ARK has 3 5* kids committed. What do they have that we don't?

Ala has 2...

MarcAg said:

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Leonard H. Stringfield said:

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ARK has 3 5* kids committed. What do they have that we don't?

Ala has 2...

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What does Arkansas basketball have that A&M basketball doesn't? How much time do you got? It's a long ****ing list.

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Let's hear it? Ark and bama..

Solid job.

The answer is a solid "B"

Is he nuts or a troll?

I will absolutely do no such thing.

Definitely would not give Buzz a B+. Personally think it is a C-.

I am frustrated in Buzz's ability to recruit to be honest. Hard to believe we dont have a decent NIL fund available to Buzz. To me, and I dont follow hoops recruiting nearly as closely as football, Buzz can't seem to land the big name players that would propel his teams to the next level.

I am just off?

I love Buzz but unless something changes within recruiting, I feel his days are limited and what we see as as good as it will get.

dcg4403 said:

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Definitely would not give Buzz a B+. Personally think it is a C-.

I am frustrated in Buzz's ability to recruit to be honest. Hard to believe we dont have a decent NIL fund available to Buzz. To me, and I dont follow hoops recruiting nearly as closely as football, Buzz can't seem to land the big name players that would propel his teams to the next level.

I am just off?

I love Buzz but unless something changes within recruiting, I feel his days are limited and what we see as as good as it will get.

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I'd like to believe what we are seeing is Buzz acclimating to the new recruiting landscape. 'Big name' basketball recruits only get you so far (re: Calipari) in the current state of NCAA basketball. HS recruiting will never be unimportant, but the portal is clearly yielding more of a delta for teams in need of production than the incoming HS players.

How he develops and utilizes these guys will be the real story...

I think it's important to note that it's not just NIL. We've never consistently recruited at a high level in hoops. We've put together a few legit good classes and occasionally we'll land a truly high profile guy, but we never have recruited like the elite programs. We're not just suddenly going to start now.

But yeah, like others are pointing out, that's okay. There's a lot of ways to put a good team on the floor in hoops, and I really like this group that Buzz has put together for next year so far. We've brought in guys that can replace Boots' production and improve our backcourt depth and flexibility and a big man that's light year's better offensively than anyone we had last year. And the two high school pieces look promising, but we should have the depth that we're not relying on them to be contributors right away.

The problem with Buzz's recruiting was last year. We did not bring in pieces better than we lost and then add the Marble loss on top of that and last year's roster wasn't where it needed to be. Still pretty good and we had a good season, but could have been better.

NIL money was just cheating money before NIL. It's the same pool imo and that's why we didn't kill it in recruiting. You need a snake oil salesman to get donors going.

Method Man said:

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NIL money was just cheating money before NIL. It's the same pool imo and that's why we didn't kill it in recruiting. You need a snake oil salesman to get donors going.

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I disagree with this a bit. It might be the same pool for us, but I don't think it's the same pool for many schools.

I know what you are trying to say is that people have always been paid and the schools that paid the most illegally, are mostly the ones paying the most legally now. But I think it's a little different and not the same pool. Before it was a very small group of people pitching in. Now with it being legal you have more donors pitching in. Many probably had no clue before how to pitch in illegally if they even wanted to help us get players. And they probably were like; "Buddy your $2,000 isn't going to help us". But now you get 500 people giving $2,000 plus the guys who were always pitching in before then things change. And I'm just giving examples, I'm not saying we can find 500 Aggies to pitch in $2,000 for basketball on top of the big time donors.

Is the class indicative of a program aspiring to win championships?

Method Man said:

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Arkansas has a fat better history
Arkansas has a 5 million dollar NIL
Arkansas has a head coach who has a proven track record of getting kids into the NBA and can point to multiple high level players doing well in the league

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See it wasn't all that difficult. Thanks for spelling it out. Appreciate it. Don't know why a simple question resulted in so much angst. I knew their program may have had a more glamorous past....the triplets etc. but was unaware of the other points.

Leonard H. Stringfield said:

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Is the class indicative of a program aspiring to win championships?

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Every programs is aspirating to win championships and trying to get the best players they feel can help them win it. It might not be realistic for most, but they are aspiring to do it. Nobody is aspiring to be middle of the road.

AgEfan said:

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Leonard H. Stringfield said:

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Is the class indicative of a program aspiring to win championships?

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Every programs is aspirating to win championships and trying to get the best players they feel can help them win it. It might not be realistic for most, but they are aspiring to do it. Nobody is aspiring to be middle of the road.

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Aspirating?????

Method Man said:

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Leonard H. Stringfield said:

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Is the class indicative of a program aspiring to win championships?

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Absolutely reasonable question. Why isn't a school with very few big donors and relatively few fans that care about the sport striving for championships!?!

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How does the ath dept navigate this when the clear goal is to win championships? What is the plan?

Complete Idiot said:

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AgEfan said:

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Leonard H. Stringfield said:

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Is the class indicative of a program aspiring to win championships?

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Every programs is aspirating to win championships and trying to get the best players they feel can help them win it. It might not be realistic for most, but they are aspiring to do it. Nobody is aspiring to be middle of the road.

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Aspirating?????

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I'm getting old and my phone hates me. I think I fat finger things and as a result probably not close to spelling real words and so my phone is just guessing to try to keep up and I'm too lazy and blind to check what it's changed words too.

That's a detailed breakdown of the portal haul! It's great to see your analysis and thoughts on Payne, Phelps, and Wilcher. It sounds like you're optimistic about the new additions to the team. Exciting times ahead for Aggie basketball!

I think it's a solid B, mainly because Phelps is just a 1-year rental and we're gearing up for so much turnover next year.

Aside from that, Payne and especially Phelps should be in contention to start right away, so it'll be interesting to see how Buzz manages the minutes. Wade is a given, but Manny/Solo/Andy all proved they deserve starter runs down the stretch, so who do you bring off the bench? My prediction would be Wade-Phelps-Manny-Solo-Andy and we run a small ball focus. I just don't see how you can't start the best rebounder in the sport, but I suppose that's what camp is for.

If Mills is able to contribute early, all the better.

Leonard H. Stringfield said:

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ARK has 3 5* kids committed. What do they have that we don't?
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Calipari who is the college recruiting GOAT and a big time basketball fan base.

Pumpkinhead said:

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Leonard H. Stringfield said:

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Method Man said:

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Leonard H. Stringfield said:

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Is the class indicative of a program aspiring to win championships?

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Absolutely reasonable question. Why isn't a school with very few big donors and relatively few fans that care about the sport striving for championships!?!

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How does the ath dept navigate this when the clear goal is to win championships? What is the plan?

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It seems likely that we will make the NCAAT for a third straight season next year.

Is making the NCAA Tournament every year now considered a failed program state by some fans here?

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The stated goals of the athletic dept is the win championships. I'd like to see that.