Woodworkers - planer vs jointer

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CLB2008
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My understanding is that a jointer helps with warped or twisted wood. Does either of them eliminate the need for sanding?
V8Aggie
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No.

Use a jointer to square up the lumber.

Thickness planer used for making the lumber to a desired thickness. (These will not true up lumber)

After running through either one, the board will be smoother to the touch but you will definitely want to sand depending on what you're using it for.
JDCAG (NOT Colin)
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A jointer will give you a flat edge.

A planer will give you an even thickness.

To square up lumber, you typically will:

1. Run one edge over the jointer. You now have 1 "true" edge, 3 unknowns
2. Place your true edge against the jointer fence and run it over the jointer. You now have 1 true edge, 1 true face and they're square (90 degrees) to each other
3. Send it through the planer. You now have 1 true "edge", 2 faces that are flat, parallel to each other and 90 degrees to the true edge
4. Put the true edge against your table saw fence and rip the other side. You now have 2 true edges and 2 flat, parallel faces 90 degrees to those edges

A planer just makes sure the board is a particular thickness all the way through. If your board is bowed, it will leave you with a bowed board that is just the same thickness all the way throuh. The reason it won't work on warps or twists is because the planer will use rollers to "push down" the wood as it goes through, so it will flatten the board as it makes its cuts, but the board will warp once it comes out from under the rollers.

You CAN make a planer "sled" and shim under the board to prevent this, but it can be cumbersom.

I don't have a jointer, but want one.

The problem with jointers is they get expensive fast and you can only face joint as wide as your jointer, which means even if you drop money on an 8 inch jointer, you can't face joint a 10 inch wide board.

What I try to do is use a hand planer to get the wood as flat as I can and then use the planer to get it even thickness. This has worked well enough for me thus far. Then you can make an edge jointing jig for your table saw and finish getting everything squared up.

That said it's not perfect and I'm still learning how to improve. I often run into issues cause my process isn't getting things as square as I need, but I get better each time and learn new tricks as I continue.
agrams
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Jdcag got it pretty good. I have a 10" combo jointer/planer and a 20" planer. For bigger boards with a lot of twist that are too big to joint, I use a router on a jig with an end mill bit and basically manually flatten the board. Look up Nick Offerman's fine woodworking article, it has some good pics and setup instructions.

For pointers, you typically want one with infeed/outfeed tables as long as you can get. You can easily square a board 2x as long as the beds. Any longer of a board and you will have a hard time handling the boards to manage drop/balance.
TX AG 88
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good info/advice in here!!!
JDCAG (NOT Colin)
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TX AG 88 said:

good info/advice in here!!!


Here's the best advice I can give on TexAgs woodworking - always look for and listen to agrams and if you are proud of anything you've done DON'T look at his work.
Satellite of Love
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I would switch steps 1 and 2. Do a face (wider width side) first to get that flat. The use the wider face as flat reference surface up against the jointer's fence to get and edge flat and square.
bad_teammate said on 2/10/21:
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JDCAG (NOT Colin)
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Yeah, thinking about it - I would agree.

I don't have a jointer, so it's more "theory" than practice for me.

Who wants to sell me their jointer?
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