*****Aggies vs. Virginia Tech*****

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Aggies vs. Hokies
Friday, November 25th, 2016
4:30 PM CST
Titan Gym, Fullerton, CA

TV: ESPNU
Streaming: WatchESPN
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Opponent kenpom: 38

Top Scorers (ppg, rpg):

-Sr. F Zach LeDay (17.8, 8.0)
-So. G Ahmed Hill (14.5, 2.0)
-Sr. G Seth Allen (11.8, 1.8)
-So. G Justin Robinson (11.5, 4.8)
-So. G/F Chris Clarke (10.5, 7.5)

Schedule (4-0):

W Maine 80-67
W High Point 99-73
W VMI 88-72
W New Mexico 92-72

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Anyone know anything about the Hokies this year other than that they are coached by Buzz?
"Sports do not build character. They reveal it." -John Wooden
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aggie_accountant said:

Anyone know anything about the Hokies this year other than that they are coached by Buzz?
They will be a significantly smaller team than us. They will be playing most of the game essentially a 4-guard lineup and their core rotation is about 8 players deep. This was their starting lineup vs. a larger New Mexico team:

C - Khadim Sy - Freshman (6'10")
G - Justin Robinson - Sophomore (6'1")
G - Chris Clarke - Sophomore (6'6")
G - Justin Bibbs - Junior (6'5")
G - Ahmed Hill - Junior (6'5")

And their top reserves are:

F - Zach LeDay - Senior (6'7")
G - Seth Allen - Senior (6'1")
G - Ty Outlaw - Junior (6'6")

So as you can see, they are a definitive 'small ball' team with only one player (a freshman Sy) taller than 6'7". Buzz has talked about how they know that they will be a smaller team than almost every opponent this season and will have to just out-fight everybody else to overcome that.

They seem to play really hard and are 'scrappy', but their adjusted defensive efficiency on Kenpom is only ranked 75th nationally despite having played a weak schedule thus far (VMI, High Point, Main, New Mexico). Based on what I saw of them vs. the Lobos, we are going to get our share of chances for offensive rebounds and we will get some open threes cause they will have to be really worried about our post play.

They are however ranked 14th nationally in offensive offense efficiency thus far, though Texas A&M is a significantly better defensive team per the numbers than any of the Hokies' previous four opponents. They have yet to play an opponent with a defense even ranked in the top-100 in Kenpom and A&M is ranked currently #17th nationally. But they have lots of players who can shoot and drive and score our get to the FT line.

My quick take

Gonna be primarily about the guard play (like many games this season). We will have a HUGE advantage size wise. So did New Mexico but Tyler Davis, Trocha, and Williams are significantly better than the Lobo's bigs. If that Sy kid gets in foul trouble then the Lobos will have to go with someone like LeDay (a very good player but only 6'7" 235lbs) trying to stop a 6'10" 265 lb Tyler Davis. I assume they will often be doing zones and doubling the post and so forth to avoid getting killed. V-Techs guards are really good and can score off the dribble or hit threes.

Personally, I think Virginia Tech is about as good a team as USC, more or less, but with an even smaller roster though with a bit more guard depth.

IF Hogg continues playing well and Hampton and Gilder can at least play a 'B' game (i.e., not go 2-16 with lots of missed FTs and untimely turnovers like vs. USC) then A&M has very good chance to win this one.

Other Interesting Tidbit

Texas A&M assistant coach Chew was Buzz's top assistant last season at Virginia Tech. So my guess is Chew probably is doing the scouting/game prep for this one, given his intimate familiarity with the Tech's current roster and what they like to run.
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Will be a good test of if we're going to play the way our smaller opponents want to make us play or if we're going to make them play the way we want to play.
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The Aggies are an early 2.5 favorite
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This is another critical game for NCAA tourney hopes. We can counter that loss to bubble USC by beating bubble Va Tech on neutral court. Va Tech made the second round of NIT last year where they lost at BYU. Need to get a win here an hopefully UCLA wins, so we get another quality game in nonconference
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Thanks pumpkin! Great write up! I appreciate how you contribute to this board.
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Pumpkinhead said:

aggie_accountant said:

Anyone know anything about the Hokies this year other than that they are coached by Buzz?

Other Interesting Tidbit

Texas A&M assistant coach Chew was Buzz's top assistant last season at Virginia Tech. So my guess is Chew probably is doing the scouting/game prep for this one, given his intimate familiarity with the Tech's current roster and what they like to run.

Bingo

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It will be interesting to see what our record is against all the coaches people here wish we had hired instead of Billy or fired Billy to hire. Buzz is the first. Later on we have Pearl, Johnson, Martin, and White.
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Good stuff, Pumpkin.

Thanks!
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I have a feeling Billy is going to do well against the coaches some of us wish we had instead of Billy.
"Sports do not build character. They reveal it." -John Wooden
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5 players in double figures. Clarke is a great rebounding wing. They pummeled New Mexico. Disciplined, but untested.

Good to see Hogg and Gilder pour in some points against CSN.


If Hampton plays 20+ minutes and we don't give Davis a good share of shots we will lose. N-S passing has been nearly non-existent without Stansbury.

If Williams plays 20+ minutes we will win.

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I'm interested to see what White does at Florida this year. I like his style, but not many high level programs can run it.
Method Man
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Hadn't heard about this north south passing man.
Serious Lee
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this seems like a game williams will thrive in.
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ESPN ran a graphic during their game yesterday saying VT returned 86% if their scoring from last season, most of any ACC team. Barring significant injuries, VT will not be a bubble team by seasons end. This is a tourney team and should be a great test for the Ags.
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BTHO Virginia Tech!!!!!!
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Pass into the post more.
Method Man
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I was being funny because jml has noted it 100 times. I do the same thing
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jml2621 said:

N-S passing has been nearly non-existent without Stansbury.

If Williams plays 20+ minutes we will win.
Damn, he has only been averaging 18 mpg so far...I guess that means 2 more minutes and we are golden!

So N-S passing means passing into the post? If so, that seems an inaccurate characterization of what has been happening. Thus far, they have seemed to be pretty focused on trying to play inside out.
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Pumpkinhead said:

jml2621 said:

N-S passing has been nearly non-existent without Stansbury.

If Williams plays 20+ minutes we will win.
Damn, he has only been averaging 18 mpg so far...I guess that means 2 more minutes and we are golden!

So N-S passing means passing into the post? If so, that seems an inaccurate characterization of what has been happening. Thus far, they have seemed to be pretty focused on trying to play inside out.
Strongly disagree. Davis had taken 3 shots late in the CSN game. We are passing around the perimeter, similar to before Stansbury arrived. Feed the Man!

You conveniently left out the statement re: Hampton. He should play << 20 min and Wiliams well over 20 min/game.
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Method Man said:

Hadn't heard about this north south passing man.
Attempting to communicate with a football school. Feed the post.

3 of 21 assists by post players is not inside-out offense. Davis took only 3 shots - not acceptable. Buzz will punk this unless we improve our offensive half-court set (reduce minutes for Hampton would be a start).
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Method Man said:

I was being funny because jml has noted it 100 times. I do the same thing
OK - gotcha.


Still BAS-ed from the football game last night and the major Benjanims paid to be there...
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Strongly disagree. Davis had taken 3 shots late in the CSN game. We are passing around the perimeter, similar to before Stansbury arrived. Feed the Man!
You failed to mention that Davis went to the free throw line for six attempts, that he played less than 20 minutes because we were blowing out Cal State and that Hogg, Gilder, and Hampton were lighting it up productively from the outside, taking 28 shot attempts while shooting 67% from the field.
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This color announcer could not be anymore generic and annoying


nad how does Trocha not just put athat in the bucket...pathetic
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If Trocha doesnt put up double digits in the first half, he is a *****. Look at thsi matcup
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JC Hampton pull up 3 ? wtf is that kid smoking, jesus

can we just trade coaches now
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Have the right gameplan so far, need to finish.
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Hokies on pace to take about 70 3's
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More energy shown by Virginia Tech so far
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Let's go Ags!!!!
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PatAg said:

If Trocha doesnt put up double digits in the first half, he is a *****. Look at thsi matcup
he should own the shrimp
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3-8 VT at MTO
Looking sloppy. We're trying to pound it down low but not finishing at the rim.
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Players have to hit the 2 foot shot from right in Front of the basket
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We are playing too tentatively, trying not to getting into a running game with Virginia tech but giving up some offensive transition looks to get into a set offense to pound inside.

I like pounding inside (duh) but they gotta get the easy ones in transitions...doesn't help that the Ags have missed a lot of easy ones.

Still early though.
 
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