I'm saying we don't use a PG.
Diarra in the portal
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So, primary ball handler in the position-less system? Just something Radford, Gordon, Taylor, and Hefner share?
Oh wow I didn't expect this. But I doubt next year we will be like, "If only we had Diarra".
I don't think we have a primary ball handler if they stick with what they have been doing. They have interchangeable parts and they put them where they want on the court based off the matchup and what is going to give them the advantage. So guys like Manny, Taylor, Boots, and Pratty will be guys that initiate the offense just depending on the matchups. I expect we will have another guard coming on board too. Gordon has to improve a ton for me to want to see him out there except for maybe situational things if he gets his defense back on track. I still am not going to be shocked if Gordon leaves.Gap said:
So, primary ball handler in the position-less system?
I'd much rather add a 6'5 guard who lights it up and who is a good ball handler instead of what people deem as a PG.
FLAGGEDMethod Man said:
This is explosive news.
Everyone still gets hung up on positions. What you need are skills that you can mix and match.
Ballhandling, shooting, and guarding the ball are skills we need more of. We don't necessarily need a guy that's good at all of them though.
Ballhandling, shooting, and guarding the ball are skills we need more of. We don't necessarily need a guy that's good at all of them though.
Thanks for taking the time to explain. And I definitely agree with your summary in the final sentence. Instead of a "point guard", a longer guy that is a plus ball handler would be ideal.MarcAg said:I don't think we have a primary ball handler if they stick with what they have been doing. They have interchangeable parts and they put them where they want on the court based off the matchup and what is going to give them the advantage. So guys like Manny, Taylor, Boots, and Pratty will be guys that initiate the offense just depending on the matchups. I expect we will have another guard coming on board too. Gordon has to improve a ton for me to want to see him out there except for maybe situational things if he gets his defense back on track. I still am not going to be shocked if Gordon leaves.Gap said:
So, primary ball handler in the position-less system?
I'd much rather add a 6'5 guard who lights it up and who is a good ball handler instead of what people deem as a PG.
I'm certainly lazy with my descriptions. It is about skills and attributes we need to add and have and I'll describe that as a 1 or a 4/5 when I know that isn't really how most play today.bobinator said:
Everyone still gets hung up on positions. What you need are skills that you can mix and match.
Ballhandling, shooting, and guarding the ball are skills we need more of. We don't necessarily need a guy that's good at all of them though.
I basically break everyone into "guard" or "forward" just for basic description purposes. But I don't see the point of getting caught up in what is a 1 vs a 2 or a 4 vs a 5 like some folks.
Obaseki is a pretty good example of why. He's a "guard" but he played practically every position on the floor at various times towards the end of the season.
Obaseki is a pretty good example of why. He's a "guard" but he played practically every position on the floor at various times towards the end of the season.
He had a nice run.Method Man said:
This is explosive news.
Gap said:Thanks for taking the time to explain. And I definitely agree with your summary in the final sentence. Instead of a "point guard", a longer guy that is a plus ball handler would be ideal.MarcAg said:I don't think we have a primary ball handler if they stick with what they have been doing. They have interchangeable parts and they put them where they want on the court based off the matchup and what is going to give them the advantage. So guys like Manny, Taylor, Boots, and Pratty will be guys that initiate the offense just depending on the matchups. I expect we will have another guard coming on board too. Gordon has to improve a ton for me to want to see him out there except for maybe situational things if he gets his defense back on track. I still am not going to be shocked if Gordon leaves.Gap said:
So, primary ball handler in the position-less system?
I'd much rather add a 6'5 guard who lights it up and who is a good ball handler instead of what people deem as a PG.
Yes. What you said is what I feel they need.
I bet he transfers closer to home.
Fordham is going through some transitions as of yesterday, Hmmm
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This is one of the guys that I was hoping we'd keep.
I was hoping Coleman, Radford, Taylor, Diarra, and Obaseki all stayed as a base core from last season.
I was hoping Coleman, Radford, Taylor, Diarra, and Obaseki all stayed as a base core from last season.
Complete Idiot said:He had a nice run.Method Man said:
This is explosive news.
I wonder who leaked this.
he could end up dropping plenty of deuces at JMU in the footsteps of Denzel Bowlesunmade bed said:Complete Idiot said:He had a nice run.Method Man said:
This is explosive news.
I wonder who leaked this.
Any announcer who didn't yell "Diarra with the flush!" after his three pointers just isn't a professional.EliteZags said:he could end up dropping plenty of deuces at JMU in the footsteps of Denzel Bowlesunmade bed said:Complete Idiot said:He had a nice run.Method Man said:
This is explosive news.
I wonder who leaked this.
Pumpkinhead said:
This is one of the guys that I was hoping we'd keep.
I was hoping Coleman, Radford, Taylor, Diarra, and Obaseki all stayed as a base core from last season.
I agree, but Diarra had to accept being an important role player vs a featured guy. I thought he would, but he sees himself as better than that. I get it, even though I think he's overestimating himself.
This is less than ideal. But on the bright side... if the team underperforms next year Buzz can blame recruiting again. 
The mob- "Buzz needs better player as these players aren't good"Texas A&M said:
This is less than ideal. But on the bright side... if the team underperforms next year Buzz can blame recruiting again.
(Current player leaves)
The mob- "OMG what is going on, why we are losing players"
Do our players suck or do we need them to stay?
I don't see a lot of people next year saying man we sure miss Diarra. There are 189 guards better than Diarra in the portal.
Buzz needs to recruit and develop the talent he recruits. I'm not sure what so hard to understand about that concept for the Buzz fanboys. It is the same mentality of those calling for Hefner to be gone. Why would we want to push guys out who are still improving and start over with another player. I get it... the new player is always 'better'.MarcAg said:The mob- "Buzz needs better player as these players aren't good"Texas A&M said:
This is less than ideal. But on the bright side... if the team underperforms next year Buzz can blame recruiting again.
(Current player leaves)
The mob- "OMG what is going on, why we are losing players"
Do our players suck or do we need them to stay?
I don't see a lot of people next year saying man we sure miss Diarra. There are 189 guards better than Diarra in the portal.
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Jimbo needs to recruit and develop the talent he recruits. I'm not sure what so hard to understand about that concept for the Jimbo fanboys. It is the same mentality of those calling for Calzada to be gone. Why would we want to push guys out who are still improving and start over with another player. I get it... the new player is always 'better'.
FWIW, "Texas A&M" isn't a good representation of most folks. He thinks our team not being on the floor for the national anthem is equivalent to Buzz outright supporting communism and the fall of western democracy or whatever.
Like moths to a flame......bobinator said:Quote:
Jimbo needs to recruit and develop the talent he recruits. I'm not sure what so hard to understand about that concept for the Jimbo fanboys. It is the same mentality of those calling for Calzada to be gone. Why would we want to push guys out who are still improving and start over with another player. I get it... the new player is always 'better'.
I would get it if you we are talking about Radford. But guy's of Diarra's skills are a dime a dozen.
This isn't an A&M basketball thing, this is a college basketball thing. You have to use the portal to upgrade. You can sit pat and "hope" guys like Diarra get better or you can find somebody that is already better than him and you hope you develop that guy into something even better than he currently is.
But anyway in this case it doesn't sound like A&M pushed Diarra out. I think he wants to go be a bigger piece somewhere. I imagine he will go back up northeast to a midmajor or even lower level school. A Bryant, Iona, St Bonaventure or Siena type school.
This is more a loss as far as locker room and leadership, not as far as talent.
This isn't an A&M basketball thing, this is a college basketball thing. You have to use the portal to upgrade. You can sit pat and "hope" guys like Diarra get better or you can find somebody that is already better than him and you hope you develop that guy into something even better than he currently is.
But anyway in this case it doesn't sound like A&M pushed Diarra out. I think he wants to go be a bigger piece somewhere. I imagine he will go back up northeast to a midmajor or even lower level school. A Bryant, Iona, St Bonaventure or Siena type school.
This is more a loss as far as locker room and leadership, not as far as talent.
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Many basketball pundits list A&M in their way too early Top 25 lists. Lunardi has A&M as a No. 6 seed. So somebody has been developed.Texas A&M said:Buzz needs to recruit and develop the talent he recruits. I'm not sure what so hard to understand about that concept for the Buzz fanboys. It is the same mentality of those calling for Hefner to be gone. Why would we want to push guys out who are still improving and start over with another player. I get it... the new player is always 'better'.MarcAg said:The mob- "Buzz needs better player as these players aren't good"Texas A&M said:
This is less than ideal. But on the bright side... if the team underperforms next year Buzz can blame recruiting again.
(Current player leaves)
The mob- "OMG what is going on, why we are losing players"
Do our players suck or do we need them to stay?
I don't see a lot of people next year saying man we sure miss Diarra. There are 189 guards better than Diarra in the portal.
I guess we have gone full circle now.AgEfan said:
I would get it if you we are talking about Radford. But guy's of Diarra's skills are a dime a dozen.
Diarra was apparently a recruiting miss. but
Diarra was also Buzz's #1 national target in that class having paid him an in-person visit at 12:01 AM when the in-person recruiting visit period began and then attending his practice just hours later at 6 AM.
Texas A&M HC Buzz Williams was at @PSAhoops at 12:01 AM and again at 6:15 AM practice for 6’3” Hassan Diarra’20 @hassan_diarra11 of @PSAhoops & @PSACardinals #GigEm 👀 pic.twitter.com/L1nUJ5Vw2f
— 𝒜𝓃𝒹𝓇ℯ𝓌 𝒮𝓁𝒶𝓉ℯ𝓇 (@Andrew__Slater) September 9, 2019
I don't really get the point of your message. Just saying he didn't live up the billing? Yeah I think everybody would agree with that. He is a nice bench piece, but you hope after 2 years your top 100 guys are at the very least going to be a starter in year 3 and Diarra didn't appear to be headed in that direction.
I hope they're right and we become a top 25 team and make the tournament. That doesn't change my stance that losing Diarra is not a good thing. His two game winners alone show enough promise to want to keep him.Hop said:Many basketball pundits list A&M in their way too early Top 25 lists. Lunardi has A&M as a No. 6 seed. So somebody has been developed.Texas A&M said:Buzz needs to recruit and develop the talent he recruits. I'm not sure what so hard to understand about that concept for the Buzz fanboys. It is the same mentality of those calling for Hefner to be gone. Why would we want to push guys out who are still improving and start over with another player. I get it... the new player is always 'better'.MarcAg said:The mob- "Buzz needs better player as these players aren't good"Texas A&M said:
This is less than ideal. But on the bright side... if the team underperforms next year Buzz can blame recruiting again.
(Current player leaves)
The mob- "OMG what is going on, why we are losing players"
Do our players suck or do we need them to stay?
I don't see a lot of people next year saying man we sure miss Diarra. There are 189 guards better than Diarra in the portal.
So you are disappointed Marcus Williams left too because he also hit a buzzer beater.
oh wow, replying to a post on one of the only active threads on this board, Marc you're just another moth like the rest of us.
If Radford, Coleman, Taylor, or Obaseki leaves then I will lose a little sleep. Anyone else and I won't lose a minute of sleep honestly.
Yeah those four are definitely in a class on their own. Especially Radford and Coleman for me because they've already used their transfer exception.
not sure if you mean recruiting miss by the Ags or that he might have been a recruiting miss for a lot of the big boys, too. Offered by Indiana, Illinois, NC State and Georgetown to name a few.Quote:
Diarra was apparently a recruiting miss.
I do think Diarra could still be a really good player in the right situation. It's not like he's a flat out bad player. I think the length and athleticism of the really good SEC teams is a problem for him, but on the right team/in the right league I think he could be a nice piece.
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