"Cheating on an exam"?

There was a time my upperclassmen loved to study with friends at Cain Hall The "study materials" the jocks got were usually quite similar to the next day's exam……..

Hop just confirmed it is a Title IX issue in the game thread.

That is what most of us figured...

Unfortunately, that's what I heard as well back at the beginning of the month. I understand he's not been seen in the basketball facilities for quite a while now.

NM found it

aggiez03 said:

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Hop just confirmed it is a Title IX issue in the game thread.

That is what most of us figured...

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What's an example of a "Title IX" issue? Haven't a clue as to what that might mean

agent-maroon said:

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aggiez03 said:

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Hop just confirmed it is a Title IX issue in the game thread.

That is what most of us figured...

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What's an example of a "Title IX" issue? Haven't a clue as to what that might mean

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A female making an accusation.

But noteworthy not one that is serious enough to go to the police.

agent-maroon said:

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aggiez03 said:

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Hop just confirmed it is a Title IX issue in the game thread.

That is what most of us figured...

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What's an example of a "Title IX" issue? Haven't a clue as to what that might mean

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An accusation of stalking, domestic abuse, or sexual assault of a Texas A&M student, investigated by the Title IX office

Thank you.

Just a reminder...

Innocent until proven guilty does not happen in Title IX investigations.

And there is almost no due process and no right to a speed resolution.

aggiez03 said:

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Just a reminder...

Innocent until proven guilty does not happen in Title IX investigations.

And there is almost no due process and no right to a speed resolution.

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its a total kangaroo court, I don't see how it's legal honestly

Unless you have known the girl from childhood or know her family, it's just not safe out there anymore. Hopefully it's not too serious. But yeah, forget about this. Not worth worrying about.

Its technically not, which is why we are seeing more and more lawsuits won against schools after the proceedings end, especially when it pertains to wrongfully accused or issues of consent.

IMO, what Title IX has become is starting to have the opposite affect of what it actually was set out to do -- protect people from sexual discimination/assault when they may be otherwise not inclined to come forward about it (either due to fear or lack of faith in getting justice).

The process has swung SO WILDLY in favor of the person filing the complaint, that there is public outcry against that person after the results and accusations of making stuff up or changing her/his mind after a consensual act, even if that is not the case. The purpose of proper legal procedure and rights/protections for the accused is to not only protect them, but also protect the complainant. Thats not happening AT ALL with current Title IX cases.

I don't recall at what level (heard about it on the Advisory Opinions pod), but a case where a guy sued an accuser was upheld by either the Supreme Court or a Top-level circuit court. You cannot sue someone who presses legal charges, but, as you said, these are not legal charges...

can I litigate in Kangaroo Court if I went to Clown College?

Ol Jock 99 said:

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I don't recall at what level (heard about it on the Advisory Opinions pod), but a case where a guy sued an accuser was upheld by either the Supreme Court or a Top-level circuit court. You cannot sue someone who presses legal charges, but, as you said, these are not legal charges...

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Yeah, it's not the accuser that's being sued in this case, it's the institutions because they are violating so many constitutional rights of an accused, include due process, right to a speedy trial, evidence rights, rights to representation, etc.

This **** needs to be handled by the cops and the legal system. And not just to protect the rights of the accused (which is very important). Also because we are talking about serious crimes. A person committing such crimes is a danger to society.

amercer said:

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This **** needs to be handled by the cops and the legal system. And not just to protect the rights of the accused (which is very important). Also because we are talking about serious crimes. A person committing such crimes is a danger to society.

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You have ZERO clue what actually happened here so I suggest calming the **** down, Columbo.

Your reading comprehension.

It's very bad.

We stoped talking about our player a while ago on this thread, and turned to how the title IX process is messed up. That is all.

aggiez03 said:

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Hop just confirmed it is a Title IX issue in the game thread.

That is what most of us figured...

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Hop clarified today he actually does not know it's a Title IX issue.

Proposition Joe said:

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aggiez03 said:

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Hop just confirmed it is a Title IX issue in the game thread.

That is what most of us figured...

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Hop clarified today he actually does not know it's a Title IX issue.

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Saw that, but I am not sure if that is true that he doesn't know, or he got is hand slapped. Wouldn't be the first time...

I would be shocked if it is not Title IX.

You can't tell me there has never been an athlete that cheated on a test and got caught. I have been on this website close to 20 years and I don't remember one ever. Even if it has happened, athletes would not miss 1/3 of the season for it.

Title IX is really the only logical explanation.

I agree I've said female/title-ix from the get-go which is why so hush hush, just pointing out that it was never actually "confirmed".

B-1 83 said:

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"Cheating on an exam"?

There was a time my upperclassmen loved to study with friends at Cain Hall The "study materials" the jocks got were usually quite similar to the next day's exam……..

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Previous tests were collected by most dorms…and the student service system and 101/102 chemistry program encouraged reviewing those.

I'm not sure that you are being specific enough on how close???

aggiez03 said:

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Proposition Joe said:

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aggiez03 said:

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Hop just confirmed it is a Title IX issue in the game thread.

That is what most of us figured...

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Hop clarified today he actually does not know it's a Title IX issue.

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Saw that, but I am not sure if that is true that he doesn't know, or he got is hand slapped. Wouldn't be the first time...

I would be shocked if it is not Title IX.

You can't tell me there has never been an athlete that cheated on a test and got caught. I have been on this website close to 20 years and I don't remember one ever. Even if it has happened, athletes would not miss 1/3 of the season for it.

Title IX is really the only logical explanation.

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Can you enlighten me on the bolded comment? I thought A&M had an Honor Code. How does violating that Honor Code NOT result in expulsion from the institution? My alma mater has an HC, very simple, "A Gentleman does not lie, cheat or steal." Of course since amended since going co-ed, but that's it. And if you violate it, you are given the option of withdrawal or dispute the claim and have a hearing, upon which if still guilty, expulsion.

carl spacklers hat said:

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aggiez03 said:

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Proposition Joe said:

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aggiez03 said:

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Hop just confirmed it is a Title IX issue in the game thread.

That is what most of us figured...

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Hop clarified today he actually does not know it's a Title IX issue.

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Saw that, but I am not sure if that is true that he doesn't know, or he got is hand slapped. Wouldn't be the first time...

I would be shocked if it is not Title IX.

You can't tell me there has never been an athlete that cheated on a test and got caught. I have been on this website close to 20 years and I don't remember one ever. Even if it has happened, athletes would not miss 1/3 of the season for it.

Title IX is really the only logical explanation.

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Can you enlighten me on the bolded comment? I thought A&M had an Honor Code. How does violating that Honor Code NOT result in expulsion from the institution? My alma mater has an HC, very simple, "A Gentleman does not lie, cheat or steal." Of course since amended since going co-ed, but that's it. And if you violate it, you are given the option of withdrawal or dispute the claim and have a hearing, upon which if still guilty, expulsion.

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Expulsion is an option, but there are varying levels of consequence. Most common one I've seen is a student receiving an F* on their transcript where the * represents they failed because of an honor code violation. So it lets any potential future employer or grad school who looks at the transcript that something happened. You can read more about all the consequence options here:

https://aggiehonor.tamu.edu/rules-and-procedures/rules/sanctions/#sanctions

I always assumed this was one of those things that basically every major university had but we acted like it was unique to us?

aggiez03 said:

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Proposition Joe said:

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aggiez03 said:

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Hop just confirmed it is a Title IX issue in the game thread.

That is what most of us figured...

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Hop clarified today he actually does not know it's a Title IX issue.

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Saw that, but I am not sure if that is true that he doesn't know, or he got is hand slapped. Wouldn't be the first time...

I would be shocked if it is not Title IX.

You can't tell me there has never been an athlete that cheated on a test and got caught. I have been on this website close to 20 years and I don't remember one ever. Even if it has happened, athletes would not miss 1/3 of the season for it.

Title IX is really the only logical explanation.

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Played on a 1982 summer league baseball team with quite few of the Ag players and one of my buddies called me to Cain one night because they had a previous semester scantron from a Health class and that he gave the same tests each semester. About 15 athletes went into the test the next day with their scantrons already marked. Seven or eight got caught because they copied the answers, including the wrong ones, exactly the same. They were given a chance to redo the exam orally or be suspended.

PS- The scantron was that of a future NFL player that shall not be named.

I told him that retaking the Kobayashi Maru test was a no-win scenario.

Much more interested in availability of Radford and Jace right now, particularly by Memphis game. Coleman and Washington's elevated play has seemed to significantly mitigate not having Marble. But particularly Radford we really need him as a second guard to take the heat off Wade.

I thought I read somewhere that Boots was good to go for DePaul. He was scratched against Virginia as a precautionary measure. Not sure about Jace though

GrayMatter said:

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I thought I read somewhere that Boots was good to go for DePaul. He was scratched against Virginia as a precautionary measure. Not sure about Jace though

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Excellent News RE Boots

I haven't read that, but hope it's true.

greg.w.h said:

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That's unfortunate. He will have discipline and a work off plan. Again if he's back after semester is over that's fine.

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Accomplice to a murder next time...

(too dark?)

carl spacklers hat said:

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aggiez03 said:

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Proposition Joe said:

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aggiez03 said:

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Hop just confirmed it is a Title IX issue in the game thread.

That is what most of us figured...

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Hop clarified today he actually does not know it's a Title IX issue.

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Saw that, but I am not sure if that is true that he doesn't know, or he got is hand slapped. Wouldn't be the first time...

I would be shocked if it is not Title IX.

You can't tell me there has never been an athlete that cheated on a test and got caught. I have been on this website close to 20 years and I don't remember one ever. Even if it has happened, athletes would not miss 1/3 of the season for it.

Title IX is really the only logical explanation.

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Can you enlighten me on the bolded comment? I thought A&M had an Honor Code. How does violating that Honor Code NOT result in expulsion from the institution? My alma mater has an HC, very simple, "A Gentleman does not lie, cheat or steal." Of course since amended since going co-ed, but that's it. And if you violate it, you are given the option of withdrawal or dispute the claim and have a hearing, upon which if still guilty, expulsion.

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For example, person X could receive an F* from the class. If they remain academically eligible, technically they could play next semester, take the class over, and take some canned package academic integrity class.

Expulsion for a first offense I don't think is common.