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Here it is zoomed in. Really bad look for that cop.

A new video of Scottie Scheffler’s arrest has been released

pic.twitter.com/YrE2JJ22k9

— Barstool Sports (@barstoolsports) May 23, 2024

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Wow. That video does not jive with what we read in the police report last week.

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Marauder Blue 6 said:

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I never saw the officer "attach" himself to the vehicle or fall down. This keeps looking worse for the Louisville PD.

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Darlington's account occurs almost entirely off camera. This video provides no real insight into what happened.

We're seeing the very tail end. Presumably after the cop fell down, got back up, and chased down the car.

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Exactly on the first part but I disagree that it provides no insight.

There's also four eye witnesses there. I wonder what they had to say. Maybe they're all cops and circled the wagon.

You can see the lights from Scottie's car as he pulls up behind the bus and then turns into Valhalla. He was going slow but doesn't stop. If the cop was drug there, he was able to recover, jump up, and chase down Scottie pretty quickly.

jonj101 said:

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'03ag said:

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Marauder Blue 6 said:

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I never saw the officer "attach" himself to the vehicle or fall down. This keeps looking worse for the Louisville PD.

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Darlington's account occurs almost entirely off camera. This video provides no real insight into what happened.

We're seeing the very tail end. Presumably after the cop fell down, got back up, and chased down the car.

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Maybe. Or maybe Darlington's account never happened at all.

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Maybe. But the video doesn't contradict Darlington, or Gillis. It doesn't tell us anything.

PJYoung said:

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'03ag said:

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Marauder Blue 6 said:

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I never saw the officer "attach" himself to the vehicle or fall down. This keeps looking worse for the Louisville PD.

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Darlington's account occurs almost entirely off camera. This video provides no real insight into what happened.

We're seeing the very tail end. Presumably after the cop fell down, got back up, and chased down the car.

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Exactly on the first part but I disagree that it provides no insight.

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The video doesn't contradict Scottie, Gillis or any other eye witness we've heard from. I don't see how it helps us at all. Everything of consequence happens before the car, or Gillis are visible in the video.

I guess if you had previously inferred that he was driving fast then this is insightful.

My point is that nobody, including Gillis, has ever suggested that he was going too fast or that his speed was the reason for the reckless driving charge.

Scottie's lawyer indicated he was moving slowly. Independent witnesses indicated he was going slowly. The Police report doesn't contradict that, so I've assumed he was going slowly. So what have I learned from the video?

JCA1 said:

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PJYoung said:

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'03ag said:

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PJYoung said:

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'03ag said:

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Marauder Blue 6 said:

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I never saw the officer "attach" himself to the vehicle or fall down. This keeps looking worse for the Louisville PD.

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Darlington's account occurs almost entirely off camera. This video provides no real insight into what happened.

We're seeing the very tail end. Presumably after the cop fell down, got back up, and chased down the car.

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Exactly on the first part but I disagree that it provides no insight.

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The video doesn't contradict Scottie, Gillis or any other eye witness we've heard from. I don't see how it helps us at all. Everything of consequence happens before the car, or Gillis are visible in the video.

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I think it provides insight in that it shows the speed that Scottie was driving. He wasn't being reckless at all. The cop was able to jog around and catch up to him after supposedly falling on his ass.

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Yeah. And why is grainy, incomplete footage all we have? Oh yeah, because the cop's body cam wasn't turned on.

While this footage doesn't entirely negate the cop's story, it further damages the state's case. They have the burden of proof and, due to the cop violating policy, the only footage we have shows Scottie slowly driving and following directions and the cop acting like a lunatic

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This is an assumption not in the video. And probably not true, even if I 100% accept Scottie's and Jeff Darlington's version of event(which I think I do).

I think one thing we should all easily accept is that Gillis didn't want Scottie to proceed and Scottie did it anyway. This alone doesn't mean anything to me.

How well that was communicated to Scottie? Was it communicated through an open window while Scottie was stopped, or was it frantic yelling at a slowly moving car with windows up in the dark and rain? Was Gillis contradicting orders Scottie got from another cop? Did Scottie reasonably believe Gillis was NOT a cop? Did Scottie proceed before or after Gillis "attached" himself to the car? Did Gillis ACTUALLY attach himself? Or did he try to grab the car after it was moving and got knocked down? How quickly did all of this unfold?

I could come up with these questions and probably few more that are relevant to ME and how I might feel about the incident. But then I have no idea if they are legally relevant, and none of them are answered by that video.

JCA1 said:

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You're correct that we don't know exactly what happened off camera. And certainly game for internet discussion.

But for what we have on camera, Scottie appears to have followed directions. He stopped as soon as the cop banged on his window and appears to have complied with all directives afterward. He doesn't appear to resist arrest or behave in any erratic or belligerent fashion.

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I totally agree, but none of that is related to his actual charges.

Super troopers

'03ag said:

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This is fun

Louisville Police Det. Bryan Gillis has been disciplined several times for wrecking his vehicle & missing court, according to his personnel file. He was also suspended 5 days for doing "donuts" in his police vehicle while on duty with an intoxicated civilian in a "Code 3" fashion pic.twitter.com/WsW9SlqGxy

— Jason Riley (@JasonRileyWDRB) May 23, 2024

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I saw that movie in theaters.

Bryan Gillis needs to learn this phrase real quick like....

"Welcome to Walmart, how can I assist you today? "

Also, kudos to Scottie for staying cool and not saying anything or retaliating.

Ervin Burrell said:

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chap said:

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Here it is zoomed in. Really bad look for that cop.

A new video of Scottie Scheffler’s arrest has been released

pic.twitter.com/YrE2JJ22k9

— Barstool Sports (@barstoolsports) May 23, 2024

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Imagine caring that much about your sh/tty job. Scary to think that if this was one of us (i.e. a regular Joe without fame and all the money in the world), we'd be in danger of being labeled a felon for life due to a dipsh/t on a power trip. But hey, "back the blue!"...or something.

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I think most cops, like most folks out earning a living & not on the dole, are good people. The problem is that both the rank & file, and more importantly the higher-level folks & union, won't (pardon the pun) "self-police" their own.

Instead of cutting incompetents like this guy loose or at least have his fellow officers "code red" him, they close ranks and protect guys like him, thereby negatively affecting the entire force. And then in situations like Chauvin where they should back a guy 100%, they turn their backs. The exact opposite of what you should do if you want a respected, disciplined police force.

I must have missed the part where all the coworkers ran over to the vehicle that was dragging the detective

"It doesn't matter who it is, if someone is telling you to stop, you stop"

Man, that cop is incredibly dumb and condescending. It gets harder and harder to defend these fools.

NEW: Charges against Scottie Scheffler will be dropped today. The agreement stipulates that both sides agree not to pursue any legal action related to the ramifications of the May 17 arrest. pic.twitter.com/g5uYPfIFag

— Terry Meiners ™️ (@terrymeiners) May 29, 2024

Interesting details there. My biggest takeaway is that Scottie talked way too much after getting cuffed, and trying to talk to the actual arresting officer could only have made it worse.

Based on what Scottie says officer reached inside a moving car and got knocked over. I can't see how that would hold up to the charges he has.

PJYoung said:

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Interesting details there. My biggest takeaway is that Scottie talked way too much after getting cuffed, and trying to talk to the actual arresting officer could only have made it worse.

Based on what Scottie says officer reached inside a moving car and got knocked over. I can't see how that would hold up to the charges he has.

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No, his window was up when he stopped the car. The officer banged his flashlight on it to get his attention - you can see that in the video. When Scottie rolled down the window the cop reached inside of the car to grab him and open his door. The reporter is very careful to say the cop 'attached himself' to the car in the 1st part of the incident that's not on video. Scottie had no idea he did that as he drove away.

The 3 ESPN employees who witnessed the entire incident didn't agree with what the police officer said in his official report and there was no video evidence of the the 1st (most important part) of the incident.

There was 0% chance the government was ever gonna win this in court.

Scottie is just being nice by agreeing not to sue.

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You're conflating different parts of the interaction. Listen to Scottie in that video

Scottie tells the officer "as I was pulling in my window was down. I thought he was a security guard that was mistaken. As I was pulling by him he grabbed my arm."

Scottie talked a bit too much, especially apologizing or describing what he did was stupid. But I can understand a straight-and-narrow guy like him being very flustered and cooperative to a fault. That said, some of what he said would have been problematic in court if he was Joe Citizen.

"I was told to go this way by another officer, I didn't recognize you as police in the dark and rain, so I was confused and flustered when you approached my car in the manner that you did" was as far as it should have gone, if that. But again, all benefit of hindsight.

'03ag said:

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PJYoung said:

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'03ag said:

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Interesting details there. My biggest takeaway is that Scottie talked way too much after getting cuffed, and trying to talk to the actual arresting officer could only have made it worse.

Based on what Scottie says officer reached inside a moving car and got knocked over. I can't see how that would hold up to the charges he has.

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No, his window was up when he stopped the car. The officer banged his flashlight on it to get his attention - you can see that in the video. When Scottie rolled down the window the cop reached inside of the car to grab him and open his door. The reporter is very careful to say the cop 'attached himself' to the car in the 1st part of the incident that's not on video. Scottie had no idea he did that as he drove away.

The 3 ESPN employees who witnessed the entire incident didn't agree with what the police officer said in his official report and there was no video evidence of the the 1st (most important part) of the incident.

There was 0% chance the government was ever gonna win this in court.

Scottie is just being nice by agreeing not to sue.

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You're conflating different parts of the interaction. Listen to Scottie in that video

Scottie tells the officer "as I was pulling in my window was down. I thought he was a security guard that was mistaken. As I was pulling by him he grabbed my arm."

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Ah yeah i missed that.