2013 NCAA Golf Tournament

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WILDMAN95
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It was Dunlap, who was last to finish and sank the 35-foot putt to save par. They didn't assess the penalty (or at least update the scoreboard) until about half an hour after he sank the putt.
concac
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Texas A&M has fallen back into a playoff after its last player, Tyler Dunlap, received a one-shot penalty for slow play after his round, which dropped the team to 2 over. UCF's Greg Eason was also penalized, while Arizona State did not receive a penalty.
KC Aggie
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Dunlap and UCF player penalized for slow play. ASU player in group wasn't.
concac
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Dunlap was the hero and the goat.
Bondag
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What is worse is we were in the clubhouse getting ready for tomorrow and everyone else knew they were playing. That is not a way to play golf.
concac
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Everybody on here always gripe about slow play.

We got what we deserved.
aginlakeway
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Texas A&M’s Tyler Dunlap was issued a slow-play penalty in the third and final round of stroke-play qualifying Thursday at the NCAA men’s Championship.

That added stroke – assessed after much deliberation in the clubhouse at Capital City Club – dropped the Aggies from fifth place into a four-way tie for eighth at 2-over 842, along with Arizona State, UNLV and New Mexico. The top eight teams after Thursday’s play advanced to the match-play portion of the championship.

The four-team playoff, scheduled for late Thursday, was a shotgun start with one team member per hole, stretched out over five holes. The three teams with the low four scores advance.

Officials singled out Dunlap’s group – he was paired with UCF’s Greg Eason and Arizona State’s Jon Rahm – because they missed pace-of-play checkpoints on both Nos. 18 and 9 (they started on 10 tee).

Rahm was not assessed a penalty, keeping Arizona State in a tie for eighth, but Dunlap and Eason were deemed to have not made a sufficient effort to catch up.
KC Aggie
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Trying to get answers from Golfweek writer via twitter.
KC Aggie
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NCAA screwed up
Tuco Salamanca
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Everybody on here always gripe about slow play.

We got what we deserved.


No we didn't.. The rule is hardly EVER enforced. And that certainly was not the situation to start using enforcing it.

It was chicken ****. That's what it was.

[This message has been edited by Stones (edited 5/30/2013 7:31p).]
cgh1999
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Why would asu not get penalized?!
WILDMAN95
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BAS is starting to kick in. Luckily, I get to drink some maroon koolaid at Coach's night tomorrow night to shoo it away.
RAM 12
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nvm im an idiot

[This message has been edited by RAM 12 (edited 5/30/2013 7:33p).]
Harry Stone
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Complete bull**** and there is nothing they can do. **** college golf.
aginlakeway
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No RAM.

If ASU was penalized too, there would not have been a playoff. ASU would have finished 1 shot out of the playoff, and we would have been in the top 8.
Goose06
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Unreal that they would penalize Dunlap and ucf player but not Rohm from Asu
WILDMAN95
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RAM, if ASU was penalized they wouldn't have been at +2 and there wouldn't have been a playoff.
concac
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No we didn't.. The rule is hardly EVER enforced. And that certainly was not the situation so start using enforcing it.

It was chicken ****. That's what it was.


There are numerous threads complaining about slow play in golf. Not specifically this tourney but in general.

Slow play is slow play. I don't care the circumstance. If Dunlap was warned after the turn that he was playing slow, then he deserved that one-shot penalty.
Goose06
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How common is it for 2 in a group to get a slow play penalty and 1 to get a pass??
BreNayPop
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Asu gets a pass but we get penalized?
Tuco Salamanca
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It's my understanding that if you penalize one player from the group, you have to penalize all of them.

I guess I was wrong.

I know that's how it is in high school golf
El Chupacabra
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Shocking. No problem with slow play penalties, but you sure as **** better assess them properly and and consistently.
BreNayPop
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No problem with the penalty but should be assessed ubiquitously. Hard time believing you could assess 2 members of a group but not the third.
HouAggie
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It's rarely everyone's fault when a group is slow. Why should they penalize the whole group?
HouAggie
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The ASU kid's game probably already suffered from being paired with the slow pokes. He shouldn't be penalized on top of that.
JJxvi
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Yeah, frankly they should have subtracted the penalty strokes from his score!
dcaggie04
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nm

[This message has been edited by dcaggie04 (edited 5/30/2013 8:00p).]
BryanAggie2013
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12thMan2012
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Said it when Guan was penalized at Masters.
I hate the enforcement of slow play penalties. Seems so random and in the hands of whatever rules official is in your area. I love golf because the rules are enforceable by the players, we don't have referees or officials who make decisions. Pace of play rules don't match that sentiment. They are impossible to enforce consistently.

I absolutely hate slow play. But I absolutely hate the pace of play rules as they are right now.
pkp08
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In the NCAA tournament players basically start on the clock and are not given "warnings" per se.

It isn't treated like a normal stroke play where they warn a player then put the group on the clock. It is just expected that they keep up the pace of play from the start. Not the first penalty assessed this tournament.

That's at least how I understood it. I imagine JT was with him and he and the player should have been more aware of his pace.

Way too bad it worked out this way but still a great back 9 and tournament by the Ags.
07fta07
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No we didn't.. The rule is hardly EVER enforced. And that certainly was not the situation to start using enforcing it.

Someone got hit w it day 1. It sucks, but he got warned and kept being slow. The answer...penalty. We had a chance to not blow it in the playoff, but we blew it
caseyab
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You can't penalize the group for missing the slow play marks unless you penalize all the players in the group. I am sure that the fact the penalty would have knocked ASU out and their coach is Phil Mickelson's brother was not a factor in their decision, right?
coloradoag69
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What a devastating turn of events. To fight back from four down with 5 holes left, then think you've secured a place, receive an unusual penalty not evenly distribute, and then to lose the play-off! It is tough being an Ag!

By the way, has anyone got a clue why it was so much harder to play this afternoon than this morning? I'm not sure it ended up this way, but at one point, eight of the ten lowest rounds were turned in by the morning groups. And the way those groups were started was from last to first. So you would have expected the afternoon groups to have been better, all other things being equal.

I was actually surprised that they had that starting order. At least in the more recent past, they started those who might be involved in a playoff first. So it would have been 7,8,9 then 4,5,6, then 10,11,12, and so forth. The logic is that if there is a playoff needed, you can get it started while there is plenty of light and time to complete it today.

It feels like it just wasn't to be, doesn't it?
DannyDuberstein
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I'd want to hear more about the ASU player's pace before deciding if we got screwed. But the posters that mentioned it only takes 1-2 guys to slow a group are right. Penalizing an entire group seems screwy.
07fta07
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It's a tough rule to enforce but I read their pace of play was to be 5 hours. 5 ******* hours. You should be shot for not making 5 hours in a 3some, not docked a stroke. The UCLA penalty on day 2 was the result of a 5:34 round. Holy ****!
 
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