Full Swing Season 2

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Anyone binging besides me? I'm on episode 6 already. Travelling to a business trip today so I was able to download a whole bunch of them for a 5.5 hour flight.

What are your thoughts of this season so far?
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I'm in episode one and I think I may hate JT. I hope they don't focus on Rory the whole season.
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All it's done for me is confirm that I absolutely will be at the 2025 Ryder Cup at Bethpage, and I will be insufferable to the European team, but most especially Rory.

Rory is a piece of garbage. He should move his @$$ back to Ireland. And BTW, he'll never win another major.

And seeing the American women that are married to the European dudes cheer against my country pisses me off.
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Don't get the Rory hate by some on TexAgs. Not my favorite but definitely a fan!
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He's a self entitled, arrogant pompous @$$. His antics towards Bones at the Ryder Cup were inexcusable.

And BTW, his comments about Cantlay have been completely out of line. Cantlay has never said anything bad against Rory. Rory insists on being the center of attention in every way. That's why he appointed himself the savior of the tour when Jay Moynahan was negotiating with the Saudis.
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On episode 2 now. I'm disappointed they didn't pick up the Sam Bennett story at all from the Masters. His name flashed across the screen once on the scoreboard, but that was it.
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Missed opportunity IMO.
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I love Ricky Fowler but he should never appear in another Ryder Cup again.
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Rory is like Buzz. A self righteous turd who is only interested in padding his own pocket book at the expense of others
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Rory will never win another major. He should be ripped into eternity for a waste of talent, and being a little *****!
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SouthAustinAgSwag said:

I love Ricky Fowler but he should never appear in another Ryder Cup again.


I like him a lot too and I agree. He had zero fire in Rome and it bothered me when he conceded his last match when the match wasn't technically over. It didn't look like he wanted to be there. He has had his chances over the years and really hasn't done much in the Ryder Cup.
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lawless89 said:

On episode 2 now. I'm disappointed they didn't pick up the Sam Bennett story at all from the Masters. His name flashed across the screen once on the scoreboard, but that was it.
Why would a show about PGA Tour players spend any time on a collegiate amateur? Let him earn a Tour card and then bust out the BAS.
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aggiebonzo said:

Don't get the Rory hate by some on TexAgs. Not my favorite but definitely a fan!
I don't get it either. People on this website are ****ing weird.
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boy09 said:

aggiebonzo said:

Don't get the Rory hate by some on TexAgs. Not my favorite but definitely a fan!
I don't get it either. People on this website are ****ing weird.


Agreed. Rory is not a bad dude. He is one of the few players who will say what's on his mind. Not always the best idea for him but I respect it. I'm not exactly a Rory fan but he is good at this game.
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Watched ep1 last night. If I'm Rory I'd punch Monhan in the junk every time I see him.
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Keeper of The Spirits said:

Rory is like Buzz. A self righteous turd who is only interested in padding his own pocket book at the expense of others
I'm not anti- nor pro-Rory, but it's kinda a stretch to accuse him of only wanting to pad his own pocket when he didn't go to LIV, right?
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Really enjoyed both seasons.

Bigger fan of Joel and his caddie. Already liked them.
Wasn't that much of a Keegan fan but think more of him now and wish him success.
Didn't really like Matt Fitzpatrick but my view of him changed. Kinda like him now.

Never was that much of a Rory fan but like him even less now. Not that it matters but will probably root for anyone in contention with him to beat him.

I used to like Zach Johnson but after seeing him having dinner with 3 guys that weren't in the top 12 and he picked all 3 makes me think way less of him and proved to me that 2023 was a boys club Ryder Cup.

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snowaggie said:

Keeper of The Spirits said:

Rory is like Buzz. A self righteous turd who is only interested in padding his own pocket book at the expense of others
I'm not anti- nor pro-Rory, but it's kinda a stretch to accuse him of only wanting to pad his own pocket when he didn't go to LIV, right?
Yeah. That argument makes literally no sense. Rory could have easily pocketed $200-300 million to make the move. He's hurt his pocketbook, his career (by spending so much time dealing with this rather than playing golf), and his reputation (by being a lightening rod) for no really no gain at all, other than him doing what he believes is the right thing to do.

Rory seems to believe in the format that has largely be in place for professional golf for a century or so, as well as values the history. His position is really no different than a ton of other guys (Tiger, Couples, JT, DLIII, Rickie, etc.) but he has been the most vocal/out front. Heck, even the guys that went to LIV have a hard time making the case that their format is better. They pretty much just admit they did it for the money. Regardless of where you come down, it's weird to characterize the guys that took a bunch of money, without any real concern for what this means for golf, are the good guys and the guy that turns down the money for his principles is the selfish *****.
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SouthAustinAgSwag said:

I love Ricky Fowler but he should never appear in another Ryder Cup again.

I binged the entire series the last 2 nights and I agree. If he wasn't friends with Zach he wouldn't be on the team. You know Keegan was thinking the same thing. Like another poster said I really want to go in 2025
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My take is Rory never thought guys like Rahm would ever be on LIV, and no one in the world saw the PIF investment in the tour coming.

Yes, he could have lined his pockets and chose not to go. Good for him. But it's clear from his words and how much contempt he spoke about LIV that he thought the LIV thing would be a flash in the pan. It isn't. I'm not nuts about the format but the Saudi's have money coming out of every crevice on their bodies. It's going nowhere.

I just think the dude's an absolute whiner.
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SouthAustinAgSwag said:

My take is Rory never thought guys like Rahm would ever be on LIV, and no one in the world saw the PIF investment in the tour coming.

Yes, he could have lined his pockets and chose not to go. Good for him. But it's clear from his words and how much contempt he spoke about LIV that he thought the LIV thing would be a flash in the pan. It isn't. I'm not nuts about the format but the Saudi's have money coming out of every crevice on their bodies. It's going nowhere.

I just think the dude's an absolute whiner.
You think Rory never thought it was possible guys might take hundreds of millions of dollars? I'm pretty sure he knew that was a possibility but he tried his best to convince them otherwise. But I'm sure he realized he wouldn't convince everyone.

Everyone knows the Saudis have a ton of money. The question was how much (and how long) they were willing to burn it for LIV. My guess is both he and the Tour hoped the Saudis would grow tried of lighting hundreds of millions of dollars on fire after a year or so. When that didn't happen, I think that's when the Tour finally agreed to sit down with them. But all LIV has done is prove they will continue to burn money. I guess that means they're not a flash in the pan, but, again, not sure what's actually been achieved outside of a few guys' bank accounts.

As for LIV not going anywhere, Rory being a whiner, etc. I guess I just don't understand what some of you are rooting for. Are you happy professional golf is torn in two just because a foreign country decided to try and take it over? Do you want the PGAT to go under? Do you want LIV to prevail and professional golf to be 14 events with half of them played during the middle of the night on the other side of the planet?
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I want the best guys playing on one tour. What I get tired of is painting one side as "good" and the other as "evil" which was said a few times in ep1. I don't think that's right and actually has me root for some LIV guys when they play in majors, and I was never a huge fan of many of them except Brooks.

Never really had an issue with Rory. I think he was used by the Tour and if I was him would never go out of my way to help them with PR again.
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98Ag99Grad said:

I want the best guys playing on one tour. What I get tired of is painting one side as "good" and the other as "evil" which was said a few times in ep1. I don't think that's right and actually has me root for some LIV guys when they play in majors, and I was never a huge fan of many of them except Brooks.

Never really had an issue with Rory. I think he was used by the Tour and if I was him would never go out of my way to help them with PR again.
We had the best guys playing on one tour . . .

I can understand thinking the rhetoric got a little out of hand. But it was just that. And as others are quick to point out, the Tour couldn't compete with the Saudis monetarily so they used the ammo they had to try and keep their guys (kinda like how Norman told guys they were going to get points when he knew that wasn't true to get guys to jump).

And it seems odd that you're bothered more by Rory's barbs than LIV fracturing professional golf if your main goal is everyone playing on one tour.
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Right, if your goal is to have all the guys playing on one tour, then you should hate Norman, Liv, the Saudis, and to a lesser extent the players who went over there. We had that prior to LIV.

I've never understood the Liv arguments.
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Well best guys were on one tour but they only all played together 4-5 times a year. The rest are a bunch of snooze fest tournaments. At least LIV has sparked some changes getting top players together more than that with the designated events. I'm not saying they deserve a medal though. I love the idea of a world tour and hope that's the eventual result of all this.

The rhetoric is dumb and serves no purpose. Especially calling them evil, bad, etc. Greedy, sure. No problem there.
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98Ag99Grad said:

Well best guys were on one tour but they only all played together 4-5 times a year. The rest are a bunch of snooze fest tournaments. At least LIV has sparked some changes getting top players together more than that with the designated events. I'm not saying they deserve a medal though. I love the idea of a world tour and hope that's the eventual result of all this.

The rhetoric is dumb and serves no purpose. Especially calling them evil, bad, etc. Greedy, sure. No problem there.


I agree that the signature events are a nice addition. LIV does deserve some credit for that but only because it gave the elites enough leverage over the rank and file that outnumbered them to push it through.

I get not liking the rhetoric but I just can't get upset about it. I think about the history and legacy of the tour and all that Nicklaus, Palmer, Woods, Couples, etc. did to build it and now a foreign government that doesn't really have any interest in the sport and just wants a means to diversify its portfolio, tries to spend them out of existence. I'm not losing any sleep over them being called names. YMMV.
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Rhetoric on both sides is/was dumb.

DJ saying the pga players shouldn't be entitled to any money because the LIV guys were the ones who took the risk was just as dumb or dumber than people calling them evil….

Not sure how taking a guaranteed 9 figure contract is a risk.

If the LIV guys believed what they were saying they should embrace all pga players getting guaranteed salaries post merger.
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JCA1 said:

snowaggie said:

Keeper of The Spirits said:

Rory is like Buzz. A self righteous turd who is only interested in padding his own pocket book at the expense of others
I'm not anti- nor pro-Rory, but it's kinda a stretch to accuse him of only wanting to pad his own pocket when he didn't go to LIV, right?
Yeah. That argument makes literally no sense. Rory could have easily pocketed $200-300 million to make the move. He's hurt his pocketbook, his career (by spending so much time dealing with this rather than playing golf), and his reputation (by being a lightening rod) for no really no gain at all, other than him doing what he believes is the right thing to do.

Rory seems to believe in the format that has largely be in place for professional golf for a century or so, as well as values the history. His position is really no different than a ton of other guys (Tiger, Couples, JT, DLIII, Rickie, etc.) but he has been the most vocal/out front. Heck, even the guys that went to LIV have a hard time making the case that their format is better. They pretty much just admit they did it for the money. Regardless of where you come down, it's weird to characterize the guys that took a bunch of money, without any real concern for what this means for golf, are the good guys and the guy that turns down the money for his principles is the selfish *****.
Rory got paid by the PGA while screwing everyone else, he was out there trying to convince the players to pass up life changing money, whil the PGA funneled cash to him by naming him specifically as a player the PGA sponsors had to use

Also his laugh and he's a lil *****
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Cite for literally any of that? And he got paid $200 million plus by the tour? Because anything less makes your argument fall apart.

I await your sources. YouI sound like you know what you're talking about and none of this is a fever dream so I await your response.
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And I'll also add, screwed who? Fellow elites? Rank and file? Because LIV wants to put the rank and file out of business and reduce pro golf to about 50 guys. You feel bad for the guys who now have to get a regular job if LIV wins out while you're complaining who Rory supposedly left out?
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I will never fault any man for taking life/generational changing money for himself and his family in sports no matter the circumstance.
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71 jock said:

I will never fault any man for taking life/generational changing money for himself and his family in sports no matter the circumstance.


The discussion is about the framework of professional golf, not any individual decision. You can understand an individual's decision under the circumstances yet still dislike the circumstances. For instance, say A&M were competing for a national title and, in response, tu alum came up with enough money to get one of our star players (let's say the QB) to quit in the middle of the season. I doubt you would just say "hey, can't be mad about a guy doing what's best for his family". I suspect you would have an issue with the landscape of college football.
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JCA1 said:

71 jock said:

I will never fault any man for taking life/generational changing money for himself and his family in sports no matter the circumstance.


The discussion is about the framework of professional golf, not any individual decision. You can understand an individual's decision under the circumstances yet still dislike the circumstances. For instance, say A&M were competing for a national title and, in response, tu alum came up with enough money to get one of our star players (let's say the QB) to quit in the middle of the season. I doubt you would just say "hey, can't be mad about a guy doing what's best for his family". I suspect you would have an issue with the landscape of college football.
id say we didn't offer enough for him to stay.
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71 jock said:

JCA1 said:

71 jock said:

I will never fault any man for taking life/generational changing money for himself and his family in sports no matter the circumstance.


The discussion is about the framework of professional golf, not any individual decision. You can understand an individual's decision under the circumstances yet still dislike the circumstances. For instance, say A&M were competing for a national title and, in response, tu alum came up with enough money to get one of our star players (let's say the QB) to quit in the middle of the season. I doubt you would just say "hey, can't be mad about a guy doing what's best for his family". I suspect you would have an issue with the landscape of college football.
id say we didn't offer enough for him to stay.


Sure. But is that the sports world you want? Just the highest bidder wins everything. No rules. Should every player be able to break their contract after every season if it's in their financial interest? If not, why not? I mean, everyone gets that money ultimately rules the day most of the time. You're not saying anything new. The question is if it's a good thing. So, do you want to comment on the actual question?
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I'm fine with the circumstances yes. Does that answer your question? This is the world we live in now and I am all for individuals having the power to make their own decisions. Golf will survive no matter what.
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