Brandon Miller

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LawHall88
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MarcAg
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WOW

This will be an investigation is ongoing and he won't be suspended until a full investigation has been completed. That will be once he is done at Alabama and it wont matter. Just my guess on how it goes down
txag72
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Kinda depends on whether the gun was legal and what the text said.
Serious Lee
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yea, nothing will probly happen til pre-draft...but nate oats should be sweatin bullets til then
JasonPoston
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Crazy that he hasn't been suspended yet… Johnny even got suspended for signing autographs. Miller provided a murder weapon yet *crickets*

Insane what the NCAA allows certain programs to get away with

Also at a certain point doing the right thing has to be more important than winning… DJ Hogg got suspended for smoking weed or something of the sort. Insane that Miller has yet to be suspended. If he was a bench warmer he wouldn't even still be on the team.
MarcAg
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txag72 said:

Kinda depends on whether the gun was legal and what the text said.


He clearly brought it to him knowing he might use it for something as he let him know it was loaded and one was already in the chamber.
Method Man
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Let's let Bama show us how to handle these things. Maybe Nick Saban can get involved
taylorswift13
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accessory to murder
taylorswift13
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He saw Dexter Dennis play defense and wants to get out of the game so it doesn't impact his draft stock
Topher17
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So it sounds like the gun belonged to Miles and Miller brought it to him, who then gave it to the person who fired the shots?

If so, sounds like Miller is extremely lucky that Miles was a go between and he can claim he didn't know the intent for bringing the gun. What a stupid stupid situation to put yourself in, but especially when you have literally everything in the world to lose.
AggieGreg06
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If Bama doesn't do the right thing and suspend him, I hope the Reed Rowdies give him hell for this. It's well deserved.
greg.w.h
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Terrible. Not sure what if scenarios are appropriate though.
BCG Disciple
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I'm doing my best to summarize the altercation for those too lazy to click through and cobble the story together. The guy literally drove the loaded piece up to his friend, blocked the victim's car from escaping, and his bro went to work.

Summary:

Miller dropped Miles (charged with murder) off at the club but did not stay because the line was too long. Miles went to club with "Buzz" Davis (charged with murder).

After leaving the club, Harris (Victim), her boyfriend, Cedric Johnson, and her first cousin, Asia Humphrey, stopped at a nearby grill to get something to eat.

It was then they encountered Davis, who was dancing in front Harris's Jeep. Johnson told Davis that his girlfriend was not interested and to move along. "It got a little elevated,'' the detective testified.

Miles and Davis walked away from the victim's Jeep. Miles texted Miller and asked him to bring his gun to where they were. Miller drove up and was were blocking the road where Harris' Jeep was parked. When Miller got to the scene, Miles told Davis, "The heat is in the hat" and "There's one in the head." Meaning, the gun was in a hat and that there was 1 in the chamber. Miles and Davis walked to Miller's car and got something - believed to be the gun - out of the back seat.

Moments later, Davis began firing through the driver's side window of the Jeep.
Onionman
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Topher17 said:

So it sounds like the gun belonged to Miles and Miller brought it to him, who then gave it to the person who fired the shots?

If so, sounds like Miller is extremely lucky that Miles was a go between and he can claim he didn't know the intent for bringing the gun. What a stupid stupid situation to put yourself in, but especially when you have literally everything in the world to lose.
Not to mention that someone actually lost their life!

Let's see how this plays out in court but it does not sound good.
taylorswift13
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taylorswift13
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BohunkAg
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fightintxag13
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What a terrible, out of touch response by Oats.
Topher17
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I'm still actually surprised he wasn't or hasn't been suspended for at least some length of time.

And if you're Nate Oats, this is why people say "I'm not going to comment on an ongoing investigation," rather than "wrong place, wrong time" knowing your player drove a gun to an intoxicated teammate after 1:00am. That statement is very tone deaf of him and he deserves criticism.
taylorswift13
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i say take away 4 conference wins from them
fatdad84ag
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New Mexico State - part 2
taylorswift13
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Does Lunardi or the NET factor in "murder accomplices" into their rankings
taylorswift13
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fatdad84ag said:

New Mexico State - part 2
As John Taffer would say, SHUT IT DOWN
frenchtoast
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HoseMad said:

yea, nothing will probly happen til pre-draft...but nate oats should be sweatin bullets til then
Underrated
taylorswift13
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The fact is the team knew about this and did nothing, it was only until now that this got to the media. This is Brandon Miller, top 4 pick in the draft and the guy who they hope will take them far in the dance. Bama knew and did nothing, and they won't do anything due to his name, despicable and i hope we give them hell March 4th...
taylorswift13
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Can anyone see Miller trying to save face and just excuses himself from the team so it won't impact his draft stock as much?
Know Your Enemy
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Lol no
taylorswift13
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What's more important to him, winning a couple games in March or protecting his chance at a 7 figure contract and being a top 5 pick, also this is me just hoping he doesn't play against us
EliteZags
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OJ Simpson was also in the wrong place at the wrong time

We essentially kicked multiple five stars off the football team for vaping in the locker room, and suspended one for wearing arm sleeves
Kampfers
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EliteZags said:

We essentially kicked multiple five stars off the football team for gaping in the locker room, and suspended one for wearing arm sleeves
They were WHAT
frenchtoast
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EliteZags said:

OJ Simpson was also in the wrong place at the wrong time

We essentially kicked multiple five stars off the football team for gaping in the locker room, and suspended one for wearing arm sleeves
Know Your Enemy
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taylorswift13 said:

What's more important to him, winning a couple games in March or protecting his chance at a 7 figure contract and being a top 5 pick, also this is me just hoping he doesn't play against us

The news is already out there. What does not playing now do to reverse that? Besides, they have a legitimate shot at a national championship.
AgsGiveUsRoom
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He was asked to deliver a gun to the scene and said gun was used in a capital murder. How is this a non-issue for the police, Miller, Oats and Bama?
Kampfers
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AgsGiveUsRoom said:

He was asked to deliver a gun to the scene and said gun was used in a capital murder. How is this a non-issue for the police, Miller, Oats and Bama?
The facts and the law make it a really difficult case to charge Miller with anything. That certainly doesn't mean what he did was acceptable, and Oats' statements are frankly embarrassing and just about the worst things he could have said. Hopefully the university steps in because there is a difference between proving a legal case and generally acceptable conduct.

FWIW he wouldn't be charged as an "accessory" unless he had knowledge of the murder prior to the fact. He would likely fall under the accomplice laws in Alabama. I don't practice criminal law and certainly not in Alabama, but here is the relevant statute

Quote:

13A-2-23. Criminal liability based upon behavior of another -- Complicity.
A person is legally accountable for the behavior of another constituting a criminal offense if, with the intent to promote or assist the commission of the offense:
  • (1) He procures, induces or causes such other person to commit the offense; or
  • (2) He aids or abets such other person in committing the offense; or
  • (3) Having a legal duty to prevent the commission of the offense, he fails to make an effort he is legally required to make.

The hard part to prove is "intent to promote or assist the commission of the offense".

Miles asks Miller for the gun. Miller provides the gun. Miles gives the gun to Davis. Davis pulls the trigger.

As has been mentioned, the third person's involvement adds an additional level of difficulty to proving this, in no small part because that third person was the one who actually committed the offense and Miller did not directly provide the gun to him.
BohunkAg
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Kampfers said:

EliteZags said:

We essentially kicked multiple five stars off the football team for gaping in the locker room, and suspended one for wearing arm sleeves
They were WHAT
I didn't know it was that bad.
 
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