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PROGRAM RELATED QUESTIONS:
In order to begin any meaningful design, a designer will need to know as much about the house and the site as possible. Many jurisdictions place site and building limitations that need to be researched.
I know a lot of this information offhand from past research and will provided it. The rest I'll start tracking down and post it as I find it.
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With that in mind, I have a few programmatic questions:
1. That is a lot of bathrooms. Do you know what size your water is? PSI?
I will check the line size coming into the house in the morning. I don't know the PSI though, if it gets to the point of that being necessary I can get a gauge and check it.
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2. Before planning, I would need to research your deed and restrictions. Would also need to research HOA. Also, Zoning and would need a survey.
This type of information will tell me if you can go up, if you can't, if you will need to add a residential sprinkler, if your site has any impervious cover limits, if there is a tree ordinance, if there are any easements, if HOA has restrictions. Well you get the idea.
You may not want to post that online, however, it will need to be researched. Can you do this or will you need some assistance?
I can absolutely dig up all these specifics but can say offhand that our civic association is not super stringent. Assuming the street facing portion of the house doesn't change a ton they are going to approve anything we would be happy with. From looking at other renos in our area basically the back of the house and garage are fair game. For survey, I'm going to post a better as built below and it has most of the needed info on it. the quick version is I have building line setbacks of 3 feet from either side of the property. I'm looking to find it but I believe the aerial setback is 18". The property line is the dotted line and as you can see the fence is on the property line, the western most corner of the garage is on the lateral setback, and if I remember correctly the back most corner is on the rear building line setback. You can see the driveway curves out and hits the property line. Basically there isn't any room to go out. Back could be an option but I'd rather no lose what little backyard I have right now.
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Also, the as-built plans will need a higher level of information. Floor drains, outlets, VTRs, HVAC, load bearing walls, every window, and door opening, built-in cabinets, all plumbing fixtures and light fixtures plus switches need to be drawn. I know this is a lot of work, however, it will be invaluable when trying to save money and make good design decisions.
working on this. The one below has more info and I'll post a final one hopefully this coming weekend with all this information.
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Last time- pictures. Lots of them! Every room, each facade, and all parts of the yard. The survey should indicate where the electrical service and water meter are on the site, if not- will need that as well. Oh yeah- will need pictures of all HVAC, HWH, electrical panel, and a list of the equipment and furniture with sizes you intend to keep and incorporate into the design.
took pictures tonight and will post them below with labels. For hvac, panel and hwh, are pictures needed or just specs? For electrical and water, I've got them roughed in below and will fine tune their location in the final drawing. Electrical comes into the back of the garage. Water main runs along the street with the meter in the front and water coming in the east side of the house. Sewer main runs along the back fence. And in the exterior pics you will see the gas meter comes in at the back wall of the master bedroom.
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How do you suggest we proceed? A lot of this is very personal and I don't want you to risk identity theft?
my plan is to dig up all the needed info and post it scrubbed of personal identifying info as much as possible. If I hit a snag with that we can address it.
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Let's talk about the budget. With $250k, I would allocate it as follows:
A. Master Suite:
- Master Bath @ $65k
- Master Closet (system) @ $15k
- Master Bedroom @ $20k
B. Two Kids Room w/ Jack and Jill Bath @ $82.5k
- assume 550SF + Stairs (second floor addition)
- patch and repair existing
- larger HVAC
- framing improvements+ energy rating
- mid level finishes and fixtures
- assume minor upgrades to plumb/ elec.
C. Interior upgrades + contingency @ $50k
- code upgrades
- patch and repair
- open up walls between Kitchen and Living Room
- minor site improvements
- keep at least $5k for a contingency
D. Engineering and Design Fees + Permits @ $17.5k
- Engineer for foundation and framing
- Architect or Interior Designer all other plans
- if in a city, permit review
Just a few notes on this budget allocation:
- A. Master suite is the bottom of our priority list for this reno as we have already redone it once ourselves about 6 years ago. There are a few things that are less than ideal due to our inexperience when we did it and working with less than ideal space so if the budget allows we would love to make some changes, but it won't need to be a full master suite remodel.
- B. Extra SF upstairs is where I would expect and hope to spend the lions share of this reno budget. The main driver for the renovation is for additional space. For upstairs space excluding the garage discussed below, I would also want to get + 2 bedrooms and a full bath, but ideally 3 bedrooms so all our kids (current at least) could be on the same floor. I would also want to have a game room type space on this level, as the current playroom will most likely go back to being a dining room in any renovation plan. I would expect to be looking more in the range of +1000 SF upstairs before you include the garage.
- C. This is where I expect to break the budget. I'll outline it in more detail when I post my final as built plans but one of my wife's deal breaker items for the reno is to redo the kitchen. Opening it up with an island where there is currently a wall and expanding it into the breakfast area a bit and into what is currently the office. What she has described, I imagine we spend 50k before we even put up sheet rock.
- D. I am in a city, so this project will get the pleasure of dealing with City of Houston permitting office.
- E. For the $250k number, out goal for this project would be to get an estimate based on a rough design including everything on our wishlist, and then depending on the final number, work backwards on our priority list and see how much has to be cut to make it to our final number to see if the project makes financial sense for us.
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What is your schedule to get this done? May affect labor and materials estimate.
my schedule is to try to have a good idea what this project scope and cost would be by this summer to be able to make final decisions from and then if the remodel is the winner, likely start construction next summer (ish). We aren't in a huge rush so could wait on things like lumber prices to return fully to pre-pandemic prices.
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DESIGN RELATED QUESTIONS:
This information is not so much driven by the physical aspects of the building And site, but more about how you live, the style of the house, your goals, and aspects about the site (orientation, predominate views, trees, prevailing winds, etc.). It may sound like overkill, but the more I know the better I can design something that doesn't look "added on".
With that in mind, some questions:
1. I noticed you placed the future Master Suite at the front of the house, is there a particular reason? I ask because there is a design concept we call the "progression of spaces". Basically, the more public spaces are towards the front of the house and the more private spaces farthest away. By locating the Master Suite towards the rear of the house, it can add another element to this area - a reflective garden. This could even be a private patio? Again, this is a big picture thing and something that is a little easier to explain at the site itself.
It could also mean evaluating another design option where you build a ground floor addition to the back of the house for the Master Suite and put the Kids Rooms up front? Just a thought.
this is just because of how I had the model oriented. The one below will be clearer but the master is at the back. The bump out window looks out into the back yard.
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2. I can see from your plan outline that the house is split into 3 zones. Entering through the center, I imagine the living room is in the center with the Kitchen, Laundry, Dining areas off to the right. To the left are the bedrooms. Having seen this type of scheme in the past, it makes for a congested atmosphere. Basically the Master Suite is too close to the kids area. This will be magnified as the kids get older and louder. One solution may be to put the Master Suite, Home Office, Guest Room on the left and add Kids Rooms upstairs above the Kitchen and Dining. This will be great when the kids have sleep overs and you just want to get away.
other than right/left being flipped this is basically correct. I like the idea of separating master from kids rooms, but due to my wife's vision for kitchen/living/dining I don't see there being space for the left right split. This is what leads me towards the up/down split instead.
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3. How big is the current Garage? I see it faces into the courtyard space and that is a good thing. One design option may be to explore adding rooms over that space? The other is over the back half more toward the Kitchen. That would put the stairs off to the right as you walked in. This is where pictures will help.
the garage is currently 21' 5" wide and 19' 5" deep internal dimensions measured from the studs. And actually, adding on top of it is one of our preferred options. The dream would be to widen it into the backyard to accommodate the stairs, and make it attached so that the stairs land in the newly enlarged mud room and the top connects to the upstairs space of the main house. This new above garage space would become the new home to all of my tools and shop equipment/supplies and give space in the garage for our two large cars (Silverado and explorer). Right now there isn't enough width to have anything inside the garage and still open car doors, which is one of my wife's greatest frustrations with our current house. Having this space would allow me to remove everything in the garage currently preventing this.
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That's it for now. This will be a challenge, because I like to visit the site and spend a couple of hours taking it all in.
I'll continue to post my updates in batches like this as I have them. And once I get the full as built posted ill have a list of notes with it on what our dreams and priorities for this renovation would be. But the simple version is this in order:
- 1. Extra space upstairs for kids living. Out goal would be to have at least 5 bedrooms so each kids gets one and have a dedicated guest room since all of our family is out of town.
- 2. Open up/renovate kitchen/living area. This is where my wife spends most of her time and as far as upgrades go is her number one priority
- 3. Some solution that allows wife to open her car doors at least to the first catch point while in the garage so she can load/unload kids without dinging doors. In our heads this is an upward expansion but if there are other ways, we are open to ideas.
- 4. Larger mudroom with half bath incorporated.
- 5. A dedicated/semi dedicated office as I currently am working from home and will likely have greater opportunity to do so in the future even once our office goes back.
- 6. Rework master bath/closet layout to better use the space and incorporate any added space from the staircase eating the nursery.
On this list 1-3 are basically our "deal breakers" of if we can't do at least this, we likely wont end up doing the project. As for the site visit if you are in the Houston area would love to have you out to look at the site if you are interested.