Betraying their country and leading an armed insurrection that cost over 1.5M casualties isn't just "one flaw".Lobster Twins said:
Why don't we just not name any of them after any men since one flaw will eventually get you canceled?
Isnt that the same thing that most of these peoples fathers or grandfathers did with the British? We went against the Brits when at the time we had been british citizens for hundreds of years. It is sort of hard to be so loyal to a country that had only existed for a couple dozen years when the civil war started.74OA said:Betraying their country and leading an armed insurrection that cost over 1.5M casualties isn't just "one flaw".Lobster Twins said:
Why don't we just not name any of them after any men since one flaw will eventually get you canceled?
Are there any military bases in Britain honoring traitors?clarythedrill said:Isnt that the same thing that most of these peoples fathers or grandfathers did with the British? We went against the Brits when at the time we had been british citizens for hundreds of years. It is sort of hard to be so loyal to a country that had only existed for a couple dozen years when the civil war started.74OA said:Betraying their country and leading an armed insurrection that cost over 1.5M casualties isn't just "one flaw".Lobster Twins said:
Why don't we just not name any of them after any men since one flaw will eventually get you canceled?
As for this guy that Hood is being renamed after, he is only getting it because he is a mexican, and really did nothing other than follow his career path to reach his rank. At least Roy P. Benavidez, who it should be renamed for, fought and was awarded the MOH. He is much more deserving than this 4 star.
Ok, for the record, I would leave it as Ft Hood. Wokeness cannot be allowed to win.74OA said:Are there any military bases in Britain honoring traitors?clarythedrill said:Isnt that the same thing that most of these peoples fathers or grandfathers did with the British? We went against the Brits when at the time we had been british citizens for hundreds of years. It is sort of hard to be so loyal to a country that had only existed for a couple dozen years when the civil war started.74OA said:Betraying their country and leading an armed insurrection that cost over 1.5M casualties isn't just "one flaw".Lobster Twins said:
Why don't we just not name any of them after any men since one flaw will eventually get you canceled?
As for this guy that Hood is being renamed after, he is only getting it because he is a mexican, and really did nothing other than follow his career path to reach his rank. At least Roy P. Benavidez, who it should be renamed for, fought and was awarded the MOH. He is much more deserving than this 4 star.
You can argue who is more deserving, but I note you don't argue for Hood.
Benavides was not a tanker or in the Cav. How about Ft Bragg?clarythedrill said:Isnt that the same thing that most of these peoples fathers or grandfathers did with the British? We went against the Brits when at the time we had been british citizens for hundreds of years. It is sort of hard to be so loyal to a country that had only existed for a couple dozen years when the civil war started.74OA said:Betraying their country and leading an armed insurrection that cost over 1.5M casualties isn't just "one flaw".Lobster Twins said:
Why don't we just not name any of them after any men since one flaw will eventually get you canceled?
As for this guy that Hood is being renamed after, he is only getting it because he is a mexican, and really did nothing other than follow his career path to reach his rank. At least Roy P. Benavidez, who it should be renamed for, fought and was awarded the MOH. He is much more deserving than this 4 star.
No, he wasnt, but he was from Texas and a certifiable badass.OldArmyCT said:Benavides was not a tanker or in the Cav. How about Ft Bragg?clarythedrill said:Isnt that the same thing that most of these peoples fathers or grandfathers did with the British? We went against the Brits when at the time we had been british citizens for hundreds of years. It is sort of hard to be so loyal to a country that had only existed for a couple dozen years when the civil war started.74OA said:Betraying their country and leading an armed insurrection that cost over 1.5M casualties isn't just "one flaw".Lobster Twins said:
Why don't we just not name any of them after any men since one flaw will eventually get you canceled?
As for this guy that Hood is being renamed after, he is only getting it because he is a mexican, and really did nothing other than follow his career path to reach his rank. At least Roy P. Benavidez, who it should be renamed for, fought and was awarded the MOH. He is much more deserving than this 4 star.
For Bragg they should have gone with Ridgeway. Commanded the 82nd and XVIII Airborne Corps in WWII and 8th Army and then all UN forces in Korea. No idea why they didn't, other than they already had Eisenhower and Hal Moore and didn't want another white male.clarythedrill said:No, he wasnt, but he was from Texas and a certifiable badass.OldArmyCT said:Benavides was not a tanker or in the Cav. How about Ft Bragg?clarythedrill said:Isnt that the same thing that most of these peoples fathers or grandfathers did with the British? We went against the Brits when at the time we had been british citizens for hundreds of years. It is sort of hard to be so loyal to a country that had only existed for a couple dozen years when the civil war started.74OA said:Betraying their country and leading an armed insurrection that cost over 1.5M casualties isn't just "one flaw".Lobster Twins said:
Why don't we just not name any of them after any men since one flaw will eventually get you canceled?
As for this guy that Hood is being renamed after, he is only getting it because he is a mexican, and really did nothing other than follow his career path to reach his rank. At least Roy P. Benavidez, who it should be renamed for, fought and was awarded the MOH. He is much more deserving than this 4 star.
I can agree with you on Patton, but he was a hot head and was know to lay his hands on people who pissed him off. He is actually the antithesis of most general officers in the service today, so you know he would have been blackballed due to this.Smeghead4761 said:For Bragg they should have gone with Ridgeway. Commanded the 82nd and XVIII Airborne Corps in WWII and 8th Army and then all UN forces in Korea. No idea why they didn't, other than they already had Eisenhower and Hal Moore and didn't want another white male.clarythedrill said:No, he wasnt, but he was from Texas and a certifiable badass.OldArmyCT said:Benavides was not a tanker or in the Cav. How about Ft Bragg?clarythedrill said:Isnt that the same thing that most of these peoples fathers or grandfathers did with the British? We went against the Brits when at the time we had been british citizens for hundreds of years. It is sort of hard to be so loyal to a country that had only existed for a couple dozen years when the civil war started.74OA said:Betraying their country and leading an armed insurrection that cost over 1.5M casualties isn't just "one flaw".Lobster Twins said:
Why don't we just not name any of them after any men since one flaw will eventually get you canceled?
As for this guy that Hood is being renamed after, he is only getting it because he is a mexican, and really did nothing other than follow his career path to reach his rank. At least Roy P. Benavidez, who it should be renamed for, fought and was awarded the MOH. He is much more deserving than this 4 star.
My top choices for Hood would have been:
1. Patton
2. Pershing
3. Audie Murphy
You know what name is very conspicuous by its absence in the naming of Army posts, especially considering his success on the battlefield and influence on the Army, at least during his lifetime?
Winfield Scott. General officer for almost 50 years. Probably our most consistently successful Army commander in the War of 1812. His campaign to take Mexico City was described by the Duke of Wellington as the most brilliant of its time.
But he was a Virginian, who sided with the Union, and thus became anathema in his own home state.
Its not the first time the streets have changed names.Aggie Infantry said:
IMCOM (Installation Management Command) is responsible for the execution of this. To update the Police/Fire software with the new street names (yes, they are renaming streets), will cost $35M+/-
I know. I work for them in SATX
If I was a state or local government, I'd be sending a bill for all that to the DoD. Not just software - DoT will have to update things like freeway exit signs as well.Aggie Infantry said:
IMCOM (Installation Management Command) is responsible for the execution of this. To update the Police/Fire software with the new street names (yes, they are renaming streets), will cost $35M+/-
I know. I work for them in SATX
So was Cavazos. Again, Bragg was a better fit.clarythedrill said:No, he wasnt, but he was from Texas and a certifiable badass.OldArmyCT said:Benavides was not a tanker or in the Cav. How about Ft Bragg?clarythedrill said:Isnt that the same thing that most of these peoples fathers or grandfathers did with the British? We went against the Brits when at the time we had been british citizens for hundreds of years. It is sort of hard to be so loyal to a country that had only existed for a couple dozen years when the civil war started.74OA said:Betraying their country and leading an armed insurrection that cost over 1.5M casualties isn't just "one flaw".Lobster Twins said:
Why don't we just not name any of them after any men since one flaw will eventually get you canceled?
As for this guy that Hood is being renamed after, he is only getting it because he is a mexican, and really did nothing other than follow his career path to reach his rank. At least Roy P. Benavidez, who it should be renamed for, fought and was awarded the MOH. He is much more deserving than this 4 star.
There actually is already a Camp Rudder. It's a sub-installation of Eglin AFB, used for Swamp Phase of Ranger School.Dark_Knight said:
Ft Rudder would be badass, but that should saved for the Rangers somewhere.
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And I do believe that ALL Soldiers from the South were given the same status as northern Soldiers by President Lincoln, so were not considered traitors after the war at all. I am sure an actual historian can talk more to that, but basically all was forgiven after the war so the country could heal and move on. Whether the Brits did it or not is not relevant to this.
Public Law 85-425 gave pensions to Confederate Soldiers at the same rate as Federal Soldiers. And it was President Andrew Jackson who pardoned all Confederate Soldiers in 1868. So, it seems like all was forgiven, but obviously not forgotten.
I would suggest that the naming in the first place was done for the same reasons.sharpdressedman said:
The renaming bs demonstrably manifests the loss of the country to those whose goals include revising and erasing the nation's history.
Bull***tQuote:
Confederates were traitors to the United States.
CanyonAg77 said:Bull***tQuote:
Confederates were traitors to the United States.
Sapper Redux said:CanyonAg77 said:Bull***tQuote:
Confederates were traitors to the United States.
Truth hurts. They betrayed the Constitution and the Union. Treason.
Rebellion and insurrection are forbidden. Power rests in the federal government. States cannot "enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.CanyonAg77 said:Sapper Redux said:CanyonAg77 said:Bull***tQuote:
Confederates were traitors to the United States.
Truth hurts. They betrayed the Constitution and the Union. Treason.
Point out the part of the Constitution that forbids secession.
Dark_Knight said:
Nonsense. States will secede if it is necessary.
Confederate soldiers were not "traitors". GTFO with bs talk.
