play hard by doing all the dirty work that most teams don't want too.
This years team is winning a lot of different ways, and it seems to be one of the most balanced teams we have had in a Long time.
We are not gona be a Pretty team like Bama, or Tennessee. This is an OLD School basketball team that is Built for March Madness. I would NOT want to play us. That's who we are.
Georgia, Ole Miss and South Carolina led for 119:14 of 120 minutes of game time combined tonight.
— Peter Burns (@PeterBurnsESPN) January 23, 2025
They went 0-3.
Unreal
Ags2013 said:Georgia, Ole Miss and South Carolina led for 119:14 of 120 minutes of game time combined tonight.
— Peter Burns (@PeterBurnsESPN) January 23, 2025
They went 0-3.
Unreal
TjgtAg08 said:
Can we go back to arguing about the backcourt rule now?
Manny Obaseki was the X-factor last year in A&M’s two wins over Ole Miss to close the regular season and in the SEC Tournament.
— Luke Evangelist (@lukeevangelist_) January 22, 2025
37 points, 54% from the field, 57% from three, 2 steals, and just 3 turnovers in two games against the Rebels.
A&M could use a breakout game from MO. pic.twitter.com/6f0ywi9G7r
Fquin said:AlwaysNextYear89 said:I get the sentiment of the lack of consistency...another crew, and we might have seen 70 FTs tonight. Not sure I buy the conspiracy, but when we were 7-8, i was thinking, "great, the night we hit FTs we get a crew that is letting everything go in the paint".Kansas Kid said:Before we started intentionally fouling at the end, we had 4 fouls to Ole Miss with 11 and you are saying the refs/SEC were out to get us?ahpetty33 said:
Idk how the SEC can allow crews to have such discrepancies in how they call fouls. These guys tonight just decided "A&M tries to win ugly by shooting free throws, let's call zero fouls all game "
I believe the officiating in this game was due to both teams' reputations as great defensive and rebounding teams. The officials took that into consideration and let them play to their strengths. It was called the same way on both ends.
That's great and all, but a league that doesn't enforce the rules consistently all season and from game to game hurts the league. Players get used to what calls are made and the things they can get away with. When it changes game to game, it forces the players to adjust to refereeing on top of having to adjust to their opponent. And it really hurts in the NCAA tourney when fouls are focused on and games called in a way these guys have never seen.
rlb28 said:Fquin said:rlb28 said:Fquin said:BayAg_14 said:
Officially lost a little confidence in this squad.
We have the talent. Buzz just doesn't know how to use it or coach it. That's why we play such ugly basketball.
Foolish
The winning bucket was not a called play by the coach. What I will give him credit for is some brilliant substitutions down the stretch and not calling a timeout to set up the last shot. He just let his players create. That was genius.
Your comment had nothing to do with the winning bucket. It was about Buzz Williams in general. People who say Buzz is not a good coach have no credibility. Every single former coach, analyst and studio host raves about Buzz's coaching. For you to think you know better than them is laughable.
My opinion of his coaching acumen is nothing more than that. Does he win more than he loses absolutely. I probably should have said his style is sometimes not conducive to coaching his current talent to the ultimate prize. He is definitely an above average defensive and rebounding coach. In all of his stops he has struggled to coach offense. But, I would love him to prove me foolish before his tenure at A&M ends. Even better if it is this season.
You do know officials are NCAA and not league affiliated, right?
Agree
CapCityAg89 said:Ags2013 said:Georgia, Ole Miss and South Carolina led for 119:14 of 120 minutes of game time combined tonight.
— Peter Burns (@PeterBurnsESPN) January 23, 2025
They went 0-3.
Unreal
That's 99.36 percent of the combined game time they all led - and all three lost. That may be the wildest stat I've seen in a long, long time.
Ags bench outscored their starters tonight.
unreal.
unreal.
Aston 91 said:CapCityAg89 said:Ags2013 said:Georgia, Ole Miss and South Carolina led for 119:14 of 120 minutes of game time combined tonight.
— Peter Burns (@PeterBurnsESPN) January 23, 2025
They went 0-3.
Unreal
That's 99.36 percent of the combined game time they all led - and all three lost. That may be the wildest stat I've seen in a long, long time.
The lesson for your kids is play hard until the final horn. It's a cliche for a reason.
Fquin said:rlb28 said:Fquin said:rlb28 said:Fquin said:BayAg_14 said:
Officially lost a little confidence in this squad.
We have the talent. Buzz just doesn't know how to use it or coach it. That's why we play such ugly basketball.
Foolish
The winning bucket was not a called play by the coach. What I will give him credit for is some brilliant substitutions down the stretch and not calling a timeout to set up the last shot. He just let his players create. That was genius.
Your comment had nothing to do with the winning bucket. It was about Buzz Williams in general. People who say Buzz is not a good coach have no credibility. Every single former coach, analyst and studio host raves about Buzz's coaching. For you to think you know better than them is laughable.
My opinion of his coaching acumen is nothing more than that. Does he win more than he loses absolutely. I probably should have said his style is sometimes not conducive to coaching his current talent to the ultimate prize. He is definitely an above average defensive and rebounding coach. In all of his stops he has struggled to coach offense. But, I would love him to prove me foolish before his tenure at A&M ends. Even better if it is this season.
Buzz coaches basketball the same way Dan Campbell coaches football. Attitude and effort and it works most of the time. There may be some gaps in the X's and O's but his dudes show up.
How often does your bench outscore your starters (33-30) in a game you WIN
Fquin said:rlb28 said:Fquin said:BayAg_14 said:
Officially lost a little confidence in this squad.
We have the talent. Buzz just doesn't know how to use it or coach it. That's why we play such ugly basketball.
Foolish
The winning bucket was not a called play by the coach. What I will give him credit for is some brilliant substitutions down the stretch and not calling a timeout to set up the last shot. He just let his players create. That was genius.
Dude has more wins against ranked teams on the road in his 6 years here than the A&M program had in the preceeding 37 years but please continue telling us how terrible he is at coaching.
Fquin said:rlb28 said:Fquin said:rlb28 said:Fquin said:BayAg_14 said:
Officially lost a little confidence in this squad.
We have the talent. Buzz just doesn't know how to use it or coach it. That's why we play such ugly basketball.
Foolish
The winning bucket was not a called play by the coach. What I will give him credit for is some brilliant substitutions down the stretch and not calling a timeout to set up the last shot. He just let his players create. That was genius.
Your comment had nothing to do with the winning bucket. It was about Buzz Williams in general. People who say Buzz is not a good coach have no credibility. Every single former coach, analyst and studio host raves about Buzz's coaching. For you to think you know better than them is laughable.
My opinion of his coaching acumen is nothing more than that. Does he win more than he loses absolutely. I probably should have said his style is sometimes not conducive to coaching his current talent to the ultimate prize. He is definitely an above average defensive and rebounding coach. In all of his stops he has struggled to coach offense. But, I would love him to prove me foolish before his tenure at A&M ends. Even better if it is this season.
The ugly basketball is a feature of the system, not a bug. You seem to think he's taking elite talent and hindering their abilities as offensive playmakers. The truth is that he's taking good talent and using a style of play that can beat elite talent. We will never consistently bring elite players to A&M.
txag72 said:
Shut up. 1075 posts since 2016. Go back to wherever you were hiding.
Do comments like this ever accomplish anything? Or does it just make you feel better making them? Either way I feel like you would just feel better concentrating on an amazing victory on the road against a ranked team. Gig'em!
we are so back! Had to crack open a beer to celebrate!johnnyblaze36 said:We did it buddy.BraxtonW said:johnnyblaze36 said:You switch to Woodford while I switch from bourbon to beer. The rest of the board will thank us later.BraxtonW said:
Switch to Woodford bourbon for good luck or stay with beer?
Sounds good, let's experiment
Learned something. I figured with 2 games a week, they probably stuck with the same conference, but I guess it's possible some of these guys are calling 4-5 a week? Anyone know an NCAA basketball official?CapCityAg89 said:
You do know officials are NCAA and not league affiliated, right?
Detective Jake Peralta said:
What a win when NOTHING is going your way. This team!
Thank goodness Lance. The wife and I were getting worried
Blindside05 said:
I never doubted you manny
Many "experts "did. Just win baby. This is a special team.
Hillary paid for warrant to spy on Trump.
Scotts Tot said:Fquin said:rlb28 said:Fquin said:rlb28 said:Fquin said:BayAg_14 said:
Officially lost a little confidence in this squad.
We have the talent. Buzz just doesn't know how to use it or coach it. That's why we play such ugly basketball.
Foolish
The winning bucket was not a called play by the coach. What I will give him credit for is some brilliant substitutions down the stretch and not calling a timeout to set up the last shot. He just let his players create. That was genius.
Your comment had nothing to do with the winning bucket. It was about Buzz Williams in general. People who say Buzz is not a good coach have no credibility. Every single former coach, analyst and studio host raves about Buzz's coaching. For you to think you know better than them is laughable.
My opinion of his coaching acumen is nothing more than that. Does he win more than he loses absolutely. I probably should have said his style is sometimes not conducive to coaching his current talent to the ultimate prize. He is definitely an above average defensive and rebounding coach. In all of his stops he has struggled to coach offense. But, I would love him to prove me foolish before his tenure at A&M ends. Even better if it is this season.
The ugly basketball is a feature of the system, not a bug. You seem to think he's taking elite talent and hindering their abilities as offensive playmakers. The truth is that he's taking good talent and using a style of play that can beat elite talent. We will never consistently bring elite players to A&M.
We have had coaches who previously brought superior talent to A&M. What is it about Buzz that can't bring elite talent to A&M. Just actually curious as to your opinion.
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