Mark Adams is done at Tceh

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Rodney Ruxin
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MooreTrucker said:

Rodney Ruxin said:

Jesus Christ, for THAT??? We really have left the reservation. This is ****oo for coco puffs world stuff.


No not for that. That's just cover for the real reasons.

I haven't read the whole thread and I'm a couple bourbons deep, what is the real reason?
MooreTrucker
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Rodney Ruxin said:

MooreTrucker said:

Rodney Ruxin said:

Jesus Christ, for THAT??? We really have left the reservation. This is ****oo for coco puffs world stuff.


No not for that. That's just cover for the real reasons.

I haven't read the whole thread and I'm a couple bourbons deep, what is the real reason?
Pissing off a big donor and having most if not all of his team turn against him. There's other stuff but it's peripheral.
Faustus
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TXAggie2011 said:

91AggieLawyer said:

TXAggie2011 said:

CactusThomas said:

Crazy how they have this ****** bag who cheats on his wife with his brother's widow and spits on his players but they're cool with that.

They suspend him for quoting the Bible and claim that its racist.
I'm not sure they were cool with the rest. But obviously this crossed their line.

You're an idiot if you think you can talk about slaves obeying their master and all will be well with your team that's almost entirely Black. I don't care if it's from the Bible. That's just stupid.

And from what has been reported, he didn't even try to acknowledge why that might have been problematic. He just dug in his heels.

It may or may not have been stupid, but it almost certainly isn't a violation of his contract. At least not the player incident. Since it wasn't a criminal accusation, the suspension, in my opinion, likely wasn't appropriate.

With that said, I haven't read the contract so I won't comment about the whole sister-in-law thing with respect to any morality or moral turpitude clause (the alleged incident may still be unsubstantiated anyway). However, I'd be surprised if that would trigger anything either, especially if he could show tech ignoring similar incidents in the past on other coaches -- and I'm sure he knows where some bodies are buried.

I have no doubt that they reached a financial settlement.
Adams' contract (https://247sports.com/college/texas-tech/Gallery/Texas-Tech-basketball-Mark-Adams-Red-Raiders-head-coach-contract-164542167/) like most these days, has a broad section about supporting athletes, not doing anything to harm reputations or bring embarrassment, upholding social mores, etc., etc., etc. and, like most contracts, explicitly says it doesn't matter if something is criminal or not.

I'm pretty sure he stepped down after coming to some financial agreement. As I'm sure you know as an attorney, that does not mean the suspension wasn't warranted or that Tech could not have straight up fired him with cause.


My point wasn't whether he violated the contract or not, just that he was an idiot if he thought he wasn't inviting trouble


Going forward Tech will insist on a no slave reference clause for the coaches. Live and learn.
t - cam
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Faustus said:

TXAggie2011 said:

91AggieLawyer said:

TXAggie2011 said:

CactusThomas said:

Crazy how they have this ****** bag who cheats on his wife with his brother's widow and spits on his players but they're cool with that.

They suspend him for quoting the Bible and claim that its racist.
I'm not sure they were cool with the rest. But obviously this crossed their line.

You're an idiot if you think you can talk about slaves obeying their master and all will be well with your team that's almost entirely Black. I don't care if it's from the Bible. That's just stupid.

And from what has been reported, he didn't even try to acknowledge why that might have been problematic. He just dug in his heels.

It may or may not have been stupid, but it almost certainly isn't a violation of his contract. At least not the player incident. Since it wasn't a criminal accusation, the suspension, in my opinion, likely wasn't appropriate.

With that said, I haven't read the contract so I won't comment about the whole sister-in-law thing with respect to any morality or moral turpitude clause (the alleged incident may still be unsubstantiated anyway). However, I'd be surprised if that would trigger anything either, especially if he could show tech ignoring similar incidents in the past on other coaches -- and I'm sure he knows where some bodies are buried.

I have no doubt that they reached a financial settlement.
Adams' contract (https://247sports.com/college/texas-tech/Gallery/Texas-Tech-basketball-Mark-Adams-Red-Raiders-head-coach-contract-164542167/) like most these days, has a broad section about supporting athletes, not doing anything to harm reputations or bring embarrassment, upholding social mores, etc., etc., etc. and, like most contracts, explicitly says it doesn't matter if something is criminal or not.

I'm pretty sure he stepped down after coming to some financial agreement. As I'm sure you know as an attorney, that does not mean the suspension wasn't warranted or that Tech could not have straight up fired him with cause.


My point wasn't whether he violated the contract or not, just that he was an idiot if he thought he wasn't inviting trouble


Going forward Tech will insist on a no slave reference clause for the coaches. Live and learn.


That had very little to do with his firing.
Faustus
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He would have been back next year but for it.
t - cam
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Faustus said:

He would have been back next year but for it.


He was gone regardless.
Faustus
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I don't think they were going to eat the $7 million to fire him a year after extending him and reaching the sweet 16 even though they might have wanted to. That is until this incident allowed them to suspend him and negotiate his buyout.
t - cam
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Faustus said:

I don't think they were going to eat the $7 million to fire him a year after extending him and reaching the sweet 16 even though they might have wanted to. That is until this incident allowed them to suspend him and negotiate his buyout.


I don't think you understand how badly he pissed off the alumni. They decided to see if he could turn it around but their mind was basically made up.
Faustus
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The fans and alumni might have been disappointed given the success last year, but he was not close to being fired.

Adams went to the Sweet 16 and was given an extension after his first season. You don't fire the coach for winning five games in conference in his second season (first with the extension and the full buyout) unless he gives you an out, which Adams did.

I don't care for the guy or Tech, but he was coming back for the second season of his extension next year. The AD is like a GM, and you don't cut first round draft picks after a year absent extracurricular stuff because it reflects poorly on you.
 
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