Looking for text of WW2 era DUC

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Wearer of the Ring
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My Dad was in 2nd Batt 330th IR when they received a DUC for action at St. Malo in early August 1944. Where can I get a copy of the text? So far googling has turned up nothing.
JABQ04
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At my kids Christmas performance. Once I get home I think I can bring it up for you. If you have access to AKO you can do it on your own by googling presidential unit citations WW II and look for the link that takes you to the apd.army.mil site. I used that to help dudes find copies of MUCs and PUCs during OIF OEF times for their records and ERBs for DA Photos.
Tango Mike
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I looked through the DAGO unit awards list, and it only goes back as far as 1982. I did find the dates and General Order number though.

330th Infantry Regiment, 83rd Infantry Division
+ Mine Platoon and 1st Platoon Anti-Tank Company (don't know if these were from somewhere else)
January 9-11 1945

War Department General Order #11-46
Campaign Participation: Ardennes-Alsace, Central Europe, Normandy, Northern France, Rhineland
Wearer of the Ring
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Thanx men. Has to do with the fight for / capture of the fortress of St. Joseph. 6-8 august 1944
JABQ04
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Cant find the specific info on that award but follow this link:

http://83rdinfdivdocs.org/units/330th-ir/


Tons of info on that page After action reports, the 330th's KIA/WIA/MIA by name and rank as well as awards listings. There is a lot of good info there. Hope it helps.

Some stuff I found really interesting


Letter by Division Commander to families of servicemen who were casualties
http://83rdinfdivdocs.org/documents/various/83d_Letter_casualties.pdf



Humorous reintegration memo for the troops upon return to the states (2nd page not the greatest quality)

http://83rdinfdivdocs.org/documents/various/Indoctrination_for_return_to_US.pdf
Tango Mike
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Thanx men. Has to do with the fight for / capture of the fortress of St. Joseph. 6-8 august 1944


There isn't any surviving record of that unit receiving another unit award other than the 9-11 January 1945 one.

Edit: that I can find in the War Department archives
JABQ04
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Thanx men. Has to do with the fight for / capture of the fortress of St. Joseph. 6-8 august 1944


There isn't any record of that unit receiving another unit award other than the 9-11 January 1945 one.



Tango Mike, I've found several references to the 2-330 receiving the award for actions in August 1944.


DISTINGUISHED UNIT CITATION: 2nd Bn 330th Infantry for 7-9 Aug 44 action in France; 329th Infantry for 4-15 Sept action in France, 3rd Bn 330th Infantry for 10-13 Dec 44 action in Grashan, Germany, 2nd Bn 329th Infantry for 12-16 Dec 44 action in Germany, 1st Bn 330th Infantry for 9-1 1 Jan 45 action in Belgium; 1st Platoon AT Co & Mine Platoon AT Co 330th Infantry for 9-11 Jan 45 action in Belgium; 3rd Bn 331st Infantry for 2-5 April action in Germany.

This is from just a general info website for the division. Once I get up and moving and get the kids off to school I'll post another link from the 1960s that has a solid list of unit recognized campaigns and unit awards from WWII. On the link I posted last night I found the award citation for Jan 1945. I might have missed the 2-330's award but there was a gap from Sep 1944 to April 1945 in some of the links.

*I apologize I'm not good at posting pics and copying from documents and posting them on TexAgs.*
JABQ04
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After looking again, I find multiple sites saying 2nd battalion earned the citation for their actions on 7-9 Aug 1944. However in DA Pamphlet 672-1 ( Unit Citation and Campaign Participation Credit Register) dates July 1961 I can not find anything. If you have the time is suggest going through it. ( it's 547 pages long but units are in numerical order). The unit awarded the citation in Jan. 1945 is in there.

Still the website I posted links to last night has tremendous amounts of info on it. I've been going through reading after action reports and awards citations and daily orders all morning so far. Good chance your father is mention in there by name. Heck even payroll info is in there.

Very sobering info too when you read the pages and pages of men KIA and WIA from the 83rd division.

There are folks to email I think from their site and may be able to help you find out more info. Good luck and I sincerely hope this helps and you find it as fascinating as I did.

Also just to throw a plug out there I'm trying to find info on my grandpas war service with the 147 infantry. I know their parent organization was the 37th ID, but their regiment was detached and fought on Iwo and Okinawa. I know he earned a Bronze Star and a Combat Infantrymans badge but that's about it. Internet isn't turning up too much on his regiment. Hopefully one of your gurus can help me out.
Wearer of the Ring
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http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=st+malo+ww2&view=detail&&&mid=3C145E7E2598B1678ADE3C145E7E2598B1678ADE&rvsmid=3C145E7E2598B1678ADE3C145E7E2598B1678ADE#view=detail&mid=3C145E7E2598B1678ADE3C145E7E2598B1678ADE

thanks men for your help and interest.

I have seen the site with all of the 83rd docs. I have read most of it. The division journals are hair raising. It's like sitting in HQ while hell breaks loose.

There are great maps with overlays showing exactly where E CO 2/330 was. You can look at google earth and all those hedgerows are still exactly where they were years ago.

The film clip above has to do with St Malo. I was watching it to get an idea of the city etc. If you scroll to the 4:52 mark the camera man kind of high lights one guy walking down the road with a cigarette hanging out of his mouth who glances twice at the camera. My Dad. ((!!)) I'm still almost in shock from having seen that 5 or 6 seconds of his life. And dang glad he survived the next few days. He mentions in his notes that on the morning of the 9th his morning report showed E Co at 2 O 5 NCO and 43 EM. Which tells you what the 5-9 of August was like for them.

Thanks again for your interest and help.
Wearer of the Ring
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Looking at DA pamphlet 672-1 as suggested, page 259 2nd item from top is the item I'm looking for.

So next step is to find War Department General Order 11-46.
JABQ04
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quote:
Looking at DA pamphlet 672-1 as suggested, page 259 2nd item from top is the item I'm looking for.

So next step is to find War Department General Order 11-46.



Cool you found what you were looking for. Hat website was amazing, I spent close to four hours just looking at reports the other night. Too bad other units aren't so easily available.

Also out of curiosity was your dad and officer or enlisted and what position did he hold. I'm guessing he was E Co by earlier comments.
Wearer of the Ring
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from his account + some official records ...

Dad was a replacement officer assigned to E Co 2/330 on 9 July 1944. 83rd had gone on offensive starting 4 July. Hadn't gone very well. Dad was one of 4 replacement O + 67 EM assigned to E Co on the 9th. He was then XO. He was CO for a couple days when the then CO became a casualty and until the replacement CO felt ok with taking over. When this officer also became a casualty a week or so later Dad was CO again until he himself became a casualty on 9 August.

His unit took over the part of the line held by the 101st. Later they were on the very corner of the bomb drop zone for operation cobra. And after the break out and a few days R&R they were assigned the task of capturing the minor channel port of St. Malo. So Dad spent some time in the hedgerows, then in street to street fighting.

He wrote a narrative about it when he got home. He very very rarely had anything to say about it. By the strangest of coincidences Lt. Foley (Band of Brothers) his wife was my Mom's BF at Pitt. I was in their home countless times growing up. When the book came out I mentioned it to Dad who confirmed that our family friend was indeed the Foley in the book. I said to my Dad something like Wow you two must have had so much to talk about. He said No we never not once talked about our war experience. Which I think is a lot more common than we can imagine.
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