I''d like to build something similar to this. Has anyone done the same? I have no idea what to expect to budget for something like this. This being the outdoor kitchen. I'd like to add a sink and don't need the BGE but basically this.
Yeah,... "Patios" and "Outdoor kitchen" mean huge markup... It's insane.txag2008 said:
Are you building it or hiring out?
If DIY, I'll say ~$12-16k
If you're hiring out, I'd say ~$27-35k
That's not including the concrete/flagstone, not sure what you currently have.
Im a little rusty as Ive been out of the industry for a few years but youre looking well over 30k.combat wombat said:
I''d like to build something similar to this. Has anyone done the same? I have no idea what to expect to budget for something like this. This being the outdoor kitchen. I'd like to add a sink and don't need the BGE but basically this.
and that doesnt include his concrete or the roof structureCromagnum said:
Where are you located? I had a guy do my entire patio last year. Wall it in, windows, tiles, installation of granite, sink, cabinets, install bbq grill, install power burner, install ventilation and lighting. I had to buy my own appliances, but the total cost I was charged was like 30k.
Going solid Cedar instead of lumber and cladding is NOT a medium ticket portion. That Pavilion in cedar beams would be probably 12-15kone MEEN Ag said:
Take my advice as a grain of salt, I got skewered on another board for opining a high estimate for job. An outdoor kitchen is going to be more expensive as an new indoor kitchen-you've got everything besides drywalled windows plus adding rooflines. So assume $200-250/sqft
Couple of big ticket things:
Run plumbing/tie back into sewer
Run electrical/potentially upgrade panel (hopefully not)
Regrade yard, lay stone down
Medium ticket things:
Choosing the stone
Choosing the granite
Choosing to go with full cedar beams instead of cladding wood with cedar finish
Things you can come back and finish later:
Firepit (assuming your not adding a gas assist)
Cladding interior of roof
I know you think you don't have any skills, but if 35-50k is too much to swallow I think you can save money most easily in a few ways:
-No flagstone, just stained concrete
-No stacked stone, go with a modern farmhouse board and batton look
-No big exposed beams, go with cheaper laminated beams and clad with cedar
-Do the electrical lights yourself
-Do the stacked stone yourself (its super easy, it goes in sections)
Thing I would never do myself:
-Install countertops and roofs.
Everything else is just a test of patience between how quickly my wallet replenishes versus how agitated my wife is for the project not being done.
cpsencik04 said:Going solid Cedar instead of lumber and cladding is NOT a medium ticket portion. That Pavilion in cedar beams would be probably 12-15kone MEEN Ag said:
Take my advice as a grain of salt, I got skewered on another board for opining a high estimate for job. An outdoor kitchen is going to be more expensive as an new indoor kitchen-you've got everything besides drywalled windows plus adding rooflines. So assume $200-250/sqft
Couple of big ticket things:
Run plumbing/tie back into sewer
Run electrical/potentially upgrade panel (hopefully not)
Regrade yard, lay stone down
Medium ticket things:
Choosing the stone
Choosing the granite
Choosing to go with full cedar beams instead of cladding wood with cedar finish
Things you can come back and finish later:
Firepit (assuming your not adding a gas assist)
Cladding interior of roof
I know you think you don't have any skills, but if 35-50k is too much to swallow I think you can save money most easily in a few ways:
-No flagstone, just stained concrete
-No stacked stone, go with a modern farmhouse board and batton look
-No big exposed beams, go with cheaper laminated beams and clad with cedar
-Do the electrical lights yourself
-Do the stacked stone yourself (its super easy, it goes in sections)
Thing I would never do myself:
-Install countertops and roofs.
Everything else is just a test of patience between how quickly my wallet replenishes versus how agitated my wife is for the project not being done.
TMoney2007 said:Yeah,... "Patios" and "Outdoor kitchen" mean huge markup... It's insane.txag2008 said:
Are you building it or hiring out?
If DIY, I'll say ~$12-16k
If you're hiring out, I'd say ~$27-35k
That's not including the concrete/flagstone, not sure what you currently have.
False...cpsencik04 said:Going solid Cedar instead of lumber and cladding is NOT a medium ticket portion. That Pavilion in cedar beams would be probably 12-15kone MEEN Ag said:
Take my advice as a grain of salt, I got skewered on another board for opining a high estimate for job. An outdoor kitchen is going to be more expensive as an new indoor kitchen-you've got everything besides drywalled windows plus adding rooflines. So assume $200-250/sqft
Couple of big ticket things:
Run plumbing/tie back into sewer
Run electrical/potentially upgrade panel (hopefully not)
Regrade yard, lay stone down
Medium ticket things:
Choosing the stone
Choosing the granite
Choosing to go with full cedar beams instead of cladding wood with cedar finish
Things you can come back and finish later:
Firepit (assuming your not adding a gas assist)
Cladding interior of roof
I know you think you don't have any skills, but if 35-50k is too much to swallow I think you can save money most easily in a few ways:
-No flagstone, just stained concrete
-No stacked stone, go with a modern farmhouse board and batton look
-No big exposed beams, go with cheaper laminated beams and clad with cedar
-Do the electrical lights yourself
-Do the stacked stone yourself (its super easy, it goes in sections)
Thing I would never do myself:
-Install countertops and roofs.
Everything else is just a test of patience between how quickly my wallet replenishes versus how agitated my wife is for the project not being done.
This was my thought! the "huge markup" defference between them was free labor DIY vs paying for labor and a GC to plan and schedule everything for you.JP76 said:TMoney2007 said:Yeah,... "Patios" and "Outdoor kitchen" mean huge markup... It's insane.txag2008 said:
Are you building it or hiring out?
If DIY, I'll say ~$12-16k
If you're hiring out, I'd say ~$27-35k
That's not including the concrete/flagstone, not sure what you currently have.
You realize skilled labor doesn't work for free ?
agz win said:
Don't do the built in for the fire pit bench. Get individual adirondacks so people can be comfortable and move around to stay out of the smoke.
one MEEN Ag said:
Also, nobody is quoting the detached house. 4k if its a dollhouse, 8k if its living quarters for a four-foot tall mother in law.
I'm well aware. "Luxury" builds like outdoor kitchens and patio covers get higher markup because they're luxury projects. I've seen trucks driving around that say "patios starting at $18k"... no qualifiers, that's just the least that they would charge. They charge more because they can get more, but patio building isn't some magical trade that's different from carpentry and stonework.JP76 said:TMoney2007 said:Yeah,... "Patios" and "Outdoor kitchen" mean huge markup... It's insane.txag2008 said:
Are you building it or hiring out?
If DIY, I'll say ~$12-16k
If you're hiring out, I'd say ~$27-35k
That's not including the concrete/flagstone, not sure what you currently have.
You realize skilled labor doesn't work for free ?