Any WWI Aggies Buried in Paris American Cemetery ?

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CanyonAg77 said:



From Rabid Cougar's link. Hmmmm. Fifty-seven. Not 55 as in today's campusology. And if you look at the photo of the West Gate (WWI) memorial, their appear to be only 52 names.

Wonder what the difference is.
When I was a student, there were 52 names, 52 flags, etc.

And for those who say I'm wrong, I have my Fish Handbook to prove it.

Don't know when or how it got changed.
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Seems like the number morphed to 55 by my time. I don't know if I have an old Cadence, but I can look.
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ag-bq-seventy said:

CanyonAg77 said:



From Rabid Cougar's link. Hmmmm. Fifty-seven. Not 55 as in today's campusology. And if you look at the photo of the West Gate (WWI) memorial, their appear to be only 52 names.

Wonder what the difference is.
When I was a student, there were 52 names, 52 flags, etc.

And for those who say I'm wrong, I have my Fish Handbook to prove it.

Don't know when or how it got changed.
No one says you're wrong. We just have numbers from different sources that are all over the place and we cannot figure out why.
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I remember it being 55. I can imagine the number changing over the years as records change and improve.
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1949 Directory of Former Students lists 51 WW1Casualties including Easterwood - all wjth rank and class .

This directory . also . lists WW2 casualties by class and gives info on how they died plus more personal info .
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CanyonAg77 said:



From Rabid Cougar's link. Hmmmm. Fifty-seven. Not 55 as in today's campusology. And if you look at the photo of the West Gate (WWI) memorial, their appear to be only 52 names.

Wonder what the difference is.
Quick perusal of 49 directory:

Not on Longhorn Shield but in directory :

Allison Elmer C. '19

Barfield C '19

Curtis Manson F Pvt '10

Easterwood Jesse L Lt '09

Woodson JM '18


Not in directory but on Lponghorn Shield

Butts, John William

This would be 52 in directory including Butts.

My count on Longhorn Shieldl is 47 - plus the 5 from directory equals 52 !

When my head clears I will try to reconcile the difference to 57.

From Canyon's list from Tex.Go To War - Burford, Suber, and Hays are not on Longhorn Shield or Directory .

52 plus these 3 equals 55. Which appears to be the right number ! 55 !

Open to corrections.

Canyon found my error re: Memorial now corrected to read " Longhorn Shield " .
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Where did you get a list of who is on the memorial? The photo you copied above is from the "Longhorn" yearbook, not the memorial.
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Started with the 49 Directory, then the picture of the Memorial, then the AGGTWar comments you posted.
CanyonAg77
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Your eyes are better than mine, or you have access to a much better photo of the memorial. None of the photos posted here are legible.
BigJim49 AustinNowDallas
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Sorry ! It was your photo from the Longhorn instead of the Memorial ( to my old eyes they looked the same ) !
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No problem. I was just wondering if you had info the rest of us didn't have.
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Rabid Cougar said:

Major Benjamin F. Wright '11 was commander of the 3rd battalion of the 141st Inf. Regiment of the 36th Division.
He was from Waco.
he was killed 8 October 1918 in the assaults around St, Entienne, France.

1st Lt. Graham B.Luhn '12 was also killed on this same day in the same area. He was Company Commander of Company D of the 141st Inf.Regiment.


Just to clarify it is St. Etienne-a-Arnes, which is close to Sommepy-Tahure. There is a memorial there on the battlefield. It is about an hour and half west of Verdun. Most of the US KIA from this battle are buried in the Meuse-Argonne American Cemetery. It was a bad day for the 36th.
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Sorry to get into these comments a few years late, but . . . the Brazos County World War I Centennial Committee, if you haven't seen it, has worked on this issue of the fallen Aggies of World War I. While there are complications regarding U.S. Army privates in the Student Army Training Corps on campus who died of the flu, there are 63 Aggies who lost their lives in WW1. The Gold Book and 1920 Longhorn list most of them and no one seems to know why there are only 55 names on the monument and for the Memorial Trees around the drill field -- other than they just didn't know. The time frame the Committee used was the same criteria to be issued a WW1 Victory medal -- April 6, 1917 to January 10, 1920.

Currently, the Committee is compiling its activities from the Centennial to include in a publication which will correct some of the misinformation as well as add to it, i.e. burial information. Stay tuned . . .
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I wonder if Charles Teague is related to Tiger Teague?

https://corps.tamu.edu/olin-e-teague-32/
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Just bought "The Book of Aggie Lists, Texas A&M University's Military Heritage" from the Texas A&M University Press. It lists Aggies buried or honored on a missing list in the American Battle Monuments Commission cemeteries. I will be visiting the Rhone and Epinal Cemeteries next month.
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CanyonAg77 said:

Interesting post. I guess you would start with a list of the names. Then see if the cemetery has a listing of all burials. For the former, I'd check with Dethloff and Adams, authors of Texas Aggies Go To War. I don't think I've ever seen such a list.

On a related note, back when I was a cadet, the trees around the (now) Simpson Drill field had little plaques with the names, and the location of their death. The plaques are gone now, I hope they are in the archives somewhere. While a lot of them read like a history of WWI, with the famous battles, I know at least one simply said "Submarine". And I think another said "aeroplane", though I am less sure about that.
I hate to hear that the little plaques have been removed. One Thanksgiving holiday, I stayed on campus (I think there was me, some campus maintenance people, and 10,000 grackles). I had already gotten my limit of deer, the family had gone to the deer lease, and I had a huge paper to write, so I stayed.

One day I went out for a walk and went over to the area where those trees with the plaques were. I remember it was very cold. I knew the plaques were there but on this day I went from tree to tree reading the names of all those Aggies who had died in that war. I, too, hope those have been placed in an archive and hope they get put back on some trees somewhere on campus.
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mullokmotx said:

Just bought "The Book of Aggie Lists, Texas A&M University's Military Heritage" from the Texas A&M University Press. It lists Aggies buried or honored on a missing list in the American Battle Monuments Commission cemeteries. I will be visiting the Rhone and Epinal Cemeteries next month.
I have been to five or six of the WWI cemeteries. The ABMC does an amazing job over there. You should look up the superintendents of the ones you visit as each of them we met provided a lot of insight into their particular cemetery. My grandfather was gassed (but survived) in the Meuse-Argonne offensive and the superintendent at that cemetery was a wealth of information.
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one safe place said:

CanyonAg77 said:

Interesting post. I guess you would start with a list of the names. Then see if the cemetery has a listing of all burials. For the former, I'd check with Dethloff and Adams, authors of Texas Aggies Go To War. I don't think I've ever seen such a list.

On a related note, back when I was a cadet, the trees around the (now) Simpson Drill field had little plaques with the names, and the location of their death. The plaques are gone now, I hope they are in the archives somewhere. While a lot of them read like a history of WWI, with the famous battles, I know at least one simply said "Submarine". And I think another said "aeroplane", though I am less sure about that.
I hate to hear that the little plaques have been removed. One Thanksgiving holiday, I stayed on campus (I think there was me, some campus maintenance people, and 10,000 grackles). I had already gotten my limit of deer, the family had gone to the deer lease, and I had a huge paper to write, so I stayed.

One day I went out for a walk and went over to the area where those trees with the plaques were. I remember it was very cold. I knew the plaques were there but on this day I went from tree to tree reading the names of all those Aggies who had died in that war. I, too, hope those have been placed in an archive and hope they get put back on some trees somewhere on campus.
One of the 15 new plaques at Simpson Drill Field



https://today.tamu.edu/2022/03/14/texas-am-announces-discovery-of-15-additional-aggies-killed-in-wwi/





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