UPDATED: ESiPN Rankings

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dan967p
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With the addition of Corprew & Vila, we have moved +10 spots to 15, ahead of Indiana and Texas,

WHOOP
Method Man
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It's just ESPN I think.
wacarnolds
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It's just ESPN I think.
TXAggie2011
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It's just ESPN I think.
RoseRichAg01
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tcow715
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They also have Vila as an unranked prospect. If he were playing high school over here, he would most likely be a 4*. Thus propelling this class even higher.
TexanJeff
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It's only ESiPN in the Zoo...
citizenkane06
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Aston04
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Ranking is nice, but we have some enrollment risks- so Im not crazy excited yet.
phorizt
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speaking of rankings....

If you look back at the 2015 247 composite class rankings and re-rank all of the classes now based on who is still at the school heading into their sophomore seasons then our class would be ranked #2 in the country behind only Arizona. That factors in the one and done players from Duke and UK, OSU losing 2 highly rated transfers, Thomas leaving and Eubanks being added to our class etc.
GE
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speaking of rankings....

If you look back at the 2015 247 composite class rankings and re-rank all of the classes now based on who is still at the school heading into their sophomore seasons then our class would be ranked #2 in the country behind only Arizona. That factors in the one and done players from Duke and UK, OSU losing 2 highly rated transfers, Thomas leaving and Eubanks being added to our class etc.
Damn. That would be an average of an 8.5 ranking over the two years. I don't think there would be more than a handful of teams that are in that same class
phorizt
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If you combine who is left from 2015 with the classes in 2016 the teams with the most underclass talent in all of college basketball are basically(in no order):

Arizona
Duke
Kentucky
Texas A&M

2015 returning- top 3 in returning average player ranking
2016- top 10 in incoming average player ranking(Vila isn't listed so he doesn't help us in overall team ranking or hurt us in average ranking)


Tango Mike
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speaking of rankings....

If you look back at the 2015 247 composite class rankings and re-rank all of the classes now based on who is still at the school heading into their sophomore seasons then our class would be ranked #2 in the country behind only Arizona. That factors in the one and done players from Duke and UK, OSU losing 2 highly rated transfers, Thomas leaving and Eubanks being added to our class etc.
Damn. That would be an average of an 8.5 ranking over the two years. I don't think there would be more than a handful of teams that are in that same class


That would be a completely useless datum. Penalizing Kentucky for recruiting lottery picks is the basis of stupid made up numbers
phorizt
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not trying to penalize for guys leaving early I was just interested to see who has the most sophomore talent left from that class after one year.

Ohio State had an amazing class but lost 2 of those guys to transfer already so they don't have that much left. Kentucky had an amazing class but had two 1 and done guys and 1 transfer. They've got 1 really good player left from that class.
Duke lost a 1 and done guy and a 5 star transfer.
Washington had a couple of big time studs but they both left for the NBA after 1 year.
Arizona had a great class but I just realized they also had a 2015 Nat top 35 recruit transfer this spring. another kid tore his ACL and the other guy in the class did nothing as a freshman. Trier is a stud though.

Our freshmen were really good but not good enough to leave early for the draft. Would I trade our incoming class for Arizona's or Duke's or Kentucky's or several others? No doubt about it. Are some of those teams' freshmen going to be more talented than our sophomores? No doubt. Would I trade our returning sophomore class for any other sophomore class in America right now? I can honestly say I probably wouldn't at this point.

I'm not trying to say we've got the best team in America just that our returning sophomores quite possibly could be the best group of sophs in the country and when combined with another solid 2016 class we've got one of the most talented and balanced groups of underclassmen in the country.
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If you combine who is left from 2015 with the classes in 2016 the teams with the most underclass talent in all of college basketball are basically(in no order):

Arizona
Duke
Kentucky
Texas A&M

2015 returning- top 3 in returning average player ranking
2016- top 10 in incoming average player ranking(Vila isn't listed so he doesn't help us in overall team ranking or hurt us in average ranking)



Method Man
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Should be an elite 8 team the season after next.
mikesyracuse1
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With the addition of Corprew & Vila, we have moved +10 spots to 15, ahead of Indiana and Texas,

WHOOP
Aggies actually jumped from 24 to 14 on May 17th when they added Corprew.

https://texags.com/forums/7/topics/2749215

mikesyracuse1

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not trying to penalize for guys leaving early I was just interested to see who has the most sophomore talent left from that class after one year.

Ohio State had an amazing class but lost 2 of those guys to transfer already so they don't have that much left. Kentucky had an amazing class but had two 1 and done guys and 1 transfer. They've got 1 really good player left from that class.
Duke lost a 1 and done guy and a 5 star transfer.
Washington had a couple of big time studs but they both left for the NBA after 1 year.
Arizona had a great class but I just realized they also had a 2015 Nat top 35 recruit transfer this spring. another kid tore his ACL and the other guy in the class did nothing as a freshman. Trier is a stud though.

Our freshmen were really good but not good enough to leave early for the draft. Would I trade our incoming class for Arizona's or Duke's or Kentucky's or several others? No doubt about it. Are some of those teams' freshmen going to be more talented than our sophomores? No doubt. Would I trade our returning sophomore class for any other sophomore class in America right now? I can honestly say I probably wouldn't at this point.

I'm not trying to say we've got the best team in America just that our returning sophomores quite possibly could be the best group of sophs in the country and when combined with another solid 2016 class we've got one of the most talented and balanced groups of underclassmen in the country.
I don't think I would trade any of them
while it is certainly possible that Kentucky's one and done types will win one natty per four years, after three years of our kind of recruiting it is likely that we become a standard elite eight / final four team - and I like not having to memorize a new roster every year
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speaking of rankings....

If you look back at the 2015 247 composite class rankings and re-rank all of the classes now based on who is still at the school heading into their sophomore seasons then our class would be ranked #2 in the country behind only Arizona. That factors in the one and done players from Duke and UK, OSU losing 2 highly rated transfers, Thomas leaving and Eubanks being added to our class etc.
Damn. That would be an average of an 8.5 ranking over the two years. I don't think there would be more than a handful of teams that are in that same class
That would be a completely useless datum. Penalizing Kentucky for recruiting lottery picks is the basis of stupid made up numbers
Kentucky is an outlier. One outlier does not make something that compares over 300 teams a completely useless datum
Tango Mike
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Elite recruits and rental transfers are the ticket to winning in D1 basketball. Any attempt to redefine recruiting by excluding these is an exercise in silliness.

Does Duke have to put an asterisk by their title-winning class because Okafor left?
GE
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Elite recruits and rental transfers are the ticket to winning in D1 basketball. Any attempt to redefine recruiting by excluding these is an exercise in silliness.

Does Duke have to put an asterisk by their title-winning class because Okafor left?
Going into the 2014-2015 season the metric we are talking about would have included Okafor and any other one and dones in the calculation. Same for Kentuckys incoming class. I'm sure there are some but I can't think of many perenially elite teams that rode transfers to their success.
wacarnolds
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that damn ESPN moving UT back ahead of A&M in the rankings.
ausag
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Picking up 5 star Center will do that.
Method Man
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ESiPN is pandering to the LoloHahahaN
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