Y'all assume the meat is broken up.

Is meatloaf not made from ground meat?

FIDO*98* said:

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Rattler12 said:

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If I called it Hungarian Goulash why should it matter to you? You seem to have this uncontrollable urge to tell complete strangers how they should and should not cook....have you ever sat down and thought about why?

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I give up. I thought about it long and hard. Brown ground beef, add it to pasta sauce, pour it in a pie shell, call it meatloaf. That's just bizarre

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If you hadn't started in the first place you wouldn't have to give up.....just sayin. But thanks for putting in the effort to think about it long and hard. Btw the results were pretty tasty. The layer of mashed potato's topped with cheese added so much to it. If you live anywhere close to Spring Branch in Comal CO stop by and I'll give you a sample. You might be surprised

FIDO*98* said:

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Rattler12 said:

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Rattler12 said:

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I've got 1/2 quart of frozen leftover lasagna sauce that wasn't used so I was just going to brown the raw hamburger, drain it and add the lasagna sauce and mix

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I can't even remotely wrap my head around how you would call that meatloaf

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For lack of a better word ......you never had Italian meat loaf before? Maybe you need to get out more......or use your imagination instead of relying on Serious Eats.....

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Explain it to me like I'm a stupid child. You add cooked ground meat to pasta sauce and call it meatloaf. Regardless of how you think of me, this makes no sense whatsoever. I would consider "Italian meatloaf" similar to a meatball recipe cooked in in a loaf pan. Coincidentally it's what I made for lunch today

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You actually ate that????

Chipotlemonger said:

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I'm with FIDO on this one. No clue how I'd consider it a meatloaf. More of a sloppy Joe pie hybrid.

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Same ingredients......ground beef, ground pork, onion, bell pepper, also in this case some chopped mushrooms bread crumbs, egg, seasonings to the meat and to a tomato based liquid to add some moisture . .......just cooked differently in a different shaped "loaf". I could have not put the mashed potato layer on top but don't they both wind up in the same place anyway?

How about we call it country hick's meat loaf pie ........

DatTallArchitect said:

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That's like calling a taco a burrito because they have the same ingredients

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You must be getting your Taco's and burrittos from some other place than me.....So give me a name for it. I'm all ears.

Chipotlemonger said:

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DiskoTroop said:

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Y'all assume the meat is broken up.

Is meatloaf not made from ground meat?

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Quote: " I've got 1/2 quart of frozen leftover lasagna sauce that wasn't used so I was just going to brown the raw hamburger, drain it and add the lasagna sauce and mix"

I'll quote post this. Yes I'm assuming the meat is broken up.

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Brown the raw hamburger.

You mean like... a hamburger patty? Or like meat balls? Or Salisbury steak? Or kefta? Or a dozen other formed masses we make with ground meat, then brown? Why couldn't this be done with a meat loaf?

Look, I'm not giving you a hard time. I'm asking you to take the imaginary journey with Rattler. It's his vision. He's not asking you to condone it or replicate it. Use your imagination.

DiskoTroop said:

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Chipotlemonger said:

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DiskoTroop said:

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Y'all assume the meat is broken up.

Is meatloaf not made from ground meat?

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Quote: " I've got 1/2 quart of frozen leftover lasagna sauce that wasn't used so I was just going to brown the raw hamburger, drain it and add the lasagna sauce and mix"

I'll quote post this. Yes I'm assuming the meat is broken up.

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Brown the raw hamburger.

You mean like... a hamburger patty? Or like meat balls? Or Salisbury steak? Or kefta? Or a dozen other formed masses we make with ground meat, then brown? Why couldn't this be done with a meat loaf?

Look, I'm not giving you a hard time. I'm asking you to take the imaginary journey with Rattler. It's his vision. He's not asking you to condone it or replicate it. Use your imagination.

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That's a hard concept for some folks to grasp. It could be said that from the start of man's existence on this good green earth, every recipe for food has started due to some one's imagination...... the same could be said for the wheel, the sundial, hot and cold running water........ as far as I know the Lord never said "Let there be meatloaf......and only ONE way to make it."

Smoked meatloaf is awesome. Even my daughter who hates all things ground beef/meat loves it.

I generally use 50/50 venison and high fat ground beef. Add some bacon bits and maybe some onions/bell pepper. Spicy brown mustard rub with seasoning, smoke over pecan and oak. I like brown gravy with mine, so I whip up a batch while it is resting. Open faced meatloaf sammiches (toasted bread, sourdough if I have it) are outstanding.

Problem with A&M is it graduates too many engineers......if it ain't done by the book it ain't done right...

FIDO*98* said:

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And the problem with society at large is everyone wants to define words by their own unique definition to the point words have no longer have meaning.

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Define "everyone"

Chipotlemonger said:

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He specifically followed that up with "drain" it. The only type of beef you drain I can think of is ground beef just all loose and chopped up…no loaves, patties, keftas, etc.

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Funny, the whole world seems to know meatloaf needs to be drained but you. Never seen a meatloaf pan with insert so it can drain the fat away?




We were specifically talking about the need to drain it so it didn't ruin the crust. Try and keep up.

With some folk 1+2+3+4+5=15 but give them 3+5+1+4+2 and they get all confused....

Rattler12 said:

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DatTallArchitect said:

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That's like calling a taco a burrito because they have the same ingredients

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You must be getting your Taco's and burrittos from some other place than me.....So give me a name for it. I'm all ears.

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First, I was just pointing out the fallacy in your logic. However, from your description (and without pictures), it sounds like a casserole to me.

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DatTallArchitect said:

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That's like calling a taco a burrito because they have the same ingredients

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You must be getting your Taco's and burrittos from some other place than me.....So give me a name for it. I'm all ears.

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First, I was just pointing out the fallacy in your logic. However, from your description (and without pictures), it sounds like a casserole to me.

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A casserole? In a pie crust? A casserole in a pie crust.......any fallacies in your own logic there Podge?

Kinda curious. Why even bother with the pie crust? I don't understand the value of it.

superunknown said:

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Kinda curious. Why even bother with the pie crust? I don't understand the value of it.

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Meatloaf pot pie sounds pretty good.

Pure and simple....it was an experiment. It was born of a crazy idea of "what if." I had a pie crust that needed to be used, I had some leftover lasagna filling that needed to be used, I had a lb of ground beef that needed to be used. I had potatoes that needed to be cooked. And it turned out very tasty. So tasty I had more of it for lunch today. What is so hard to understand about that? I took the same basic ingredients used in yall's definition of what a meat loaf is..... ground meat, bread crumbs, eggs, spices, onion, bell peppers....... and cooked it in a different manner and for lack of coming up with a better name called it a meat loaf pie. Geese I bet yall's wives are only used to the missionary position because yall think "that's the way it should be done" ....and then you rave about a meatloaf cooked on a BBQ pit. Take your "engineers" hat's off sometime and try making the mundane different. Capiche? Entiendes? Verstehe? Ya'll are really gonna freak when I tell you I added some kernel corn to it also.........I'm going to go to my room and stand in the corner now cause I been a bad boy and didn't follow the rules.

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superunknown said:

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Kinda curious. Why even bother with the pie crust? I don't understand the value of it.

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Meatloaf pot pie sounds pretty good.

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It was ...and was is the operative word cause it's all gone now. And it was so good there will be another. I may make it with ground chicken and catfish the next time. Maybe top it with mexican rice and anchovies

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Pure and simple....it was an experiment. It was born of a crazy idea of "what if." I had a pie crust that needed to be used, I had some leftover lasagna filling that needed to be used, I had a lb of ground beef that needed to be used. I had potatoes that needed to be cooked. And it turned out very tasty. So tasty I had more of it for lunch today. What is so hard to understand about that? I took the same basic ingredients used in yall's definition of what a meat loaf is..... ground meat, bread crumbs, eggs, spices, onion, bell peppers....... and cooked it in a different manner and for lack of coming up with a better name called it a meat loaf pie. Geese I bet yall's wives are only used to the missionary position because yall think "that's the way it should be done" ....and then you rave about a meatloaf cooked on a BBQ pit. Take your "engineers" hat's off sometime and try making the mundane different. Capiche? Entiendes? Verstehe? Ya'll are really gonna freak when I tell you I added some kernel corn to it also.........I'm going to go to my room and stand in the corner now cause I been a bad boy and didn't follow the rules.

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You brought me around on it. I think I'll try mine like this:

Cook the meatloaf as usual
Par-bake a pie crust
Slice meatloaf about 3/4 inch slices and line the pie crust
Mashed potatoes
Gravy, peas and carrots
Puff pastry top

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Think up another name to call it besides meatloaf pie or you have to put on your iron undies with this bunch

I understand why you're defensive but i have no issues with it. Agree with math guy, sounded kinda like a wellington but I'm also not a big bread/crust guy. I often have weird mashhup combos too. Someone upthread mentioned meatballs and I wound up smoking some (pic below) and they were tasty as hell but I don't know I'd do it again unless it was for some sort of gathering.

Meatball (2 pounds beef 1 pound breakfast type sausage in a meatloaf type application) stuffed with smoked monterrey jack cheese.

Call it a walking meatloaf. Like how somehow a dang frito pie is known in parts of the country as a walking taco.

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The problem is you called it a meatloaf or implied it was one. You posted it on a thread specifically about meatloaf. And it's not.

You made a meat pie with Italian sauce. Lovely. But don't call it a meatloaf and then get yippie and indignant when other people say it's not. Call it what it is.

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Yippie? Indignant? I was just having some fun with cooking and your types go all wankie about it. I'm sorry I don't measure up.......

Mathguy64 said:

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The problem is you called it a meatloaf or implied it was one. You posted it on a thread specifically about meatloaf. And it's not.

You made a meat pie with Italian sauce. Lovely. But don't call it a meatloaf and then get yippie and indignant when other people say it's not. Call it what it is.

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Meatloaf is a serious subject here

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Meatloaf is a serious subject here

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Apparently. I've sure learned my lesson .....then again maybe not.