Way too early Top 25

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wacarnolds
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The only year I found that we finished in the final coaches top 25 (AP does not do a poll after the tourney) under Turgeon was in 2010 when we finished 25th. I believe you are mistaken. I'm pretty sure we have never finished ranked in the top 25 in back to back years. Metcalf, BCG and Turgeon never accomplished this feat. I'm not saying Kennedy can't accomplish it, but it's highly unlikely based upon our history.
A&M was ranked in the last AP poll in 2010 and 2011. If you don't want to count that, that's your prerogative.
txagssweetie2014
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A&M was ranked in the last AP poll in 2010 and 2011. If you don't want to count that, that's your prerogative.


You sound like a sip fan who claims their 1970 championship*

Most people only count polls that include postseason play. March Madness is pretty important. That 2011 team that you want to count was beaten in the first round by a double digit seed.
wacarnolds
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Totally. A&M is completely above something like that.

Method Man
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Polls don't really matter. Making the tourney matters. How far you go matters.

Saying you lost to a double digit seed ignores that that double digit seed went to the sweet 16 and was grossly undervalued by the committee.
Pumpkinhead
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Polls don't really matter. .


Polls don't matter, conference championships don't matter, kenpom doesn't matter, etc. etc.

You just got a Sweet Sixteen which was probably better than you thought you would get this season, and which was the result that you have opined over and over is all that matters, so why are you still frequently posting like somebody stole your lunch money?

wacarnolds
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Method Man
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Method Man
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Where do they hang the "we finished ranked twelfth" banner? The conference championship matters. I mean it's a god awful conference and the real best team had to play us in our house but it's still a championship. It just doesn't matter as much as tourney success. To me, pumpkinhead. To me.
wacarnolds
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Grayson Allen officially returning to Duke. Should cement them as preseason #1 next year.
wacarnolds
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Tyler Ulis officially hiring an agent, so he won't be back for UK next year. Improves A&M's chances for an SEC title next year.
wacarnolds
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Ulis averaged 37 mpg as a sophomore. Holy sheet!
GE
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Ulis averaged 37 mpg as a sophomore. Holy sheet!
Kid has a truly elite motor. It's not like he was taking plays off either.
mikesyracuse1
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Ulis averaged 37 mpg as a sophomore. Holy sheet!
Kid has a truly elite motor. It's not like he was taking plays off either.


His tank was getting dry at the end of the season in a few games. He was asked to do a lot.

Mikesyracuse1
wacarnolds
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Kid has a truly elite motor. It's not like he was taking plays off either.
Would be a great guy for Caldwell to mirror his game after. The jumpshot might not get to Ulis' level, but the leadership on the floor, intensity, stamina and defensive pressure were all perfect.
salvatore_ditmars
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look at pumper setting up and knocking down all those strawmen. method better recognize.
wacarnolds
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A top 17 is stupid and Texas might be absolutely horrible next year if Isaiah Taylor jumps.



Isaiah Taylor is signing with an agent so he won't be back.

Tough road ahead for Shaka in Y2.
bobinator
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Yeah that team is going to suck. If Shaka gets them to the tournament he's some sort of wizard.
wacarnolds
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we went from #19 to unranked after landing hampton, corprew and vila while losing Stansbury & Keller

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/15746623/revised-way-too-early-top-25-some-movement
wacarnolds
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if that list is even close to being accurate, our schedule is a bit flimsy at the moment. Just 1 SEC team ranked, UK at #3, who we (might?) only play once

#12 Arizona
#16 West Virginia
Southern Cal (honorable mention)


Wooden Classic, not sure who we match up with
#17 UCLA
Dayton (HM)
Virginia Tech (HM)
bobinator
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Heaven forbid we lose to Virginia Tech, they'd have to shut this place down for a few days.

Our non-con schedule is going to be good. Gonzaga and Iowa State finished last year #16 and #18 in KenPom so that should be about where West Virginia and UCLA are next year maybe. Add in Arizona and USC and that's a quality non-con.

Lord knows what the conference will look like next season.



mallen
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Three ranked opponents in OOC (the only part of the schedule we have any control over) is actually pretty good. Last year we also played 3 ranked opponents in non-conference. I don't see much drop off from the upcoming OOC compared to last season.
wacarnolds
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It's looking more and more like putting the SEC/B12 challenge is the middle of conference play was a genius move on the SEC's part. Or at least it has worked out greatly in A&M's favor.

Playing a top 15 ISU broke a string of 8 straight games against unranked SEC opponents

Getting a ranked WVU this upcoming January could have similar benefits, depending on where the UK game falls on our schedule.
bobinator
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It's a great idea for everyone unless you're a bubble team and you get smoked.
wacarnolds
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Heaven forbid we lose to Virginia Tech, they'd have to shut this place down for a few days.

Our non-con schedule is going to be good. Gonzaga and Iowa State finished last year #16 and #18 in KenPom so that should be about where West Virginia and UCLA are next year maybe. Add in Arizona and USC and that's a quality non-con.

Lord knows what the conference will look like next season.
Getting Gonzaga and Syracuse at last year's tournament really helped. I think we'll need similar "luck" this year to keep pace with last year.

Also, last year's OOC had some really solid depth beyond Gonzaga (16) and ISU (18).

#24 Syracuse
#28 Baylor
#36 Texas
#54 Kansas State

Hopefully we can add at least one more solid opponent, giving us at least 6-7 chances at resume-worthy wins.
wacarnolds
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It's a great idea for everyone unless you're a bubble team and you get smoked.
Maybe, but I feel that the discussion on bubble teams typically focuses on who you actually beat and your overall record against RPI Top-whatever. Don't remember too many teams missing out because of a January blowout.
bobinator
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My point was that it's a really good idea, I was just trying to create a hypothetical where it might not benefit someone. Hell, given how bad our league is we should reseed the challenge and play again at the end of February also.
wacarnolds
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gotchya
wacarnolds
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I don't see much drop off from the upcoming OOC compared to last season.
Agree that the overall OOC strength should be similar. I think the top end won't be as high, but the bottom end shouldn't be nearly as low, as we shouldn't be playing the terrible teams we started out last season with to get Jalen eligible.
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